Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.16b] [Zetan]

[Enigmanic]

Again, stupid response.
Of course someone who is just turning middle aged will not consider themself such.
That doesn't alter the fact that they are.
I have provided numerous reputable sources & you're arguing with them, as well as with someone who is in their fourties.

Seriously now, go away. You're not worth the time.
You're trying to argue with facts.
Good luck with that.

Good luck trying to apply simplistic math to society's perceptions about common terminology. And if I wasn't worth the time then you wouldn't bother to continue arguing. But keep going, I have all night.

 

[Enigmanic]

You're behaving like a moron & you have nothing as a valid argument, that's why it's boring now.
You're clueless & lonely, I get it.
Try not arguing with facts, you might end up with some friends.

And yet you keep replying. Did you want to be friends? Thanks for your interest in my social calander, I'll see if I can fit you in.

 

[Canto Forte]

What the bable is going on here? Are y”all outta your heads today?
MC HAS 2 GROWN UP MATING AGED DAUGHTERS FFS!
How young did you think someone who was his wife”s cherry popper would be?

Yes, because you know what society's perceptions are, better than a major international magazine, better than wikipedia, better than the dictionary. Of course you do. You're special.

And yet you keep replying. Did you want to be friends? Thanks for your interest in my social calander, I'll see if I can fit you in.

This is now tom hardy in the mad max fantasy, but bearded mel gibson is great also.
How young do you think the actual living breeding men who played mad max are?

 

[Cynicaladm]

You guys are making sweeping generalisations about things that are intimately tied to local culture and traditions and therefore vary greatly depending on who you ask and where. Half the world thinks that if you're not married by your early twenties you're reaching your sell by date, the other half lived at home until their mid thirties for any number of reasons. People now have hobbies and passtimes like videogaming that until 20 years ago was considered to be a children activity, and they keep playing into their retirement.

Either way you look at it, none of it is relevant to DS, a game set in a dystopian/future setting, after an apocalyptic event that has given birth to, amongst others the decayed, who have an indefinite lifespan, not to mention mutants.. Who knows how old mutants are and if their bloodlines have ever entered the bloodstream of "normal humans"?
(Well.. I know, but y'all don't )

Also, the mortality rate is such that dying of old age or typically age related health conditions is by no means an easy feat..
Finally, Zeta is the product, as a society, of a survival of the fittest culture, which has gone on for several centuries and counting.

So any sort of real world parallel doesn't apply.

 

[BurnerBanner]

It's not lame, to me it's just good mc centered. Using the mod can miss scenes but this vn must be a head ache to mod a walkthrough for as almost all the choices really matter.

So many scenes to see by choosing different choices, again it has to be a headache.

I never meant to insult the mod or modder just wanted to bring awareness to those of us that like to play a more bad mc that there are scenes that exist going against the mod's suggested choices.

No it is not game have sensorship so. That mod will be useless. + Mod help u when u select dominant MC choice.

And how good mc don't want his daughter get married

 

[BurnerBanner]

I assume you meant to leave that comment on the mod thread page itself?

If not, the only obvious response is: Play without it?

It is for making people aware. Mod link exist on main page. So it normal to download walkthrough mod. But it just modder choice many time then walkthrough. (I post on modder page he did not reply Or modified mod.)

 

[BurnerBanner]

It's also not really necessary.. the quest log and a quick run through the main locations should be more than enough to allow you not to miss out on content... except where choices matter and lead to diverging content, something no walkthrough can fix for you (maybe a mod).
The nr of functioning braincells required to navigate the game is fairly low...
Then again, people keep asking me what "to be continued" means so...

seriously though, making a walkthrough at this stage can't work, simply because there is no way to tell where the various paths will lead, and therefore no way to pick an optimal path....any walkthrough out there is at best a guess..a preferred option for the author of it.

Agree mod select many choice which not lead to anything. It just a next change dialog.

