Midge

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River's love must be ≥40. Then you can ask them at the soup kitchen. It takes 20k.
Thanks, it's hard to gauge without the cheatmenu(thanks new update) i'll just keep bugging River then till i get it.
 

Detective Cancer

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Man.. a game this grindy gating content bonuses behind anti-cheats.
Ugh, I'm just gonna keep playing my current save it's not worth the trouble, especially with how incredibly bad the early-game is.
 
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Squidbit

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Man.. a game this grindy gating content bonuses behind anti-cheats.
Ugh, I'm just gonna keep playing my current save it's not worth the trouble, especially with how incredibly bad the early-game is.
Unless I'm mistaken, the achievements just mean you can make your starting character a little better. Why would you care about this at all if you're using cheats anyway?
 

Detective Cancer

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Unless I'm mistaken, the achievements just mean you can make your starting character a little better. Why would you care about this at all if you're using cheats anyway?
I had cheats active in case a bug happened I could undo it or get out of the situation by using the Confirm button on the cheat menu because it refreshes the current screen, I've had this save file for a long time.
Besides that the game's incredibly grindy, trying to get your stats up to unlock new actions takes a long time, especially when you're pushing for NPC romance to get their events going, like Kylar, River and Robin. It has the same problem a lot of porn games have where they go way too hard on you doing repetitive tasks to get a single new event to happen. The cheats aren't all-encompassing anyway, a lot of things you still have to push manually and it takes a long time.
Just seems weird to me that they'd lock that away.
You are right though it doesn't affect me that much, I just had to comment on it.
There's zero chance of me restarting at this point regardless, there's very little replayability value in this game due to the way it's structured with events and again grinding character and NPC stats.
 
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Rexzon

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Honestly, I can't help but agree on the game being way too grindy at this point to justify starting a new game outside of softcore with cheats disabled just to get bonuses for making a new character. My main file was one with several months and updates worth of progress with cheats enabled only to get out of broken events safely and prevent myself from getting soft-locked at points. Making a new character just to get benefits on making another new character after that with the possibility of certain benefits being locked permanently if gone about the wrong way (if I read the changelog right)? That's a huge "No Thanks" from me.
 

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The bonuses aren't even a big deal, as far as I can tell, it's just random bonus starting clothes. If you're anything like me it's useless because I like to have my outfits matching. Maybe there'll be more rewards in the future. Might help if you get stripped day one or something while swimming if you manage to rng a bonus swimsuit, but otherwise, meh. Just gives you some stuff to aim for.

I agree on the game taking a while to unlock crap. I don't feel like there's really enough content to make it worth playing that long atm. I still usually don't stick with a save file for more than 2 months or so. You can be pretty set on money/stats in like 2 weeks and then what do you do? All the later content seems to be romancing peeps but I'm not super interested in that.

For me this is kinda a survival game (I often restart if I'm raped...oral doesn't count lol) but there aren't many threats after a week or two. I'm not really sure what the dev is aiming for with the game play style. It's like at first you have to do everything you can do avoid being gang raped over and over again, and pay off the head bitch. By a week or two neither of those are really issues though, you can avoid being raped by keeping them away with hands/feet/thighs/butt pretty quickly, and money is pretty easy with thieving, dancing, and diving (Diving is still broken, I try to avoid using it if I want a challenge lol).

I'm not a fan of locking a lot of the "normal" money making behind relationships with certain people like working at the cafe. I guess there's still the bartender job. Maybe I'll try that this playthrough.

I dunno, where's the threat/challenge/interest for people after that point? I've tried kinda roleplaying certain game play types like only making money in certain ways or something, but there's not a lot of content outside trying to have consensual sexin time with everybody. Maybe just need to take a break and wait for more updates lol.
 
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eosar

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Loaded up a .8.3 save and my char can't use their hands in combat. Anyone happens to know the reason?
Don't wanna restart right now as it's very late in game. won both contests, sam's redecorating, going trick'n'treating in a couple of days... Ugh.

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Off-side concern. If you play a male character, if the penis is too big, NPCs with vaginas will have a harder time with penetration. Is the opposite the same or the female PC's twat fits all sizes?
 
