Raf-Raf

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What kind of fullness to the game does introduction of mushroom foraging bring? Or getting cold in winter if wearing too little? Or additional option for tribadism? Or fishing? Will addition of mountain meadows and whortleberry picking give even more fullness? How did introduction of Friday tests improve your overall experience playing the game? Are you happier now? Immersed deeper?

There are too many little things that are arbitrary placed in the game, which have very little connection with everything and anything that's already there. The orphan goes to school, gets harassed or not, then goes to Brothel/Cafe/Temple/choose your adventure. If there is still time left in the day, they can hitchhike to the Farms in exchange for a blowjob or striptease, and then they can either take riding lessons or blow a bull or fuck a horse....

WHY???

Why would anyone fuck a horse after school?

To be precise, you can fuck an entire stud in an hour, doesn't make a difference. Your PCs genitalia can take it for some reason, but you will get tired when masturbating a lot and it takes much longer to masturbate than bring a horse to orgasm. But you won't find a single sex shop in this Town, so you still have to use your fingers when masturbating. And with all the debauchery going on, you can only masturbate in bathrooms or classroom or school library, that's how full and logically consistent the game is at the moment... Showers are there only to wash cum and slime off your PCs body, but you do not have to do that as no one really pays attention if you are squeaky clean or look like you've just returned from a shoot at GGG Productions. Your allure increases, yeah, but also your beauty and lewd fame influence the allure, so after 9pm you're appetizing enough, even if wearing unassuming garb with not a single drop of ejaculate on you.

Where are the motivations for such behaviours? Paying off your ridiculous caretaker? All it takes to appease Bailey is say you're sorry and then suck their nipple for a bit until they cum... Even when Bailey brings several thugs with them, that alone will do the trick. Just pay attention at English classes, apologize and lick. They will not attempt to go any further, even if your criminal record, whore, slut and deviant fames are through the roof. But hey, you can now look for honey in the deep Forest and indulge yourself in apiarism!
You seem to have forgotten that this game has the tag sandbox in it.
I'm not good at arguing etc etc etc so all I can say is,
You ain't the only one who plays this, there are others who like the new additions.
Don't like the stuff the dev added? Deal with it.
 

Orichan

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Imagine :
- Free download available on the dev's blog with support for android & ios
- a 40+ lines message every update to explain everything that is going on
- Answering people's message in multiple forums + his blog + discord
- a steady rate of 1 update / month

If every game out here had a serious person like you behind it..
 

madchef

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You seem to have forgotten that this game has the tag sandbox in it.
Oh yeah, that explains adding more pointless stuff then. When can we expect addition of shovels and buckets to truly immerse ourselves in this sandbox experience?

I'm not good at arguing etc etc etc so...
... so deal with it yourself, before resorting to 'deal-with-it' arguments.

From what I've noticed, you're a relative newcomer to this game. Keep on playing for another 6 months and if the upcoming updates will be keeping the same meandering sandboxy course, perhaps you'll start to get my point. There is a difference between a sandbox mode and a sandbox game, with the latter often being an excuse for an unfinished product.
 
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Kinky_One

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Let me remind you that the game is unfinished. I don't know if it even qualifies as an alpha. We are at 0.2, and only now, years in development, are we seeing talk about 0.3 coming up. And that's not a critique, the game has been updated very frequently, especially compared with other games on this site. It's just a way to point out that there is still a lot of work to be done. Maybe some things don't look like they have a purpose yet. I would argue that most do (the flowers update seemed random until you understand that the vending stand is both, 1. great to farm seduction, and 2. has a couple os hot scenes in it), but even if some don't i would say: give the game time. Let it run it's course, and we will see where we get.

Maybe try to take a break from the game, if the updates didn't interest you. Let a couple of updates pass and then come back to a lot of new stuff.
 

ToiletRider

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Nov 4, 2017
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Thank you Orichan and Kinky_One for addressing all the things I wanted to say in the initial response.
But madchef, if you're frustrated with the game and want to address the issues. Please, do it with more composure.
I still find your response to be a rant rather than criticism that can improve the game in the future.
 

Mrbeez

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Nov 6, 2020
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What kind of fullness to the game does introduction of mushroom foraging bring? Or getting cold in winter if wearing too little? Or additional option for tribadism? Or fishing? Will addition of mountain meadows and whortleberry picking give even more fullness? How did introduction of Friday tests improve your overall experience playing the game? Are you happier now? Immersed deeper?

There are too many little things that are arbitrary placed in the game, which have very little connection with everything and anything that's already there. The orphan goes to school, gets harassed or not, then goes to Brothel/Cafe/Temple/choose your adventure. If there is still time left in the day, they can hitchhike to the Farms in exchange for a blowjob or striptease, and then they can either take riding lessons or blow a bull or fuck a horse....

WHY???

Why would anyone fuck a horse after school?

