whichone

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"Civil" and "online forum"... someone show me where this has ever happened...

whichone might sometimes be overbearing, but he does try to be 'correct' from a defensible argument basis.

Whether he hits the ignore button in time or not is a different matter ;P
I can recognise that as a valid criticism. (y)
I try to not attack people & instead attack their arguments, when they're contrary to established facts.
There's generally not any need for hostility, just because people don't agree with each other.
I don't think I have anyone on ignore. You're probably correct that I should begin using that functionality. :ROFLMAO:
 
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do we know which girls are supposed to be getting the spotlight for 0.8? I think I read that it'll follow Shani a bit?
Well Shani is finally going to the Zone, which she has been preparing all this time, so yeah. I'm guess we'll have control of Shani in the next update.
So which means we probably won't skin-to-skin time with her until she gets back.

Which is understandable, really like her slow-burn in progress that I think will be very worthwhile, and the whole "She's my successor so it's Taboo!!" factor just adds to her appeal.
 

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Which is understandable, really like her slow-burn in progress that I think will be very worthwhile, and the whole "She's my successor so it's Taboo!!" factor just adds to her appeal.
This. Absolutely, 100% this. (y)
I also like the fact that her younger sister is there to offset the slow-burn aspect.
A man has needs. Provocation heightens/intensifies them. :ROFLMAO:
 
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This. Absolutely, 100% this. (y)
I also like the fact that her younger sister is there to offset the slow-burn aspect.
Tbh I don't love Ain as much as Shani or Zahra (I mean I don't hate her, just like the other two more I guess), but one thing is for sure. After Shani, my favorite character in the game is definitely Ivy (the elf).

With Shani gone from home, I'm hoping Ivy will have some more screentime (it's been a while since MC last visited the mutant underground too), but who knows what will happen.
 
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Tbh I don't love Ain as much as Shani or Zahra (I mean I don't hate her, just like the other two more I guess), but one thing is for sure. After Shani, my favorite character in the game is definitely Ivy (the elf).

With Shani gone from home, I'm hoping Ivy will have some more screentime (it's been a while since MC last visited the mutant underground too), but who knows what will happen.
I totally get where you're coming from. I don't either.
I think it's possibly because she doesn't have as much character depth, yet.
But, with Shani being unattainable yet highly desirable, gotta get a release, so here's Ain! ;)
Poor girl, feel bad now. :ROFLMAO:

lol I certainly would not be adverse to Ivy getting more screen time!
 
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I totally get where you're coming from. I don't either.
I think it's possibly because she doesn't have as much character depth, yet.
But, with Shani being unattainable yet highly desirable, gotta get a release, so here's Ain! ;)
Poor girl, feel bad now. :ROFLMAO:

lol I certainly would not be adverse to Ivy getting more screen time!
I think while Shani is on her mission, MC and Ain will have the alone time she was asking about an episode or two ago. She indicated she wanted some perhaps non-lewd togetherness (what the hell is that? :giggle: ) outside the household. I felt kind of bad because right after she said that heartfelt line, I took her into the living room area and molested her. :whistle: That shameful loss of my self control aside, I think Ain is looking forward to some quality F/D time without Shani around...that sibling rivalry is heating up! Shani is my favourite, but if she is going to be gone for an entire episode, then I'll need something (or someone) to occupy my time and if anyone can take my mind off of my wayfaring Shani, then Ain is the one. More Ivy would be nice too. Hell, I like all of them. Not a bad lady in the game. (y)
 

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I think while Shani is on her mission, MC and Ain will have the alone time she was asking about an episode or two ago. She indicated she wanted some perhaps non-lewd togetherness (what the hell is that? :giggle: ) outside the household. I felt kind of bad because right after she said that heartfelt line, I took her into the living room area and molested her. :whistle: That shameful loss of my self control aside,
Nothing shameful about it mate! I think you're perfectly entitled to lose control & that's kinda Ain's purpose atm, to relieve you when it builds up. :ROFLMAO:
I think Ain is looking forward to some quality F/D time without Shani around...that sibling rivalry is heating up! Shani is my favourite, but if she is going to be gone for an entire episode, then I'll need something (or someone) to occupy my time and if anyone can take my mind off of my wayfaring Shani, then Ain is the one.
I thought I remembered reference to her getting more development, something hinted at.
Thanks for reminding me what it was! I'm definitely looking forward to that.
The three main girls are all lovely, I share the preference of Shani, but Ain's definitely the one who needs more fleshing out. (y)
More Ivy would be nice too. Hell, I like all of them. Not a bad lady in the game. (y)
Yeah, cannot disagree with this. I hope they all get a bit more character development. For that you can read "time with the MC"! ;):ROFLMAO:
 

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More watersports and preggo action would be awesome... just saying.

I can not wait for more.

Also it's nice that the devs consider this a porn game. My original issue is labeling all adult vns as porn games. That is totally dismissing a lot of vns and their content.
 

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I felt kind of bad because right after she said that heartfelt line, I took her into the living room area and molested her. :whistle: That shameful loss of my self control aside, I think Ain is looking forward to some quality F/D time without Shani around...that sibling rivalry is heating up!
Molest implies that Ain was not willing.
 
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Molest implies that Ain was not willing.
I mean, what are her options really?

Actually some lore about that in the ingame library would be interesting. It's a little confusing how there are sex slaves in Zeta, but all women seem to be free use anyway, unless they're married. There are priestesses specifically used for breeding, but it seems like slaves also get impregnated all the time anyway.
Then there's dialogue with Ain about how she's supposed to get married off to a different household, but only if she wants to, but she's also collared like a slave and can be shared with guests (really hoping for more of this btw!). Daughters of other households, like Nadia for example, aren't collared, so it's a little hard to tell the difference between Ain and the slaves.
 

