Cynicaladm

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I mean, what are her options really?

Actually some lore about that in the ingame library would be interesting. It's a little confusing how there are sex slaves in Zeta, but all women seem to be free use anyway, unless they're married. There are priestesses specifically used for breeding, but it seems like slaves also get impregnated all the time anyway.
Then there's dialogue with Ain about how she's supposed to get married off to a different household, but only if she wants to, but she's also collared like a slave and can be shared with guests (really hoping for more of this btw!). Daughters of other households, like Nadia for example, aren't collared, so it's a little hard to tell the difference between Ain and the slaves.
preface: this is mostly an elaboration on the content of the game and the society of Zeta how we are"building it"...it is not canon, but close. Things I say here though could be contradicted in the future by further content added to the game.

A couple of the answers you are looking for are given during active play, others are in the library itself.

To the point...in Zeta there are slaves, in the ancient History sense of the term. They can be used sexually and shared freely by their owners, but the enslaved status goes beyond being a sex toy.
Sexual slavery per sé is more within the realm of BDSM between willing partners, where themes of cnc and rack apply. The "slave" in that situation might very well be a free woman or man.
Zetan lore:
It's not so much that women are free use, rather that sex is very free and a completely normalised way of interacting. For comparison, look at the Bonobo chimpanzee, who use it as a social lubricant, a way to defuse conflicts, a way to establish dominance or broker piece, strengthen relationships and so on.
Some slaves can be kept purely for sexual use, and they don't have much of a say.
Any woman who is not formally a slave, but this is true for men also, has to find their place in society and have the freedom they can afford/are able to defend.
A free person can defend their freedom, their possessions and their virtue (if they want to) with a blade, with a compromise, with their wits or with the power of their name or personal wealth that allows them to employ those that defend it for them.
Women who are daughters or wives of men who are absent because deployed on orders of the queen do get an extra bit of protection and are customarily left alone by predators... in general however, preying on a woman for sex is risky.. she might be a fighter herself, or have ties to someone stronger than you, in general, straight up abuse is frowned upon when not actively punished... but again, exceptions such as slaves or mutants occur, and the queen's men rarely intervene in domestic affairs.
How about cuck situations and people like Z who seem to do whatever they please? Again we go back to the founding rules of Zeta.. you take what you can, and what you take is yours, if you have the tools to keep it.
If Zaton walks into a house and decides to hump the lady of the house, it is up to the man of the house (or the lady herself if she is not in the mood or not interested) to stop that from happening, if they have the means to.
Zaton not being a horny teenager and knowing the ways of the world (not to mention drowning in pussy as it is) will probably elect not to do that.
That said, there are finer rules of common sense, common courtesy and not wanting to burn every bridge you cross, that would stop Zaton from doing so... In polite society it's just not the done thing under normal circumstances.
There are always personal considerations of jealousy and pride to be made, and it is pointless to make a potential enemy for a quick romp with a random woman.
That said, Z is an elite fighter and does have a fairly elevated status partly because he is a Stalker, partly because he is comparatively rich, partly because he has the ear of the Queen. Many people either know him directly or know of him by reputation. Some latitude exist for people like him.
Women are not necessarily inferior to men at all, or subject to men.
Mandisa runs her own business, the personal guards of the Queen tend to be good fighters and have decent status. The Revered Mothers, and above them the Priestesses, are untouchable as they are carrying the next generation of Children of Zeta, and their partners are vetted by them, but mostly the priestesses, for "quality".
The reason why Ain is wearing a collar and Shani is not lies in what happened in their family outing in the market. She is a juicy target for a multitude of reasons. The collar is for her protection. It affirms just who her father is and what might happen if someone tries it on again. It is also a punishment for having put herself and her sister in mortal danger, not to mention the reputation of her House. It's not a rule or law, but it is how Z has decided to deal with that particular situation.
Shani on the other hand, has the skills to defend herself and doesn't need a collar.

Nadia is fresh from the countryside. She's still adjusting to how things work there and whether she will need/want a collar to protect herself or not is to be seen.
In theory, her father could, if he wanted to, have her in his bed.. if he had the strength of body or personality or the authority to make her agree to it. That he does not get to do so, despite, according to her, wanting to, is just another example of how varied the sexual and social landscape is.

Collars are not mandatory or necessary. Igor does not use a collar on Kateryna. Then again, she rarely goes anywhere without an escort.

Ain being potentially married off is yet another example of variety. Like in ancient times, marriages could be alliances between Houses, or a commercial transaction, or just a love affair. The parents could decide for her that she has to get married, kick her out of the house, or choose her husband for her... Z doesn't do that because he is rich enough to afford options.
He loves her as his daughter and wants to see her happy... so if she wants to marry a good kid, he'll make it happen, if she wants to stay home, it can be a problem for another day, if at all. He does have the age and wisdom to know that she might just want to start a family, at some point, and if and when she asks him, he will decide how he feels about it.