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Vrelnir

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Pubic hair when?
A contributor added parts of it this update, though it isn't finished.

As Midge says, you can get pubic hair of a sort already via the wolf transformation.
The bonuses aren't even a big deal, as far as I can tell, it's just random bonus starting clothes. If you're anything like me it's useless because I like to have my outfits matching. Maybe there'll be more rewards in the future. Might help if you get stripped day one or something while swimming if you manage to rng a bonus swimsuit, but otherwise, meh. Just gives you some stuff to aim for.

I agree on the game taking a while to unlock crap. I don't feel like there's really enough content to make it worth playing that long atm. I still usually don't stick with a save file for more than 2 months or so. You can be pretty set on money/stats in like 2 weeks and then what do you do? All the later content seems to be romancing peeps but I'm not super interested in that.

For me this is kinda a survival game (I often restart if I'm raped...oral doesn't count lol) but there aren't many threats after a week or two. I'm not really sure what the dev is aiming for with the game play style. It's like at first you have to do everything you can do avoid being gang raped over and over again, and pay off the head bitch. By a week or two neither of those are really issues though, you can avoid being raped by keeping them away with hands/feet/thighs/butt pretty quickly, and money is pretty easy with thieving, dancing, and diving (Diving is still broken, I try to avoid using it if I want a challenge lol).

I'm not a fan of locking a lot of the "normal" money making behind relationships with certain people like working at the cafe. I guess there's still the bartender job. Maybe I'll try that this playthrough.

I dunno, where's the threat/challenge/interest for people after that point? I've tried kinda roleplaying certain game play types like only making money in certain ways or something, but there's not a lot of content outside trying to have consensual sexin time with everybody. Maybe just need to take a break and wait for more updates lol.
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree the game becomes less interesting once your character is sufficiently developed. Once you can beat one rapist reliably, you can beat them all. There's no way to use your character's skill to take your ambitions up a notch. Improvements are planned.
Loaded up a .8.3 save and my char can't use their hands in combat. Anyone happens to know the reason?
Don't wanna restart right now as it's very late in game. won both contests, sam's redecorating, going trick'n'treating in a couple of days... Ugh.

Edit:
Off-side concern. If you play a male character, if the penis is too big, NPCs with vaginas will have a harder time with penetration. Is the opposite the same or the female PC's twat fits all sizes?
Are you hands not working in all encounters, or just some?

Female PC's vaginas can fit all penis sizes, though bigger ones might cause pain.
 

eosar

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Are you hands not working in all encounters, or just some?

Female PC's vaginas can fit all penis sizes, though bigger ones might cause pain.
Uhhhhh... Any first random combat scene at least. Didn't check past it, so i can't say. I'll try more than one and let you know after.

And would you consider changing it so that bigger sizes won't fit smaller holes? Possibly optional?
 
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Honestly, I can't help but agree on the game being way too grindy at this point to justify starting a new game outside of softcore with cheats disabled just to get bonuses for making a new character. My main file was one with several months and updates worth of progress with cheats enabled only to get out of broken events safely and prevent myself from getting soft-locked at points. Making a new character just to get benefits on making another new character after that with the possibility of certain benefits being locked permanently if gone about the wrong way (if I read the changelog right)? That's a huge "No Thanks" from me.
Games still in early development at this point, so there are still many things that could drastically change, including effects that could be applied to new characters to change the way u play like the recent background that was added.

Part of the reason why I worked on the feats was to reduce the grind early on, its limited as it is at the moment but new things could easily be added to it.

Unless I'm mistaken, the achievements just mean you can make your starting character a little better. Why would you care about this at all if you're using cheats anyway?
That and something else, tho as u said, everything the feats can do, the cheats can do, its more for those that are looking for a challenge and enjoy doing the more serious runs without cheats. Bugs themselves arnt too big of a problem unless its right after the initial update generally, and even then, saving the game can help u avoid problems.
 

Midge

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The bonuses aren't even a big deal, as far as I can tell, it's just random bonus starting clothes. If you're anything like me it's useless because I like to have my outfits matching. Maybe there'll be more rewards in the future. Might help if you get stripped day one or something while swimming if you manage to rng a bonus swimsuit, but otherwise, meh. Just gives you some stuff to aim for.

