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RayBar

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Otherwise, you'd better hurry up and implement grooming gangs.
He probably can't depict minors plus everyone is already Rapemaxxing in DOL. I am more interested in knife fights , imagine someone walks up to you,calls you a 'scallywag' and now you have to duel them to death:PogChamp:
 

Sc0pdawg

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He probably can't depict minors plus everyone is already Rapemaxxing in DOL. I am more interested in knife fights , imagine someone walks up to you,calls you a 'scallywag' and now you have to duel them to death:PogChamp:
Insult swordfighting or GTFO.
 

Rumiel

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Okay, but so are hollywood movies with happy ends - responses to the detiorating state of the world. In the confines of the movie, things CAN be made right, there CAN be a happy ending.
I believe escapism is the word for this.
Escapism may be a thing but this game isn't it. Plus some of us like the hopeless crapsack world it is. The Hollywood urge for a happy ending is what screwed us over from a very good but bittersweet poignant ending to the newest Final Destination. They thought the OG end was "too sad" and so they did the fake out thing yet again.
So... yeah I rather like the dark scrambling to survive helplessness DoL gives us. If I want a decidedly happy feel I'll play something else.
 

Kingdom1999

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Aye. The game is, in part, a response to the deteriorating state of the world, and the UK in particular, so it's hard to avoid reminders. To forget would be to go mad.
It is funny when I introduced this game to afew friends who aren't British and they were boggled at the idea you could get in trouble for using pepper spray in self-defence and thought it surely would've been made up.
 

sparrow_rose

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So... yeah I rather like the dark scrambling to survive helplessness DoL gives us. If I want a decidedly happy feel I'll play something else.
And I do play something else when I want that. DoL is for one kind of mood, if I'm looking for wholesome joy I'll pick up Our Life Beginnings & Always or its sequel, Our Life Now & Forever. In my opinion, both are really effective eye bleach.
 

MRN64

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Ive always hated how people cant grasp the idea that a bittersweet or even dark ending cant be good in its own right. Everything has to have some kind of shitty deus ex machina to swoop in and save everyone or have absolutely stupid plot armor or something and its just really annoying. Sometimes a piece of media makes you feel like shit after finishing it and that is the point of some media which makes it entertaining in its own right. Trying to white wash everything into some kind of happily ever after cop out ending is just silly. Such a large portion of media already has some lame cop out at the end that you can basically assume that whatever you are reading watching or playing is going to have one which just means that 80% of the time you can just assume thats how its going to end and be right. I would rather have the option of a bad ending or at least a bitter one open instead of just watching something trying to guess what kind of dumb bullshit they are going to pull out of their ass to make a happy end.
 

sparrow_rose

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Ive always hated how people cant grasp the idea that a bittersweet or even dark ending cant be good in its own right. Everything has to have some kind of shitty deus ex machina to swoop in and save everyone or have absolutely stupid plot armor or something and its just really annoying. Sometimes a piece of media makes you feel like shit after finishing it and that is the point of some media which makes it entertaining in its own right. Trying to white wash everything into some kind of happily ever after cop out ending is just silly. Such a large portion of media already has some lame cop out at the end that you can basically assume that whatever you are reading watching or playing is going to have one which just means that 80% of the time you can just assume thats how its going to end and be right. I would rather have the option of a bad ending or at least a bitter one open instead of just watching something trying to guess what kind of dumb bullshit they are going to pull out of their ass to make a happy end.
I strongly agree. I remember reading a story a few months ago that was good up until the ending, then wrote a long post with my ideas for fixing said ending. I explicitly remember saying that I like GOOD endings, and good doesn't always equal happy. That the author actually introduced a plot hole just for their have a cake and eat it too ending. Can't stand that stuff. I mean, I love happy endings, but not at the cost of the story's quality. Some creators understand that. I had no complaints about how Killing Stalking was handled, and I currently have no complaints about DoL.
 
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boon4791

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Some of us like hot and spicy curry, some like sweet and sour pork and others like french fries and burgers and even some like bitter food...
If you hate tea, grab some colas or :coffee:
Be nice, please dont go into a pizza shop and order ramen, then tell the customers who are eating there that the pizza here taste like :poop:
I give my nephews disney cartoons for happy endings... but kids these days, they their taste are different...sigh...
DOL is okay, but it does take me some time to get used to it... and have fun.
 
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rezaf

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You guys disregarded my point that the player already produces an 'happy ending' of sorts, and it already has many of the grimdark qualities you desire. I mean, how is it easy to pay off Bailey? By prostituting yourself. Selling your body. Saying farewell to the innocent self and indulging in lewdity (pun intended). The closure I'd like to have is less a 'disney style' happy ending and more of a 'stop bothering me with this crap'-button. I can only repeat myself, it IS possible to stabilize things like Bailey or (when I ran into this for the first time, I quit playing for two years) the Farm raids. I don't know if this has changed since, but those farm raids used to be so horrible, you could do everything to get and keep the threat level at a minimum, but the farm would be raided and burnt down regardless, it wasn't just punishing, it also didn't make any sense.
That's what I'd like to have, the ability to get rid of annoying mechanics/characters. The high, dark price you have to pay is already implemented, and I'm not asking for the game to change Robin so he pays YOUR rent instead while you tan at the lake.
 

Tsugumi

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I'm surprised no-one's ever made a get-rid-of-Bailey-permanently mod yet, considering how many users have wanted it over the years.
I still remember that during my first couple weeks (maybe a month) of playing DoL I eventually got so annoyed by it that I fired up Notepad++ and edited the amount Bailey asks for to...I even forget what the value was, but the fully ramped up + Robin amount was at 20$ or something like that. And now that my "moneymaking" time was freed up, I kept playing around to familiarize myself with the game. After maybe a couple more months I took those training wheels off.
 

Helmrim

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I'm surprised no-one's ever made a get-rid-of-Bailey-permanently mod yet, considering how many users have wanted it over the years.
you can just life in the woods if you dont like paying the tax. as long as you dont enter the orphanage its doable.
 

whittle

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is there a mod that makes the character look more like an adult, that's the chief complaint i have with the game
Easiest method I know of is to use one of the image mods from the , maybe Goose+Mysterious, since it's one of the few that changes the "battle" images? DoLP does change the mechanics of the game, but OTOH it's more straightforward than going through the process of changing the images yourself.

Also, I know someone made a post with a comparison of the mod packs but I can't seem to find it via the search function..
 
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