HTML Degrees of Lewdity [v0.5.6.8] [Vrelnir]

[tester72]

People pull up realism whenever they have no argument to make. It is not brought up with any mechanics they enjoy. I mean, who's complaining about having a horse leashed by the town indefinitely at no upkeep? If a good mechanic is added, being realistic is just a nice topping, not the reason why it's good. Realism is also mentioned a lot when what is really meant is authenticity and/or immersion. And an entitled mindset is another thing. "Huh, I would've thought there'd be onions in a market" and "It's so stupid there's no onions in the market" express the same issue, yet with different openness to an explanation. One would think the concept of game design would be a sufficient explanation for decisions made for gameplay but I guess some people prefer to be angry than to think.

Realism is a set of immersion. When people argue that something isnt realistic they are meaning that the way something is placed ingame its breaking the immersion of realism.
Theres immersion of magic, immersion of horror, immersion of simulation and soo on. All of them are just aspects of immersion based on a set discipline in our case realism.
If your game is a gritty horror survival and your way to obtain a resource is to get a phone and simply order it in the middle of a zombie swarm then that is breaking the immersion of horror.

The game doesnt offer much that would place it outside of immersion of realism as explained. Its a typical small town, set in somewhere around 1990 to 2010. People are horny, there are hallucinations of beast people but nothing much that would make me say that there are fantasy elements that would mark the onion issue fitting into the world.

Having gameplay reasoning doesnt make issues go away but it seems like some people are more entitled to belittle the complaints of others than to think reasonably about what exact is the problem here.
All they need to do for this little issue is to change the onions into something thats actually rare and the problem solves itself, instead you are trying to argue that instead of doing something that simple people should accept flawed gameplay reasonings.


On a note:
"If a good mechanic is added, being realistic is just a nice topping, not the reason why it's good." Meanwhile theres an entire genre of games aiming at realistic simulations where the reason why something is good is because its realistic not because its a good mechanic.

I bet you will try to come at this with some witty remark "play those then". Ignoring the principles of proper immersion building in favor of your own opinions.

 

[sparrow_rose]

whether the supermarket has onions or not isnt up us, the player, but them.

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[rhoghadessa]

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Remy will remember this

 

[boon4791]

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Ahh i forget modders can grant wishes too
Is this mod for vanilla or Dol+?

 

[u41340]

There's two things that I can't really wrap my head around here. First is that half the time it seems like you're fighting contortionists because the descriptions indicate absolutely nonsensical positions. Is it just me or is it that bad? Second, can you actually escape fights without getting everyone off? Seems impossible.

 

[rhoghadessa]

Second, can you actually escape fights without getting everyone off? Seems impossible.

The only way to get away from a 'fight' are to either beat'em all up or to make all your enemies orgasm. Beating them all up is the most straightforward one - you often walk away after, unless it's specific events where it's a series of fights. For making your enemy orgasm, that can sometimes depend - there are a few instances where making them do so counts as a 'victory' for the PC, but also many other instances where making them orgasm counts as the PC's 'loss' but with no further consequences (they thank you, if at all, for being a 'good slut' and walk away), or in some event fights, where making them orgasm is the same as losing (often the case for 'difficult fights' where in vanilla 95% of the time even with maxed combat-related stuff you're expected to lose, like those 3-6-person fights/gangbangs).

No, you can't just decide to just flee when a fight has started. In vanilla, when a fight initiates it's all from a position where you're pretty much 'on the ground', either on your knees or on your back. While DoLP does allow you to start combat from a 'standing position' via Combat Extended, it only just helps you fight better initially and still doesn't let you just try to bolt out of there. The only way to not be in a fight is to not get caught and/or be in a position where you have to fight in the first place.

 

[Amhran]

In most environments where casual passerbys are around (i.e. most non-secluded places during the daytime), you can scream to end an encounter. Bite and use the "free your face" action with your hands if someone's covering your mouth. People get so up in arms about Whitney harassing you, but they're easily escapable via screaming the vast majority of the time, especially if you're not playing with a small/tiny body type.

It gets harder with a small/tiny body type, but hey, that's something the player has to opt to play with, and you should adjust your play accordingly, especially if you're doing ironman. Wandering the streets at night gets pretty dangerous when you can't scream or easily beat other people up.

 

[gembunny]

You can also pepper spray people if you have any on you, and if you don't care about feats you can make it infinite via cheats.

I always have that option enabled bc after a while I get tired of Whitney trying to rape my ass and wanna be meaner than screaming in their ear (which they tend to cover my mouth so it can sometimes not be an option). Unfortunately it does raise your crime up so gotta be careful there unless you're willing to check and decrease to 0 every now and then when the fuzz starts suspecting you.

 

[anomajou]

There's two things that I can't really wrap my head around here. First is that half the time it seems like you're fighting contortionists because the descriptions indicate absolutely nonsensical positions. Is it just me or is it that bad? Second, can you actually escape fights without getting everyone off? Seems impossible.

1) it's not that bad. usually. unfortunately, the combat system is too huge to fix it.
2) you can try screaming. in broad daylight and with good rep it works more often than not. don't wander off at night if you can't deal with the fights. otherwise, get good grades and train your athletics. science lets you stay in the fight longer before you surrender to pain. english improves "apologize" action, which decreases npcs anger so they stop inflicting pain for a bit. swimming and athletics (physical activity in general) improve your physique, which improves all damage dealt (except sprays). then there's fox, cat, and wolf transformations, which give you fangs and make biting someone's tits off super effective. pepper sprays also help, you can get one weekly refill from the compound (needs c in skulduggery), beloved (90+) kylar, and the lab in the loft if you build one (ask kylar after unlocking the loft). kylar protecc, even when not around.