I agree on the game taking a while to unlock crap. I don't feel like there's really enough content to make it worth playing that long atm. I still usually don't stick with a save file for more than 2 months or so. You can be pretty set on money/stats in like 2 weeks and then what do you do? All the later content seems to be romancing peeps but I'm not super interested in that.

For me this is kinda a survival game (I often restart if I'm raped...oral doesn't count lol) but there aren't many threats after a week or two. I'm not really sure what the dev is aiming for with the game play style. It's like at first you have to do everything you can do avoid being gang raped over and over again, and pay off the head bitch. By a week or two neither of those are really issues though, you can avoid being raped by keeping them away with hands/feet/thighs/butt pretty quickly, and money is pretty easy with thieving, dancing, and diving (Diving is still broken, I try to avoid using it if I want a challenge lol).

I'm not a fan of locking a lot of the "normal" money making behind relationships with certain people like working at the cafe. I guess there's still the bartender job. Maybe I'll try that this playthrough.

I dunno, where's the threat/challenge/interest for people after that point? I've tried kinda roleplaying certain game play types like only making money in certain ways or something, but there's not a lot of content outside trying to have consensual sexin time with everybody. Maybe just need to take a break and wait for more updates lol.
It seems there are 11 starting effects you can choose from with the feats not just rando cloathes(i've got extra money as well), you just need to unlock them by getting some of the speciffic Achievos first(it lists the ones you need in the starting boost tab at CG). But i'm going to try to unlock all the Achevos before i restart and hope my saves make it to the next update.

I also usually play untill i find all the new content now or untill just after the Halloween event as it's the last of the big in-game events, but you should try to make it to
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just once.

You say there arn't many threats but then also say you restart after being sexed, are you just looking for more harder opponents to assault you at random(like Morgan and Edan) because their are some hard fights in there you just have to look for them. Oh and the 3 night dogs seem to be hounding me more often lately.

I don't mind having to smoose the boss to get a better paying job/raise in this.

And yeah after finding the new stuff and following the plot threads i like you kind of have to make your own fun, it is a sandbox after all.
 

Midge

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I had cheats active in case a bug happened I could undo it or get out of the situation by using the Confirm button on the cheat menu because it refreshes the current screen, I've had this save file for a long time.
Besides that the game's incredibly grindy, trying to get your stats up to unlock new actions takes a long time, especially when you're pushing for NPC romance to get their events going, like Kylar, River and Robin. It has the same problem a lot of porn games have where they go way too hard on you doing repetitive tasks to get a single new event to happen. The cheats aren't all-encompassing anyway, a lot of things you still have to push manually and it takes a long time.
Just seems weird to me that they'd lock that away.
You are right though it doesn't affect me that much, I just had to comment on it.
There's zero chance of me restarting at this point regardless, there's very little replayability value in this game due to the way it's structured with events and again grinding character and NPC stats.
I find the most grindy to be Seduction(2.5% stat increase with only a few ways to get it ie The Pub, Robins stall and a handful of rando events) and Skullduggery beyond C? just after robbing mansions as there is no consistant way to boost it after that (you have to steal from Johns you have combat with). And the reason i find these grindy at these points is that there arn't enought events that take place during getting these to offset the bordem/grindy feel that follows it.
Like at school you get all the school events so for me that balances that grind, and with early skulldug you get all the sweet crime events and so on.
But yeah with no "main narrative" to drive you forward(i don't count "pay bailey" as its realy just a way to get you out there but not to push you forward) it can get real repetitive real quick, but i think the game takes good measures to hide this with the many threads to find and different ways to get there. But i think thats a problem with Sandbox games as a whole not just this one.
 
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1tomadeira

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Vrel post almost daily on the blogspot page so if you have anything good or relevent you can always post there.
I know and I read it, I just like to see his insights from time to time. Of course I also don't want him to spend his life here.

I lurk here a lot and read everything, but I'll try to chime in more often.
Don't mind it, I simply like your rants and opinions from time to time. Keep up the good work :)

still no pregnancy ?
Unfortunely not. The MC is infertile. She can't have kids.
 
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