A less wealthy man might want to marry off his daughters rather than feeding them, a more cruel or uncaring or selfish one might decide to enslave them himself. A man who fancies himself a solid fighter might try his luck at seducing just about anyone and succeed..or die trying.
There are many ways in which one becomes officially a slave in Zeta... conquest, debt, birth, punishment, order of the Queen or the Temple.. getting out of slavery often depends on the goodwill of the owner of the moment, unless one is declared a slave by the Queen herself, in which case slavery is permanent until she changes her mind.

Ultimately, the lore is flexible enough to allow for all manner of configurations, as long as the main tenets hold true, being that the power dynamic has to be believable. Z stepping to the Queen and bending her over in the arena, as badass as he might be, would be suicide, unless she ordered him to, just to make an example.
On the whole, my personal take on Zaton is that he is not unnecessarily cruel, he is dominant and does not suffer opposition or humiliation, but he is also a caring and doting family man, who might enjoy doing his daughter after having spanked her, but is not shy about his feelings of affection towards them. He is fiercely protective of the wellbeing of those he cares about, but is not shy about exploring sexual proclivities and involving them ( Shani being, for now, for reasons abundantly explained elsewhere, the notable exception).
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This dev gets it! :LUL:
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Dev update 10.10.2021

Today's dev update is going to be a bit longer, since it was pretty much a year ago when I started drawing the first two characters, Shani and Ain. I want to give you guys more insight on what you can expect from future updates. Without spoilers, I will explain how the gameplay is going to be structured, and how this ties to all the characters we have made so far. If you're not so interested in that, you may skip the following, for everyone else: enjoy this wall of text :p.

As I said it has been a year into delevopment so far, and we have started a lot of different character arcs, hinting at individual stories. We also said that there is a main plot that we need to build up first. Because we have many characters, there are only so many stories or gameplay features we can expand on in each update. The harem and more upcoming free roam mechanics are one thing, necessary story beats and quests, another.

Story and characters

As you have seen so far, when playing alongside certain characters, they each have their own ways of interacting with the MC and, while you almost always have two paths on how to treat a girl, there are natural limitations to the role each character can take (for now). While you can expect more action oriented, bloody and sociopathic content with the Raider sisters, you will get opportunities for more romantic and down-to-earth events with Kateryna.

That doesn't mean there won't ever be a romance option with Asha at the end, as we're not ruling anything out, but the focus is on being a Raider and, well... being a jackass.

How things will be structured:

In 0.5 we introduced the different factions which will play an important role in the story (depending on whether you help them or not) and, as you can see, the mutants will be relevant again in 0.08 (provided you didn't let Ivy die).

Each faction will have dedicated quests, which will, comprehensively, tie into the main quest. Those faction quests will (over time) come in the form of new locations from where you can freely select the missions, but more on that in future updates.

While the game's overal story arc does not revolve around the girls and how to date them, like many other games do, they are obviously still a strong element of the plot and the game itself, so that even those "story focused" events will sometimes be about developing and giving insight into a character, like you saw in the arena event with the Queen. This is so because these characters will be relevant to said over arching plot.

Shani heading to the Zone is a necessary step for the main plot (which is slowly being introduced), but it is also vital for her character arc, so it may feel like we're stretching the plot at times, or leaving it to the side, when we really are not.
In short, the main story telling is tied to some of the character arcs and vice versa.

NSFW scenes

The other thing I want to address is the length of the NSFW scenes, their quantity and quality with regards to animations.

As I have said before, I want to try something new in this update. So far, we've had a solid number of scenes with girls, some immediately after meeting them (Fangs, Nadia), and some where what might happen or not is still up in the air (Ivy, Shani).

I always think it's lame if you have to look up a walkthrough to see whether the dev prefers you to give the girl a banana or a coconut which will determine whether she opens up to you or not, or letting the player wait for 1,5 years to see any action with any girls at all. So we have used a variety of both quick action and long winded character romances.

But overall those scenes I depicted are very short, and some have said they would prefer more "feeling" in them. So, what I'm trying to do this time around (you can let me know whether you like it or not) is to have fewer, but longer, more intense and realistic NSFW scenes. It stands to reason that characters that the players have been waiting for for a long time (the Queen for instance), should get a solid scene as a payload eventually, and not a handful of renders and a short animation. The plan is for this to include a few more animations, but we will see how that pans out.

So... that's it for now, let me know if you like the occasional peek behind the curtains, or if your reaction is more like "cool story dev, when update".

Thank you for the continued support and have a nice week. ;)

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Home interactions: 0%
Scene A: 10%
Scene B: 10%
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Thanks for sharing this!
Man, I was really hoping to see Ivy again in the next update, and what do you know? Mutant faction is returning in v0.08!

