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There's Q&A hidden somewhere on Discord.
It says something alike "no killing, no blood, no excess violence".
whoring out implied under age orphans into sexual servitude to a corrupt orphanage owner not bad,
having said victim of human trafficking go through insane amounts trauma to avoid getting pimped out by said brothel owner not bad.
heaven forbid though if you want a death ending, or the ability to start gang wars, or atleast follow british tradition of macheting people into bits on the streets, TOO MUCH.
its like come on, just because you don't kill anyone or get to kill anyone doesn't make taken out of context the game premise bettter by default, and its by own its dev said DOL is a dark life sandbox, with holding the ability to kill or be killed in favor of other degenerate kinks doesn't mean your still not a degenerate. the whole game implies our pc is underage.
this injustice needs to be solved by guro and ryona fans rising up, if I have to deal with the fact the dev thinks human trafficking underage orphans is sexy, the out of place brit bong references, I should be given atleast the ability to hack my opponents to bits with a machete in true brit bong fashion. the game can reasonably do with out the devs clear under age fetish, but I tolerate that because I don't read the bailey bits anyway, and the game play makes up for it.
 
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whoring out implied under age orphans into sexual servitude to a corrupt orphanage owner not bad,
having said victim of human trafficking go through insane amounts trauma to avoid getting pimped out by said brothel owner not bad.
heaven forbid though if you want a death ending, or the ability to start gang wars, or atleast follow british tradition of macheting people into bits on the streets, TOO MUCH.
its like come on, just because you don't kill anyone or get to kill anyone doesn't make taken out of context the game premise bettter by default, and its by own its dev said DOL is a dark life sandbox, with holding the ability to kill or be killed in favor of other degenerate kinks doesn't mean your still not a degenerate. the whole game implies our pc is underage.
this injustice needs to be solved by guro and ryona fans rising up, if I have to deal with the fact the dev thinks human trafficking underage orphans is sexy, the out of place brit bong references, I should be given atleast the ability to hack my opponents to bits with a machete in true brit bong fashion. the game can reasonably do with out the devs clear under age fetish, but I tolerate that because I don't read the bailey bits anyway, and the game play makes up for it.
who says what is in isn't degenerate
this is still porn game, and not everyone wants death and gore in their porn
 

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whoring out implied under age orphans into sexual servitude to a corrupt orphanage owner not bad,
having said victim of human trafficking go through insane amounts trauma to avoid getting pimped out by said brothel owner not bad.
heaven forbid though if you want a death ending, or the ability to start gang wars, or atleast follow british tradition of macheting people into bits on the streets, TOO MUCH.
its like come on, just because you don't kill anyone or get to kill anyone doesn't make taken out of context the game premise bettter by default, and its by own its dev said DOL is a dark life sandbox, with holding the ability to kill or be killed in favor of other degenerate kinks doesn't mean your still not a degenerate. the whole game implies our pc is underage.
this injustice needs to be solved by guro and ryona fans rising up, if I have to deal with the fact the dev thinks human trafficking underage orphans is sexy, the out of place brit bong references, I should be given atleast the ability to hack my opponents to bits with a machete in true brit bong fashion. the game can reasonably do with out the devs clear under age fetish, but I tolerate that because I don't read the bailey bits anyway, and the game play makes up for it.
My guy, guro isn't a main focus of this game and never will.
Ryona sure but gory stuff? Heck nah.
We will always be on the defensive, that's their vision for this game and believe me man, I tried my best to at least change it but they're doubling down on that.
 
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The difference there is that gore is a massive boner-killer for folks who don't have that fetish. This being a porn game, that's a problem.
we have animal fucking pissing and now soon impregnation, I don't think an optionable death mode with guro and ryona is that much to ask for, like give the option as a toggle. people who don't like guro can toggle it on or off problem solved.
 
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who says what is in isn't degenerate
this is still porn game, and not everyone wants death and gore in their porn
not everyone wants animal fucking pissing or impregnation and implied lolicon/shotacon content but ignore it anyway because the game mechanics allows you to forget those aspects and fetishes exist in game, and whats wrong with wanting a darker life sandbox?