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Dev update 10.10.2021

Today's dev update is going to be a bit longer, since it was pretty much a year ago when I started drawing the first two characters, Shani and Ain. I want to give you guys more insight on what you can expect from future updates. Without spoilers, I will explain how the gameplay is going to be structured, and how this ties to all the characters we have made so far. If you're not so interested in that, you may skip the following, for everyone else: enjoy this wall of text :p.

As I said it has been a year into delevopment so far, and we have started a lot of different character arcs, hinting at individual stories. We also said that there is a main plot that we need to build up first. Because we have many characters, there are only so many stories or gameplay features we can expand on in each update. The harem and more upcoming free roam mechanics are one thing, necessary story beats and quests, another.

Story and characters

As you have seen so far, when playing alongside certain characters, they each have their own ways of interacting with the MC and, while you almost always have two paths on how to treat a girl, there are natural limitations to the role each character can take (for now). While you can expect more action oriented, bloody and sociopathic content with the Raider sisters, you will get opportunities for more romantic and down-to-earth events with Kateryna.

That doesn't mean there won't ever be a romance option with Asha at the end, as we're not ruling anything out, but the focus is on being a Raider and, well... being a jackass.

How things will be structured:

In 0.5 we introduced the different factions which will play an important role in the story (depending on whether you help them or not) and, as you can see, the mutants will be relevant again in 0.08 (provided you didn't let Ivy die).

Each faction will have dedicated quests, which will, comprehensively, tie into the main quest. Those faction quests will (over time) come in the form of new locations from where you can freely select the missions, but more on that in future updates.

While the game's overal story arc does not revolve around the girls and how to date them, like many other games do, they are obviously still a strong element of the plot and the game itself, so that even those "story focused" events will sometimes be about developing and giving insight into a character, like you saw in the arena event with the Queen. This is so because these characters will be relevant to said over arching plot.

Shani heading to the Zone is a necessary step for the main plot (which is slowly being introduced), but it is also vital for her character arc, so it may feel like we're stretching the plot at times, or leaving it to the side, when we really are not.
In short, the main story telling is tied to some of the character arcs and vice versa.

NSFW scenes

The other thing I want to address is the length of the NSFW scenes, their quantity and quality with regards to animations.

As I have said before, I want to try something new in this update. So far, we've had a solid number of scenes with girls, some immediately after meeting them (Fangs, Nadia), and some where what might happen or not is still up in the air (Ivy, Shani).

I always think it's lame if you have to look up a walkthrough to see whether the dev prefers you to give the girl a banana or a coconut which will determine whether she opens up to you or not, or letting the player wait for 1,5 years to see any action with any girls at all. So we have used a variety of both quick action and long winded character romances.

But overall those scenes I depicted are very short, and some have said they would prefer more "feeling" in them. So, what I'm trying to do this time around (you can let me know whether you like it or not) is to have fewer, but longer, more intense and realistic NSFW scenes. It stands to reason that characters that the players have been waiting for for a long time (the Queen for instance), should get a solid scene as a payload eventually, and not a handful of renders and a short animation. The plan is for this to include a few more animations, but we will see how that pans out.

So... that's it for now, let me know if you like the occasional peek behind the curtains, or if your reaction is more like "cool story dev, when update".

Thank you for the continued support and have a nice week. ;)

Progress:
Home interactions: 0%
Scene A: 10%
Scene B: 10%
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It's a little confusing how there are sex slaves in Zeta, but all women seem to be free use anyway, unless they're married.
"Free use" isn't what I'd call it. The MC is the head of his household, which gives him carte blanche over the women therein. His occupation as a desert stalker also gives him quite a bit of social status. Enough to dispense street justice and call out another slave owner for being undeserving of the privilege but not to the point of say freely molesting women of other households.
 

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I mean, what are her options really?

Actually some lore about that in the ingame library would be interesting. It's a little confusing how there are sex slaves in Zeta, but all women seem to be free use anyway, unless they're married. There are priestesses specifically used for breeding, but it seems like slaves also get impregnated all the time anyway.
Then there's dialogue with Ain about how she's supposed to get married off to a different household, but only if she wants to, but she's also collared like a slave and can be shared with guests (really hoping for more of this btw!). Daughters of other households, like Nadia for example, aren't collared, so it's a little hard to tell the difference between Ain and the slaves.
I assume that Ain wouldn't have her role as living sex toy if she wasn't willing. Sure, they probably have different views regarding consent than we do, and she was perhaps raised with the idea that her role was to pleasure others, but there's no reason to believe that she is forced to. That's the difference between her and a slave. Even when it comes to pleasuring others when her father tells her to, I assume this is something she has implicitly consented to, i.e. it wouldn't happen if she had expressed being against the idea.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the focus being more on longer but fewer sex scenes. Improved sex scenes would easily make this my all time favorite porn game ;)
 

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I assume this is something she has implicitly consented to, i.e. it wouldn't happen if she had expressed being against the idea.
Agree with the difference between Ain & a slave.
Also agree that it possibly wouldn't have happened, if she'd expressed any objection.

But I'm not sure that her simply having not expressed any objection to it happening, is the same as consenting to it happening.
Not saying "No!", is not the same as saying "Yes", in all fairness.
As you say, different culture - different rules, but all the same.

As for her not being forced to, she's certainly been groomed to.
 
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