To be precise, you can fuck an entire stud in an hour, doesn't make a difference. Your PCs genitalia can take it for some reason, but you will get tired when masturbating a lot and it takes much longer to masturbate than bring a horse to orgasm. But you won't find a single sex shop in this Town, so you still have to use your fingers when masturbating. And with all the debauchery going on, you can only masturbate in bathrooms or classroom or school library, that's how full and logically consistent the game is at the moment... Showers are there only to wash cum and slime off your PCs body, but you do not have to do that as no one really pays attention if you are squeaky clean or look like you've just returned from a shoot at GGG Productions. Your allure increases, yeah, but also your beauty and lewd fame influence the allure, so after 9pm you're appetizing enough, even if wearing unassuming garb with not a single drop of ejaculate on you.

Where are the motivations for such behaviours? Paying off your ridiculous caretaker? All it takes to appease Bailey is say you're sorry and then suck their nipple for a bit until they cum... Even when Bailey brings several thugs with them, that alone will do the trick. Just pay attention at English classes, apologize and lick. They will not attempt to go any further, even if your criminal record, whore, slut and deviant fames are through the roof. But hey, you can now look for honey in the deep Forest and indulge yourself in apiarism!
Calm down man
 

Dunnowho

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Dec 5, 2018
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How does encounters in the game work? I assume there is a hidden number that adds up until a certain value, and then an encounter happens. I noticed that no matter the path I take in town, I get into an encounter after the same amount of maps, when loading a save.

For example: Save game. Walk from school street to starfish street - encounter. Load game. Walk from school street to Nightingale street - encounter. Load game. Go park - encounter. Load game. Enter & exit manhole - no encounter.

Did this to prevent Control loss at high Lewdity stats.
 

Midge

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Oh yeah, that explains adding more pointless stuff then. When can we expect addition of shovels and buckets to truly immerse ourselves in this sandbox experience?



... so deal with it yourself, before resorting to 'deal-with-it' arguments.

From what I've noticed, you're a relative newcomer to this game. Keep on playing for another 6 months and if the upcoming updates will be keeping the same meandering sandboxy course, perhaps you'll start to get my point. There is a difference between a sandbox mode and a sandbox game, with the latter often being an excuse for an unfinished product.
The salt is strong with this one!
I can see where your coming from though as i'm still waiting on a decent police update as well as more school big class test events(like maths and science fairs) but we still have to wait through the Moors being updated and so on and so on.....
Yes less lewd stuff is being added to make the game more sand less box but the point is there was NEVER a point/end to this game to begin with, what it was changed a long time ago. What Vrel chooses to add is on him. Play it or don't. I rarly play this game anymore but still follow it's progress and skip to the things i wanna tryout(like wasp babies).
TL;DR Stuffs coming, chill.
 

ladguru

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How does encounters in the game work? I assume there is a hidden number that adds up until a certain value, and then an encounter happens. I noticed that no matter the path I take in town, I get into an encounter after the same amount of maps, when loading a save.

For example: Save game. Walk from school street to starfish street - encounter. Load game. Walk from school street to Nightingale street - encounter. Load game. Go park - encounter. Load game. Enter & exit manhole - no encounter.

Did this to prevent Control loss at high Lewdity stats.
Most events are random with certain checks. They are drawn from different pools depending on where you are.

The RNG-seed is saved to prevent trivial save scumming. So if you do exactly the same things again, the same events will happen.
Some locations share event pools. Like the main roads. So going left or right might trigger the same event.
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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Things that would truly bring this to a new level:
- herm/futa eneies/NPCs
- pregnancy
- more interaction between named NPCs, including naughty ones. (example: Why doesn't Whitney sexually bully others?)
 
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jayp420

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Found broken image bug during combat.
img/sex/doggy/active/hands/lacewarmers/right hand.png not found
img/sex/doggy/active/hands/lacewarmers/left hand.png not found
Playing v0.2.21.5 on chrome browser. I see the files in the folder but got the error info from development tools error report.
 

Vrelnir

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Thanks for your thoughts everyone.
If so, i'd suggest that it takes into account transformations and/or status. For example:

- cat transformation would mean being unable to hold back from nibbling on one raw
- dog transformation or wolf pack member/leader would have the PC intent on sharing the caught fish with other orphans or the wolf pack itself
- angel would insist on donating a portion to the temple or the poor or get morale and purity penalty
- fallen angel, succubus, incubus would deign the act of fishing beneath them and thus get a morale penalty or something + the option to tamper with it and sell it off for recovery + naughty points
- cow transformation would make one at peace while fishing, since they're used to sitting around and grazing
Thanks for the ideas. I'd like to give transformations more impact, and these sound cute.
I believe the game got to a point where a lot of people are playing it even more for the life sim aspects than for the lewd. And i can get that. Not gonna lie, i just love dressing up my PCs, doesn't even have to be lewd clothes. Many like to just role play with their favorite love interest. And many probably like the challenge of living a "normal" life and staying pure in such a lewd world. To those players, more life sim aspects are aways a bonus, and i completelly understand why.