I mean in real life if your in that dire straits you can choose to submit or join a gang, get in a rough crowd and be defiant. defiant in this game is really toothless because it depends on someone engaging in combat with you which 50 percent of fights are like this, what about the teens who aren't right due to circumstance who join gangs and peddle drugs and beat the shit out of people looking at them funny? maybe even shoot them if their on a rival gang? Whitney bullies you and its implied at some point she's a victim of circumstance as well. her mere existence as a bully to the pc, indicates to me there's room for the pc to be more active.

the point is it feels so one sided, yes some people if placed in dire straits would roll over and give up the fact the other option actually fucking rebelling and maybe adding ways to end opponents in a deadly manner makes the game limited in feeling.

its like the dev looked at one side of trauma and dealing with it and thought that is how every victim of trauma deals with trauma by taking the freeze option. when that isn't the case, some people become traumatized and turn around dish out more trauma to others.

if your running a sandbox game based on human misery its very important to give options for to player to deal with that misery, even if the other option is spreading it around. people have expressed wanting to be more dominant in certain interactions and while by default the game is a rape simulator and the dev said that he tried to emulate what a rape victim might feel in terms of game mechanics, he refuses to entertain the possibilities for alternative options. there fore I feel like his approach to it is shallow and fetishized, it can only really be balanced by adding the ability to instigate shit. other wise just stop saying your trying to emulate trauma in a way that is comparable to what might happen in real life.

simply call it a rape simulator and be done with it. It'd be a less of an issue if it wasn't a virtue signal by the dev to say "my game mechanics try to represent how a traumatized person might deal with the same situation." no full stop because I would be literally going to baileys office beating the shit out of bailey until they're a bloody pulp daily, selling drugs to school kids on oxford street and trying to undermine both the police and briar after getting stronk enough if you chose to represent trauma accurately.
 
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we have animal fucking pissing and now soon impregnation, I don't think an optionable death mode with guro and ryona is that much to ask for, like give the option as a toggle. people who don't like guro can toggle it on or off problem solved.
you could make such a mod if you wanted to, no one will stop you, but vrel will never add that to the main game because its his game and he doesn't want it
 
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you could make such a mod if you wanted to, no one will stop you, but vrel will never add that to the main game because its his game and he doesn't want it
in the process of making of drug dealer and financial overhaul mod also trying to make it more americanized but it won't be in completion until a month after preg update because even on preg test dev mode it's breaking everything.
 

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You are overthinking this, its not some kind of hypocricy or like major morality issue that is a reason for gore not coming here... its just a major mood killer for the vast majority of the people. People just don't wanna work on it. I got some weird niche fetishes too, but you need some self awarness, realize how niche of a thing this is. Wouldn't care if it was optional toggle, but I completely understand them just not wanting to include it. Life sims do not need to be 100% realistic, this shit is the reason why Accidental woman needed 50 000 patches to start resembling a game, realism alone is an absolute worst reason to include any game mechanic.
Back on topic though, does the pregnancy in dev branch go anywhere currently?
 
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we have animal fucking pissing and now soon impregnation, I don't think an optionable death mode with guro and ryona is that much to ask for, like give the option as a toggle. people who don't like guro can toggle it on or off problem solved.
There is one very mild, barely noticable, piss scene that was written by a guest writer, and animal fucking has been a central part of the game since the early days. Another problem with gore is that it would have to be integrated into the combat system. If you want to talk about toggling it on and off, it would involve breaking the combat system into two fully-functional mechanics--one with gore and another without. Considering that the combat system is integrated into nearly every other mechanic in the game, that would be a Pandora's Box. Dedicating the development time that would require to one fetish--one that didn't top every poll that Vrelnir has ever conducted--is a bad idea.
 

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The game is not really hard to mod if you want that kind of stuff. Even some abandoned stuff is still here to facilitate, like the bruise system is fully implemented since several versions but does nothing at the moment. I think it was planned to display the bruises on the PC but that must have been when Vrelnir drew that red line.

Also vaginal parasitic pregnancy was also added in the dev version, finally
 
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For anyone that compiled and played around with the dev build, is there a new way to do a rewind time cheat with the browser console? I used to use SugarCube.State.variables.time = 400 (or whenever) but now it's not working. No biggie, I just like to abuse it so I can take my time exploring.
 

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For anyone that compiled and played around with the dev build, is there a new way to do a rewind time cheat with the browser console? I used to use SugarCube.State.variables.time = 400 (or whenever) but now it's not working. No biggie, I just like to abuse it so I can take my time exploring.
Rewinding time was never a good idea. It could screw up things pretty bad.
 
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