Unless you're dealt events like being shoved inside a locker, which will make you late if you can't get out for ex.

skill issue. literally. get skuld up, it's not the hardest of locks. or improve your school rep so you don't get shoved into lockers to begin with, that's a thing.

Again, a damn corner of a chair or whatever shouldn't tear your skirt

i mean, may no one accuse british chairs of being dull, god save the queen!

 

[rhoghadessa]

i mean, may no one accuse british chairs of being dull, god save the queen!

In DoLP, even if you pay Leighton to upgrade the school desks and chairs, they still rip your skirt. If those chairs are like those ancient school chairs with those wooden panels for your back and butt but otherwise uses a metal frame, maybe they should also have a chance to catch your skirt as you stand up and end up flashing people that way as well because the hem of your skirt happened to get into the gap between the wooden and metal frame just right. Or maybe if you don't tuck your shirt in, when you sit down there's a chance the back of your shirt catches the wooden frame and you end up exposing your back and/or bra/breasts

 

[mehmeme]

Having gameplay reasoning doesnt make issues go away but it seems like some people are more entitled to belittle the complaints of others than to think reasonably about what exact is the problem here.

But... There *is* no problem here. *You* have a problem here, yes, but most other people dont, or at least I havent really seen anyone else complain about this yet. Isnt it more entitled to assume your problems are everyone elses?

 

[sparrow_rose]

Ahh i forget modders can grant wishes too
Is this mod for vanilla or Dol+?

It's vanilla, but~ I actually already added it to DoL, too. I'll just add that one in the link, too. Oh, and if playing an existing save you'll have to wait a week for any new stuff to show up at the supermarket.

 

[tester72]

But... There *is* no problem here. *You* have a problem here, yes, but most other people dont, or at least I havent really seen anyone else complain about this yet. Isnt it more entitled to assume your problems are everyone elses?

I mean let me ask you, if you play a game and you dislike several things...what is gonna be your priority list from gamebreaking bugs, bugs, unbalanced game content, lack of Qol and immersion topics?

There are tons of things i dislike about the Anthro Heat game and by the time i get to something of similar category like the onions here im already angry about the others failing me.

This is not a priority issue, its a minor thing and the game isnt a case of death by thousands cuts so most probably even if they dislike this wont talk about it because theres more pressing things.
The fact that the onions got mentioned here is quite a positive thing because it means that our dude's biggest issue with the game is something that can be fixed by adding in an actual rare ingredient into the plant list.

Also i havent seen since ages that white knight stance where someone claims a problem doesnt exist because there arent enough people complaining about it. Talk about nostalgy.

 

[mehmeme]

If I play a game and dislike several things... I stop playing it.

Also i havent seen since ages that white knight stance where someone claims a problem doesnt exist because there arent enough people complaining about it.

Lmao what? The problem doesnt exist because its not a problem for 99.9% of people. Idk if you know that "white knight" means ngl.

 

[sparrow_rose]

Ah~ I feel for Purity. Don't know anything about the guy, but digging into someone's past and affecting their real life livelihood is almost always a no-no. Especially since people do change. Fortunately, it doesn't seem they were fired.

 

[MRN64]

Can we just like drop the onion discussion already? Pretty sure everyone has said all that could possibly be relevant at this point. If it keeps getting brought up just ignore it.

 

[sparrow_rose]

Can we just like drop the onion discussion already? Pretty sure everyone has said all that could possibly be relevant at this point. If it keeps getting brought up just ignore it.

Oh, I thought we were done with that. I even dropped a mod solving that issue, and have already confirmed that it shouldn't break anything in the future even if the game updates and I don't update said mod... which I probably will update it cause it's nice having onions in the Supermarket. I've removed apples from my version, but the one available to download still has apples, and I'm too lazy to match it to mine so enjoy the Supermarket apples... for now.

 

[anomajou]

Ah~ I feel for Purity. Don't know anything about the guy, but digging into someone's past and affecting their real life livelihood is almost always a no-no. Especially since people do change. Fortunately, it doesn't seem they were fired.

people do change. i witnessed it several times in major ways and on a massive scale just over the past decade. bet only the most "- - - awareness" people didn't.
purityguy is a good team lead and a reasonable person. he has his vision, and he's approachable when you want to introduce yours. as long as it doesn't contradict vrelnir's. he's easy to work with, and i haven't seen him exhibiting any toxic traits when it comes to managing contributions. which is what he did (and hopefully will continue doing). if some feature was added to the game - chances are he helped it happen, even if it's not mentioned in the changelog. and the witch hunts against him are contrived, completely unjustified and sucked out of finger.

 

[PixelLewd]

Just checked the vrel post on the blogspot about this, and holy fuck, what absolutely stupid shit that Purity was witchhunted for.

Why do people always try to purity test everyone nowadays? To the extent they even go searching for things they've said in the past to use against them in the present( which imo is ONLY valid if the person in question is being hypocritical). Really wish this type of stuff would just die out man.

And I hope Purity will be able to rest and eventually comeback, never fun when certain crazies decide to go after you for frankly dumb reasons.

 

[RayBar]

MFW the game that caters to degenerate subhumans has a community made up of degenerate subhumans.

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