That all being said... i do hope we eventually get to a more lewd-focus update. Don't get me wrong, even every life sim aspect brings with it a couple scenes, and those are great! But i think it would be nice to get something that isn't locked behind a curtain of normalcy. Like the exhibitionist event where you run down the map naked, i would love to get something like that again. That said, this is Vrel's game, and it's their choice what to focus on. And minor complains aside, i have been following this game for a couple years now and loving it since day 1.
I'm glad you've been enjoying it all this time.

There'll be more lewd-focused updates. I still need to add level 6 promiscuous and exhibitionist options.
Hello there so i'm new here and here are my suggestions (because i know everything ) .
If something that i'm mentioned in here is already in the game than i will like to be excused for my mistake.
so:
1 some kind of lewd piercing ( vagina penis nipples tongue + the transformations)
2 about that masturbation in the class room can we get it in town in the alley for example
3 about the animals and so on,how about the PC can buy or adopt or kidnap some of them and train and just for fun ( that includes parasites tentacles OBAMA and so on)
4 maybe Slums
5 some interactions between PC and some character that doesnt end inbeing a punching bag or Yandere. So basicly S&M stuff when you are the S or the M with some npc char or just npc
6 build a wallllllllll
7 about the fishing you can get attacked while doing it or fish with ur D idn
8 more shops or another town in the future ( cause im still waiting on that fat a*s to complete that Song and Fire sh*t)
9 more interactions with the police dillers and so on
10 that insect part maybe some more of it
11 i was going to suggest a new safe house but you are already working on it
12 Thanks for the content
13 Well i guess thats for now

Keep it up with the good work!!!!!!
You're welcome. I'll do my best!
1) Ear and nipple piercings weren't originally planned, but the idea grew on me. Not sure about other body parts.
2) I'd like to add masturbation to more locations. Masturbating with an audience should be an option as well.
3) Kidnapping/adopting animals isn't planned outside the fish tank critters, but I have some ideas.
4) Slums are on the maybe pile.
5) You can have a bdsm relationship of a sorts with Winter.
6) You won't build it high enough.
7) There'd need to be fishing events. Covering yourself in bait, tying a rope around your waist, and jumping in the sea isn't a safe activity.
8) I don't plan to include another town, but I might add other shops. The clothing shop is already a bit cluttered.
I too am waiting.
9) I plan to give the police more tools to deal with criminal PCs.
10) I have ideas for more insect content.
So the save menu shows a huge error in the new version for me!! Any idea what might be happening?
Thanks for the heads up. 0.2.21.3 fixed a rare error that could break the save menu, so update if you haven't already. Your save files should be safe, it's just a problem with the UI.
What is the most effective way to deal with damaged clothes ? I can't quite wrap my head around the two systems in place : the box and the chip.

As I understand the chip, it replaces clothes once they're destroyed if you got enough money to buy them again. Fair enough, except that "frayed" clothes get ignored by the "outfit" system which automatically equips clothes. Therefore, "frayed" clothes stay in my wardrobe for ever, unless I manually equip them, to bring them to the tailor and have them repaired one by one ?

As I understand the box, it takes everything in the wardrobe and then... I don't know? Why would it also take clothes that aren't damaged ? How long do I have to wait before I get them back ? How much will this cost me ? Instructions are sketchy at best.

All in all, I would prefer a single repair button on the wardrobe tied to a sewing skill learned at school maybe, or clothes repairing automatically over time, or just get rid of the clothing damage system altogether. Clothes could be torn during battle and what not, but would then be restored to pre-battle state after.

As it stands, the clothing system seems way too micro-heavy for my tastes. Please DO change my mind.
I agree the clothing system is too micro-heavy. It's proved difficult to present all the options in a smooth way.
On version 0.2.21.4, equipping "Belly dancer's bottoms" makes the PC image bug out. The error written is :

0.2.21.4 Error: <<img>>: error within widget contents (0.2.21.4 Error: <<lowerimg>>: error within widget contents (0.2.21.4 Error: <<baseClothingStrings>>: error within widget contents (0.2.21.4 Error: <<set>>: bad evaluation: State.variables.worn[State.variables.args[0]].colour.replace is not a function)))

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Thanks for letting me know.
Can someone spoil what will be in the next update pls

PS: bribe with a meme from one broken bot
I'm working on a new wild area for next version. There's a bad end scenario planned as well, but I might split that into a separate update.
Found broken image bug during combat.
img/sex/doggy/active/hands/lacewarmers/right hand.png not found
img/sex/doggy/active/hands/lacewarmers/left hand.png not found
Playing v0.2.21.5 on chrome browser. I see the files in the folder but got the error info from development tools error report.
Thanks for the heads up.
 
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