Unreal Engine Delta Zone [v19.0] [DEVOLUTION]
- Dec 1, 2017
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The "V" key for dressing was removed. Dressing and undressing is done via the inventory screen now.
Or I dunno, like I've suggested here I don't know how many times, to put it on Itch.io (like most porn devs do) with a minimum buy price per download or on Steam (like most aspiring porn devs want to do).
Also still can't access the server, so I guess I won't be playing Delta Zone anymore. Time to look for something new. Its such a shame, it has such great tentacle stuff.
6000? Bruh! Yeah, I don't know what he's then bitching about. The cunt earns more than me, my siblings and my parents put together and my father especially labored outside in freezing cold, winter, rain, snow, etc. Fuck dev then for his greed and whining.
Well, for a game programmer, working in Industry, its not actually all that much. The average game programmer in USA makes $100-150k depending on the studio, so that is 8300 USD to 12500 USD monthly. Course you take off some of that for retirement or taxes, so its maybe 7500 to 10500 a month.
Its why AAA studios have microtransactions. When you have over hundred programmers, working for 3 years, that is about 2.5 million US right there. Then you have artists, writers, level designers, game designers, marketing, etc... and the budget costs easily reaches 100 million USD in a few years.
Its why AAA studios have microtransactions. When you have over hundred programmers, working for 3 years, that is about 2.5 million US right there. Then you have artists, writers, level designers, game designers, marketing, etc... and the budget costs easily reaches 100 million USD in a few years.
Sure, but he's an indie dev making a single game. That's not equatable to a full-time employed dev at a big studio working on AAA titles.
Also, if you look at the expenses by studios, most of the budget goes into marketing and advertising, not to devs.
You will probably just Ignore/ misrepresent what I have to say but I will still say it:
How out of touch can you be?
Just because he is a single indie Dev (with an animator that he also has to pay for his work), he does not deserve to get payed as well as someone working for a big Studio? Even tough he literally does (mostly) everything all by himself?
Also, about those 6000 Dollars/ Month his patreon makes: That money is given to him by people that want to finance this game! He did not wake up one day and say "Oh man, today I want to make 6k a month!". That money is the result of the work he has been doing on his own for years and keeps on doing. Its not your money that he gets, its the money that other people gave him out of their own free will, because they can afford it to give him that money.
Then how about you go ask your Dad why he did that Job? Did he like his Job? Did he have the opportunity to do something else or get a better paid job?
Again, it was not the Dev that decided that he gets 6K a month but the collective people who like the game and want it to succeed. He is also not bitching about it, that is all you people in here, calling forth the one millionth DRM apocalypse, that did not happen (after all, people here are still able to play it with the same old Crack that is now nearly half a year old).
You talk about the Dev being greedy, but here you are bitching about everything he does with HIS project, while (and I am certain of this) you have done nothing to support the project. You are sitting here, moaning about everything, while playing the result of the Dev's work and everyone else's money, while not having paid anything for it. And please, do not go "I will buy it once it is done", the only one you are fooling is yourself.
If you really would want to help the Game getting made, you would have paid a few bucks at some point. You would be on the Discord, actually talking to the Dev and not in here, talking about him like you know anything about him.
But you did not want to. You choose to do this all day, crying about a Dev taking the necessary steps to add online features to his game.
Clearly, this is all the Devs fault...
Wow, $6000!!! And he complains!!! In Bulgaria, for example, people earn $500 a month, work at a factory 8-9 hours a day and on a night shift, and they’re fucking happy. And if we talk about some countries, their monthly income is $200 and their pension is $70. And this is not in some Africa
Personally, it’s not difficult for me to give him $5-10 a month, this is a pack of cigarettes, I don’t have a card, really without cheating
Again, all the complaining is done by a few people in here, who do not understand what is going on. NOT the Dev.
As far as I am aware, all he (the Dev) cares about is the progress of the Game and the fact that the Patreons get what they paid for.
Also the Dev is not a Employee, like most of us, he is pretty much self employed. It is not unusual for someone that is self employed to make 4-6K a month (if they do a good job in the right field) but they will also have to pay for everything themselves (Office space, Licences, Power, Tools, Healthcare, saving for Retirement ect.). After all that you are usually left with way less money that you can spend on yourself, than you think.