Really stoked for this. :love:

Hopefully we get more heartwarming scenes like this:
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some have said they would prefer more "feeling" in them. ........fewer, but longer, more intense and realistic NSFW scenes
I like this idea. Especially if they include Smooth High Quality Animation.
 
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Thanks for sharing this!
Man, I was really hoping to see Ivy again in the next update, and what do you know? Mutant faction is returning in v0.08!

Really stoked for this. :love:

Hopefully we get more heartwarming scenes like this:
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i'm also hopeing for more of that, its one of my favorite scenes.
 
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Raven Winterborn

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X0R Apologies for the mention. Wanted to point out the NOPY link for the android version appears to be dead assuming i'm not a complete idiot in case it's something on my end.

Link in question (the other links are fine):

I tried downloading it on my phone, computer, and Jdownloader and none of them worked.
 

Kellermann

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Anyway, I'm looking forward to the focus being more on longer but fewer sex scenes. Improved sex scenes would easily make this my all time favorite porn game ;)
I'm willing to give it a shot, but I think I would prefer both, rather than a 180 reversal. I wouldn't mind some longer, more meaningful lewd scenes with characters such as Shani or the Queen, but I'd hate to lose getting more of those fun, shorter scenes at the household. And I certainly would miss having the option to sex up random side characters that you meet and/or defeat when out roaming the wastelands. I love that part of the game. Please MC, don't turn face on me now. Being a heel is so much fun in this setting!

The repeatable, harem lewd scenes at home were a good decision from a design perspective. They allow for some shorter but enjoyable interactions that are available anytime, even if a particular episode's production needs to focus on story building a little more heavily than on new lewd scenes. But I really hope they keep adding more home interactions throughout the life of the game. As stated above, they are a great part of the story and you can add little by little without having to worry about creating a massive, animated sequence every time.
 

JJJ84

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i'm also hopeing for more of that, its one of my favorite scenes.
(currently out of reactions, due to reaching daily limit)
Yeah, it's one of my favorite scenes too.

Her face is so cute, and the whole eyes iris color changing depending on her emotions was a real nice touch.
 

disC0rdia

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Well, here some of my impressions about this game/VN:
Usually 'free roaming' = grind and loose immersion. But not here. The way the menus are implemented (not too much clicking & showing, where story will progress) is really well done.
(In most games/VNs you have to click 10 times, to just get out of the house, and then, once you reach the right place, you are there at the wrong time and have to wait&click again over 10000 times - really, immersion is something different)
The setting is also very coherent and fits to the rough options you can choose - especially that the MC is not some weakling and none of the super-talkative considerate MCs which you unfortunately see in many other stories (where is doesn't fit the darker plot/environment).

All in all: really good, keep just going on.
 

JJJ84

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I'm willing to give it a shot, but I think I would prefer both, rather than a 180 reversal. I wouldn't mind some longer, more meaningful lewd scenes with characters such as Shani or the Queen, but I'd hate to lose getting more of those fun, shorter scenes at the household. And I certainly would miss having the option to sex up random side characters that you meet and/or defeat when out roaming the wastelands. I love that part of the game. Please MC, don't turn face on me now. Being a heel is so much fun in this setting!

The repeatable, harem lewd scenes at home were a good decision from a design perspective. They allow for some shorter but enjoyable interactions that are available anytime, even if a particular episode's production needs to focus on story building a little more heavily than on new lewd scenes. But I really hope they keep adding more home interactions throughout the life of the game. As stated above, they are a great part of the story and you can add little by little without having to worry about creating a massive, animated sequence every time.
I think characters such as Shani, Ivy, the Queen definitely need longer and meaningful sex scenes when they eventually happen (though I guess, regarding the Queen, while she's slow burn like the other 2 girls, it's mostly due to the sort of cat and mouse relationship between MC and her, rather than the big emotional payoff that I think are the primary factors for Shani & Ivy).

Character like Zahra (the wife), I guess my thought on her having such scenes are, I guess 50/50. For her to have such a scene, I guess it might work if it's a special occasion? Such as her promise to make a memorable night (or something along those lines) with MC when Shani returns from the Zone?

Sweet girl like Kateryna probably deserves a long and meaningful lewd/sex scene too.
The slave girl, while I wouldn't say is necessary, my personal feeling is that I'd want her to have long and meaningful lewds too (guess she's similar to Zahra's position for me).

Oh what the hell. Let's just give all girls long and meaningful lewd/sex scenes. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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Dev update 10.10.2021

Shani heading to the Zone is a necessary step for the main plot (which is slowly being introduced), but it is also vital for her character arc, so it may feel like we're stretching the plot at times, or leaving it to the side, when we really are not.
In short, the main story telling is tied to some of the character arcs and vice versa.