Problem is 2nd scene have major choice. which mod fuck-up. And as normal person I blind trust the mod

 

[Cynicaladm]

As for the whole is it porn or not...
The game has pornographic content, so it meets the basic requirement for being a porn game. It also has much more and the game would hold up and the plot make sense even if you took away all the sex scenes.
There are games where the sex is the objective and the game a means to an end, the end being getting the sex scene.
And games where the sex is part of the story. It serves as a storytelling device but pursuing it isn't the main purpose of any of the characters. This is the latter... But both can still be porn games. If it wasn't also a porn game we wouldn't promote it on this site. The tricky part is to balance enough adult content in a narratively believable way without letting all the tits and ass get in the way of the story we want to tell.
A bit of a struggle between authorial vision and catering to your audience.

The fact that most of the players in here scroll through the game and play it primarily for the sex scenes is on the user end of the equation and has little to do with what we are actually trying to make, at least from a creative point of view.
It does of course play a role in how we balance things and certain features we add: if it was only about the story, the gallery would contain plot relevant scenes, rather than only sex

 

[Kellermann]

As for the whole is it porn or not...
The game has pornographic content, so it meets the basic requirement for being a porn game. It also has much more and the game would hold up and the plot make sense even if you took away all the sex scenes.
There are games where the sex is the objective and the game a means to an end, the end being getting the sex scene.
And games where the sex is part of the story. It serves as a storytelling device but pursuing it isn't the main purpose of any of the characters. This is the latter... But both can still be porn games. If it wasn't also a porn game we wouldn't promote it on this site. The tricky part is to balance enough adult content in a narratively believable way without letting all the tits and ass get in the way of the story we want to tell.
A bit of a struggle between authorial vision and catering to your audience.

The fact that most of the players in here scroll through the game and play it primarily for the sex scenes is on the user end of the equation and has little to do with what we are actually trying to make, at least from a creative point of view.
It does of course play a role in how we balance things and certain features we add: if it was only about the story, the gallery would contain plot relevant scenes, rather than only sex

Agreed. Now let's all get back to discussing what is truly important...Ain's glorious rack

and Shani's upcoming sex scene with MC Gotta make that happen

Me monkey brain take over...ooo ooo ahh ahh.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

No it is not game have sensorship so. That mod will be useless. + Mod help u when u select dominant MC choice.

And how good mc don't want his daughter get married

To me it speaks to how the culture is in the new world. Women are possessions unless they are stalkers themselves, queens/nobility or blessed mothers.

The mod might not be for me because I play darker, a lot of friends like the lighter play and the mod is perfect for that imo.

 

[BurnerBanner]

To me it speaks to how the culture is in the new world. Women are possessions unless they are stalkers themselves, queens/nobility or blessed mothers.

The mod might not be for me because I play darker, a lot of friends like the lighter play and the mod is perfect for that imo.

Mod tell u to kill person abuse his slave. That is not Dark.
U can avoid that there is no consequence yet. Daughter lock for a harem. Don't tell u to save women in market kidnapping events. (I can give other examples)
The walkthrough is supposed to be a guide. Let the player decide he/she already switch off censorship. If u don't switch off censorship then other path options are a lock.

 

[Cynicaladm]

"Middle aged" is a specific term, with a specific definition of between 40-65, some say it begins at 45.
A "young person" is specifically defined as being between childhood & adulthood.
Average global human male lifespan, is 72.
The MC has a 20+ year old daughter. He is biologically closer to middle aged, than to "rather young", in this game.
I think it's a good thing.

It's categorically, dictionary defined, not porn.
It containing pornographic elements, does not change that fact.
End of.

I'm the guy who writes most if not all of the lore of the game, who argued for establishing the age of the core characters (most of you guys are low-balling it, by the way), and I'm telling you that all 3 of us devs are under no illusions that what we do does at least partially fall under the definition of porn, else we wouldn't be here and we would not pay extra attention to what we depict and how we depict it, in terms of compliance with laws and rules for such entities such as patreon and similar.