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Dude, people are allowed to attempt protect their shit. Bitching about someone trying to protect their property isn't a good argument. Granted, I think he is wrong to up the ante on anti-piracy but I still respect the decision, its his property. Its a hell of a lot better than patreon scamming people with trickle or low effort content like some other game and their devs I could name around here.
RisenKill There are multiple issues with this mindset:
1. There are tons of non-porn indie games out there, that make less than $100 a month from Patreon, and many of those games are really cool. Would you support them month to month? Probably not. But would you buy their game, when its done, probably yes. Its only with porn indie games that getting money off Patreon is the normal way to get funding; most have to work extra jobs, get a publisher, or hope for the best at Early Access steam launch.
2. There are tons of porn indie games that allow access to game builds via Itch.io or Steam. Like Breeders of Nephelym and Carnal Instinct are on Steam and are the same as the Patreon versions. You just have to pay per build (ie Itch) or pay once (ie Steam).
3. The DRM Apocalypse hasn't happened yet, you mean. Before there was the crack, people had to wait 1.5 years to play the most recent build. The new server architecture will eventually defeat the crack and it will be back to DRM paywalls. It will likely scan the game executable for injected code (how the crack works basically) and then prevent access to the server while that injected code is present. Its how Rust or Conan Exiles or 7 Days to Die, detects a lot of game hacks in multiplayer, is to look for known injected code .dlls.
4. Lots of porn devs have public accessible Discords. I've supported a lot of them on their discords, like Dread Lord Defiler, Beasts in the Sun and Likkezg's server. This is one of the few discords that requires you to pay to be there. Otherwise, I'd have joined the Discord and gave feedback there.
5. It is rarely necessary to add online features to a single player game. Unless its for DRM, microtransactions (ie Lootboxes in Destiny 1), or ingame purchases with real money (ie RMAH for Diablo 3). You generally don't need online features for game saves as even large saves like Skyrim saves, are totally manageable on 256gb SSDs which most users have at this point. You don't need online features for game data unless the data is so massive that it can't fit on people's machines.
6. I only give money to porn devs, if there is significant amounts of porn in the game. This one porn is the backburner, so its nice to see new animations, but its not a dedicated porn game like most porn games are. Like Beasts in the Sun. This game, it needs cheats to play, and I'm not forking that kind of dough over for every build that comes out, when its hard to justify at times spending $15 on an indie game on Steam.
1. There are tons of non-porn indie games out there, that make less than $100 a month from Patreon, and many of those games are really cool. Would you support them month to month? Probably not. But would you buy their game, when its done, probably yes. Its only with porn indie games that getting money off Patreon is the normal way to get funding; most have to work extra jobs, get a publisher, or hope for the best at Early Access steam launch.
2. There are tons of porn indie games that allow access to game builds via Itch.io or Steam. Like Breeders of Nephelym and Carnal Instinct are on Steam and are the same as the Patreon versions. You just have to pay per build (ie Itch) or pay once (ie Steam).
3. The DRM Apocalypse hasn't happened yet, you mean. Before there was the crack, people had to wait 1.5 years to play the most recent build. The new server architecture will eventually defeat the crack and it will be back to DRM paywalls. It will likely scan the game executable for injected code (how the crack works basically) and then prevent access to the server while that injected code is present. Its how Rust or Conan Exiles or 7 Days to Die, detects a lot of game hacks in multiplayer, is to look for known injected code .dlls.
4. Lots of porn devs have public accessible Discords. I've supported a lot of them on their discords, like Dread Lord Defiler, Beasts in the Sun and Likkezg's server. This is one of the few discords that requires you to pay to be there. Otherwise, I'd have joined the Discord and gave feedback there.
5. It is rarely necessary to add online features to a single player game. Unless its for DRM, microtransactions (ie Lootboxes in Destiny 1), or ingame purchases with real money (ie RMAH for Diablo 3). You generally don't need online features for game saves as even large saves like Skyrim saves, are totally manageable on 256gb SSDs which most users have at this point. You don't need online features for game data unless the data is so massive that it can't fit on people's machines.
