As White Phantom noted, yes, that is EXACTLY who and what Steph is. She wants the boob job. It makes her happy. So in return, she goes the extra steps to make you happy. This is what Steph is. It may not be who you want her to be, but I can't help you with that.Umm, yeah so that's why you go with the bimbo/plastic option because that's who and what Steph is? Really great logic there...
Yeah, I'm sure you were thinking "how happy it makes her" when you were raping her arse, but whatever.
I know it isn't directed at me, but yes, it's a dead end.
I don't agree, Vanessa had it worse at first, but she was left with a daughter to care and love, she had something positive, she didn't have to endure years of psychological abuse (physical too? not sure) without anything to care and love with pretty much only negatives.
Just to point out, at no point can you "rape" Steph in any way. She says way earlier on that anal hurts her a lot and makes her cry, she encourages you in regular sex to be rough with her, and she then consents to you having anal with her. She's not stupid, she's very aware of how it is going to end. Steph IS Masochistic, I don't know how you think she isn't.
Yes. Like I said, I'm not against kink with Steph, just that particular scene because it's not consensual. Unfortunately if you don't do that, the kink path gets closed down completely. So that just leaves me with the vanilla option by default. If indeed you are correct, then that means a complete waste of a potential LI for me, all because I'm not prepared to rape her arse.
In what way is it not consensual? The MC literally says "Tell me to stop and I will" and Steph remains silent, and responds by thrusting her arse back and rubbing herself? How is that a non-consensual scene? It is rough, but there is absolutely no "rape" there...
I guess we have a difference of opinion there. She does tell you to stop if you go gentle at it (not masochistic at all btw). Also, the MC promised he would be gentle with her when he first suggested anal, not so? Isn't that why she agreed? So this can confuse people, yes? If she told the MC straight up to be rough (like with the earlier choke scene) that would've been different. And by "rape" I meant a body part, not the person obviously.
She doesn't tell you to stop at all if you go roughly, I wrote the scene and explicitly at no point does she withdraw her consent, tell you to stop, or say no, and on Day 11 she will ask you to have sex with her anally in the same way, hardly the way a rape victim would act? This is on top of the fact Steph isn't stupid, and when she has been encouraging you to be rough with her and then agrees to anal, she is very aware this will likely end up happening roughly, and she goes ahead with it. So whilst it is rough, it definitely might not be to too many people's tastes and you might not like it, or want to do it, it isn't a "rape scene" as you're perpetuating.
Thanks for clearing that up.She doesn't tell you to stop at all if you go roughly, I wrote the scene and explicitly at no point does she withdraw her consent, tell you to stop, or say no, and on Day 11 she will ask you to have sex with her anally in the same way, hardly the way a rape victim would act? This is on top of the fact Steph isn't stupid, and when she has been encouraging you to be rough with her and then agrees to anal, she is very aware this will likely end up happening roughly, and she goes ahead with it. So whilst it is rough, it definitely might not be to too many people's tastes and you might not like it, or want to do it, it isn't a "rape scene" as you're perpetuating.
And Steph is a masochist. I made her character!
Anyway, as I said, you can have a vanilla relationship with her if you want to, but you will bore her sexually and as result, you'll have significantly fewer scenes with her than somebody who engages with her fetishes and excites her.
This is such a terrible sentence, Jesus Christ.
I actually was thinking it makes her happy, since she is asked if you should stop and does not say to do so. And, after the scene, she is actually pretty happy about how it went. I, on the other hand, wasn't all that happy about Steph's nature by that point and shortly after abandoned that path. (This is how it's supposed to work, by the way - I didn't really care for Steph's character, what she does and doesn't like or want, or how MC acts around her, so I chose another LI.)
That's disappointing to read. I like Steph, the "wasn't ass raped, non fake tits, non slave" version but if that isn't going to go anywhere I don't know where to go in terms of love interest. Vanessa is boring, Ellie is not of interest to me, Jenna is a weird obsessive ex-girlfriend who should stay an ex, everyone is just a cheap fuck or the client (no thanks), so I guess there's no slightly kinky but sweet love interest in this game?
Yeah, I feel it's a bit of a dick move to break up with her at that point though (since I had no intention of hurting her emotionally or anally
, so the only option then is to start from scratch and pick another girl. It's a shame it has to be "all or nothing" with Steph and no scope for some middle ground. The vanilla path is always going to feel half-assed now that the dev has officially confirmed her masochistic nature. I'd rather have her tell me straight up it's not working than faking it on vanilla.
Yep, don't feel like there's any point to make a vanilla option for Steph. The people who stay with her are going to embrace her fake boob and masochistic side. Those who want vanilla are probably already on the Vanessa path. Steph should just tell the MC he isn't enough for her.Yeah, I feel it's a bit of a dick move to break up with her at that point though (since I had no intention of hurting her emotionally or anally