 

[whichone]

I'm the guy who writes most if not all of the lore of the game, who argued for establishing the age of the core characters (most of you guys are low-balling it, by the way), and I'm telling you that all 3 of us devs are under no illusions that what we do does at least partially fall under the definition of porn, else we wouldn't be here and we would not pay extra attention to what we depict and how we depict it, in terms of compliance with laws and rules for such entities such as patreon and similar.

I know who you are, I responded to someone invalidly arguing with you earlier.

Having sexual content, does not default something to being porn.
If the sexual content was removed, the story would still be of interest.
That disqualifies it from being classified as porn, by literal definition of the term.
It's just lazy & a little ignorant, to call games like this porn.

 

[Cynicaladm]

I know who you are, I responded to someone invalidly arguing with you earlier.

Having sexual content, does not default something to being porn.

by that definition, having a movie set in the 1400s and the cast being dressed accordingly doesn't make it a period piece.
but I can't really be bothered to argue semantics.
We don't mind it being defined as porn, and we know the audience we cater to is primarily looking for sex/kink scenes.
we also know that there's more to it than just porn.
This won't be the first game, or creative piece of media that can find a home equally on a shelf full of pornography and on one of more elevated content, if we want to subscribe to the demeaning take on what constitutes pornography.
Plenty of classic porn movies, mostly from decades past, came with a sound plot, fairly high production values, a script, a budget for costumes and scenography and the occasional decent acting. they were still sold in a brown or black bag, and hidden away on the higher shelves.
It doesn't bother us, as long as the majority of the people who play the game appreciate that there's more to it.. and a fair nr of those who bother giving feedback do so, so it's all good.

 

[whichone]

by that definition, having a movie set in the 1400s and the cast being dressed accordingly doesn't make it a period piece.
but I can't really be bothered to argue semantics.
We don't mind it being defined as porn, and we know the audience we cater to is primarily looking for sex/kink scenes.
we also know that there's more to it than just porn.
This won't be the first game, or creative piece of media that can find a home equally on a shelf full of pornography and on one of more elevated content, if we want to subscribe to the demeaning take on what constitutes pornography.
Plenty of classic porn movies, mostly from decades past, came with a sound plot, fairly high production values, a script, a budget for costumes and scenography and the occasional decent acting. they were still sold in a brown or black bag, and hidden away on the higher shelves.
It doesn't bother us, as long as the majority of the people who play the game appreciate that there's more to it.. and a fair nr of those who bother giving feedback do so, so it's all good.

No, it doesn't alter a period piece being a period piece. How does the definition of porn do anything to period pieces?
It has nothing at all to do with anything else, except for porn.
Seriously, look the word up.
Porn has a specific definition and games like this do not qualify for it.

Anyone who classifies this, or any other adult game with sexual content, which also has a strong story, as porn, is blatantly incorrect & ignorant of the word's meaning & what qualifies for it.

This game has artistic value, ergo it is not porn.

Pornography (often shortened to porn, or porno) is the portrayal of

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A distinction could be drawn between uncensored explicit or hardcore erotic art, and pornography.

This game does not exist for the "exclusive" purpose of sexual arousal, ergo it is not porn.
As I said, by literal definition of the word.

 

[badnboujee]

do we know which girls are supposed to be getting the spotlight for 0.8? I think I read that it'll follow Shani a bit?

 

[TheOtherGuyWithGlasses]

God this thread is toxic af...

Anyway, anyone know about the latest status update?

 

[berny]

For the love of god. Could we please stop talking about the definition of porn and certain ages. For most people this is as interesting as watching grass grow. Even the devs said their piece.
This site also allows private conversations in case someone wasn't aware of that.

 

[Catherine♡]

God this thread is toxic af...

I wouldn't call it toxic, of course there are arguments but the majority try to be civil to each other.

 

[ZenGarden]

"Civil" and "online forum"... someone show me where this has ever happened...

whichone might sometimes be overbearing, but he does try to be 'correct' from a defensible argument basis.

Whether he hits the ignore button in time or not is a different matter ;P