But overall those scenes I depicted are very short, and some have said they would prefer more "feeling" in them. So, what I'm trying to do this time around (you can let me know whether you like it or not) is to have fewer, but longer, more intense and realistic NSFW scenes. It stands to reason that characters that the players have been waiting for for a long time (the Queen for instance), should get a solid scene as a payload eventually, and not a handful of renders and a short animation. The plan is for this to include a few more animations, but we will see how that pans out.
Thanks for sharing!

Furthering the plot and character arcs is all well and good, but hope Shani will still have interactions with MC. Likewise, longer more intense and realistic NSFW scenes would be be a great reward after much story and character development, but IMO the frequent albiet brief sexual content is a part of what makes this game great.

With Shani for example, I know it will be a while before MC gets to finally bed her, but interactions like the massage scene keep me interested and help build the tension and anticipation. Too long without some kind of lewding of Shani would be a negative for me. Also, the free use aspect of this game is a big plus for me, and I feel this may be lost with the switch in approach.

I'm willing to give it a shot, but I think I would prefer both, rather than a 180 reversal. I wouldn't mind some longer, more meaningful lewd scenes with characters such as Shani or the Queen, but I'd hate to lose getting more of those fun, shorter scenes at the household. And I certainly would miss having the option to sex up random side characters that you meet and/or defeat when out roaming the wastelands. I love that part of the game. Please MC, don't turn face on me now. Being a heel is so much fun in this setting!

The repeatable, harem lewd scenes at home were a good decision from a design perspective. They allow for some shorter but enjoyable interactions that are available anytime, even if a particular episode's production needs to focus on story building a little more heavily than on new lewd scenes. But I really hope they keep adding more home interactions throughout the life of the game. As stated above, they are a great part of the story and you can add little by little without having to worry about creating a massive, animated sequence every time.
What he said
 
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gov112

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Can anybody tell me when version 0.8 will be released
I've never been this impatient for an update
this game is one of a kind
 
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I agree with the guy who said he wants both short and long scenes. Long scenes are important for character development, but short, more lighthearted scenes are crucial in sandbox games for maintaining pacing and keeping the player interested in a character. It happens often in other games that characters feel abandoned when they don't get even a short interaction for a couple updates in a row.
 

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I always think it's lame if you have to look up a walkthrough to see whether the dev prefers you to give the girl a banana or a coconut which will determine whether she opens up to you or not, or letting the player wait for 1,5 years to see any action with any girls at all. So we have used a variety of both quick action and long winded character romances.
Amen. I like the clear cutting, non-nonsense attitude towards opposite sex in this game. In too many games you have to build romance by taking girl to shopping mall and play bullshit games to get laid. In this world life is short and cheap, the winners gain all and losers lose everything. There is no mercy, and slaver is gentle if feeds you and doesn't sell you to the mines.
 

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NSFW scenes

The other thing I want to address is the length of the NSFW scenes, their quantity and quality with regards to animations.

As I have said before, I want to try something new in this update. So far, we've had a solid number of scenes with girls, some immediately after meeting them (Fangs, Nadia), and some where what might happen or not is still up in the air (Ivy, Shani).

I always think it's lame if you have to look up a walkthrough to see whether the dev prefers you to give the girl a banana or a coconut which will determine whether she opens up to you or not, or letting the player wait for 1,5 years to see any action with any girls at all. So we have used a variety of both quick action and long winded character romances.

But overall those scenes I depicted are very short, and some have said they would prefer more "feeling" in them. So, what I'm trying to do this time around (you can let me know whether you like it or not) is to have fewer, but longer, more intense and realistic NSFW scenes. It stands to reason that characters that the players have been waiting for for a long time (the Queen for instance), should get a solid scene as a payload eventually, and not a handful of renders and a short animation. The plan is for this to include a few more animations, but we will see how that pans out.

So... that's it for now, let me know if you like the occasional peek behind the curtains, or if your reaction is more like "cool story dev, when update".

Thank you for the continued support and have a nice week. ;)
That was pretty much my only complaint with the game, to me, most of the sex scenes were pretty underwhelming so I'm glad to read we'll get some longer scenes in the future.

The only other thing I'd like to see is to have some of the characters, especially those close to the MC, show a bit more emotions and feelings.
 
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Besides the things you mentioned Didja follow Ivy to the bunker and go to town and take a walk with your niece? Did you talk to all of your family and exhaust the subjects? If so you're probably at the end of all the content til next update
yes sorry was trying to not give away too many spoilers. but I have already done niece scene in market, the bunker scene, queen dungeon scene, Fairy in basement(buggy nice path), and car pick up scene. So thanks guessing maybe am at end until next update since nothing pops up no matter what else I try. I did the Merchants quest as well as inviting them to house and showing her around.
 
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