6. I only give money to porn devs, if there is significant amounts of porn in the game. This one porn is the backburner, so its nice to see new animations, but its not a dedicated porn game like most porn games are. Like Beasts in the Sun. This game, it needs cheats to play, and I'm not forking that kind of dough over for every build that comes out, when its hard to justify at times spending $15 on an indie game on Steam.
Does anyone have a download link from other sources? Otherwise it doesn’t want to download from me
Where do you live that it costs $10 for a pack of cigarettes? In Canada, you are lucky to get a pack for $15, but its usually more.
Where I chew, the most expensive cigarettes cost $4. average cost $2.5 and cheap $1.5The translator sucks, I'm tired of changing words (I live)This is exactly a pack of 20 cigarettes, it’s not a packet of tobacco.I’m 1$ is 37 here, so calculate how much a pack costs
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I don't wanna stoop down to dickriding Devolution so I'll keep it short. Piracy countermeasures in your game? Fine. Everyone does it and it's basically standard for a lot of games. Online connected DRMs? Stupid. Already as so many people have pointed out on this site and off, online-only just hurts your game more than if not absolutely wrecks its release.
It sucks that your game is pirated, but that's to be expected, like how you don't think that nothing wrong is gonna happen in your life. But resorting to tactics like this just hurts the game more than help it. The thing is aside from a few feature removals and the obvious problem, the game has actually improved. Graphics look nice and I still enjoy the game.
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Deriding a developer doesn't usually result in anything positive.
As for piracy countermeasures, that is more something you invest in for the beta or final build. Like Denuvo usually gets installed into AAA games, late into the development cycle. It may have the trappings of always online before that, but the anti-piracy measures are generally one of the last things implemented.
However the best anti-piracy countermeasures are:
-> Having a good product, in a finalized state, at a good price point. Most porn games aren't even near late beta state; this one certainly isn't.
-> Having the option to refund your money, if you don't like it. Can't do that with subscription paywalls.
-> Paying once, or having the option to pay again. ie Itch.io method. Or skipping the pay option, to test out the product and then going back and paying for it.
-> Utilizing a system of biometrics. Pretty hard to crack a fingerprint or retina ID scanner.
-> Having a simple key/password system, with a guard-dog software lurking behind it. Attempting to bypass the key/password activates the guard dog. Sometimes its as simple as crashing the program, but it could be more malicious like a blaster trojan.
-> Download/install executables that can only be used once per user. A lot of popular software, like Ufile uses a system like this.
-> Using registry data to setup protected information, that crashes the program anytime its modified by RegEdit, so that only specific software can create and update that protected information.
-> Requiring the user to install a secondary program, that performs guard-dog operations. A lot of games takes this option, and a lot of users aren't even aware the secondary program gets installed. I often find at least one Steam Next Fest game doing this.
-> Having something bad happen to the user, in game, if they are using a pirated product. Examples include the chicken gun in Crysis, the invulnerable scorpion in Serious Sam 3, and dying to game piracy in Game Dev Simulator.
The above are the best, because they are the least intrusive, doesn't require always online, and it ensures that the creator gets paid for their work.
What have different game developers to do with this? I am talking about this Project and this Developer, not anyone else.
Just to clarify (even though I should not have to since you know that the wait time that you wrote there is wrong):
Way before all this, in the winter of the year 2021/2022, Devolution held a vote with his patreon supporters on how to handle the Public (free) Releases. The Patreons voted for him to try to make a Update every 2 months, with the Patreons getting the newest version and the Public the one Release "older" one. Now, long story short, stuff happened, people could not wait, shit got toxic and at the end of the "Public Releases" and shortly before the Crack, the "wait" time for the public Releases was about 4-6 Months. Not 1.5 Years!
Again with other Game Devs... I am just gonna say this, you get the Access to his Discord for only pledging 1$. It acts more as a Troll and Spam deterrent than a "Paywall". Like you can do with your money, the Dev can do with his Discord.
I mentioned the Souls games a bunch in this regard. I will not say exactly what it is, but there is that one mechanic in those games, that many people hate and love, that might could come to this game in some form. The Dev floated that Idea in the Discord a few times. That is why the game needs Online connectivity and a way to identify the players.
Also, non of the official descriptions of the game her or on Patreon state that it will be a complete Singleplayer game.
Makes you think about the future possibility's of this game really...