Ren'Py Abandoned Devil In Your Eyes [v0.05.3] [Graphicus Rex]

[GraphicusRex]

Man, I like this game, but this update opens with a dream sequence, followed by the option of watching other people go at it, and they've introduced a hidden objects minigame? It's like the devs made a laundry list of all the thing I'm least interested in.

Maybe if I play a bit further I get to file my taxes as well.

(I'm being facetious, but really would appreciate not having to make decisions about Aubrey and Sabrina's relationship. What business is that of the MC's.)

Ideally, the Free Roam section would never have come into existence and we would have reserved that style of gameplay for sections where it actually gave you real, substantial choices to make, but when we first started making the game, we just kind of assumed it'd pay off. First game errors, y'know? Adding the hidden items bullshit is an attempt to make it feel just a little less empty and soulless, and besides, it felt wrong to me that we had all this art for these characters just sitting around unused. Bing bang boom, two birds with one stone.

Don't know if this has been reported before, but loading my save from 0.04, the variable d4_conclusion was set at 0. Loading a save from just before the final choice of day 4 and going through it again set it correctly to 2.

I don't have the previous version to hand so can't check if that's an error in the previous build or if my save had gone wonky.

Also, the scene with Harris looks for the conditions if d5_mac_fuck_count > 0 and d5_mac_closet == True (line 2722), but d5_mac_fuck_count never gets set even if you do fuck Mackenzie at work so there's currently no way to have that conversation with Harris. (Now that I look for it, that variable gets checked a couple of other times as well.)

There's a couple more typos during the news segment in the free roam.

Spoiler: Mrs Mayor, please spell organized

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Also also, the dialogue for getting head from Leah in the morning (d5_leah_road_head) doesn't seem to get set properly, registering as False when it's checked during the wrestling.

The fact that the 0.04 save didn't work right is no surprise to me. We fiddled with some variables between then and now, mainly because things earlier on needed tracking on Day 5 that I hadn't planned for. The other issues, however...

Oganized Crime has been dealt with.
Leah Road Head resolved.
Not sure what's slipping you up with Mac though. The d5_mac_fuck_count tracks sex you've had with her prior to Day 5, and it seems to be working right just looking at the code. You need to have had sex with her at least once before getting there and had sex with her in the closet that day in order to clue in Harris. I'll give it a playthrough this weekend and see if I'm missing anything. Regardless, thanks for pointing those out!

-Coding Guy​

 

[GraphicusRex]

Also also also, I note that the conversation with Aubrey in the evening where the player gets to decide if she prefers being dominant or submissive seems like it should have some significance, but doesn't currently set any variables. Don't know if that's working as intended.

THERE. That's EXACTLY the sort of crucial fork in the road that I should set a variable for and then get distracted by fucking Elden Ring finally coming out and ignore. Much appreciated.

-Coding Guy​

 

[GraphicusRex]

I do not put this in the reviews section because i want people have chance to respond to the unusual way i see this artwork.

First thing. The VN show a diversity and try to be realist in the representation of the woman body. This change to the usual unrealistic big boobs.

What i like is not the lewd stuff. We are not in the porn world here. This is a really solid story. Graphicus Rex is a good story teller. For this reason. I do not put this game in the porn category but in literacy. The focus is in story and not porn. This is a quality for me.

Other good point is the realism. Realism in relationship and graphical representation. Any unrealistic fantasy. The characters act like adult with respect.

Have few point in the story i like more development now. But is not my story and the developper tell her the way he want.

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Sure this is not perfect. But after each release i still want to know what coming next. I'm hungry for what coming in next release. This is a good clue.

I tell to Graphicus Rex to do is jobs like i do it actually. Just do not add a new plot and do nothing with her.

I give him without doubt the author title. Because the strong story he give to us. We have a quality work here. It should be emphasized

I love this. Really, thank you. F95 is great and all, but if there was a site that hosted games that were mostly awkward crime dramas with just a lil' bit of hard core penetration smut on the side? That would be choice.

-Coding Guy​

 

[GraphicusRex]

Man, I like this game, but this update opens with a dream sequence, followed by the option of watching other people go at it, and they've introduced a hidden objects minigame? It's like the devs made a laundry list of all the thing I'm least interested in.

Maybe if I play a bit further I get to file my taxes as well.

(I'm being facetious, but really would appreciate not having to make decisions about Aubrey and Sabrina's relationship. What business is that of the MC's.)

Oh, one last thing - we're trying to make the game's focus a bit less on MC as the only main character (yeah, yeah, I know. It's right there in his name.) and giving Aubrey a bit more agency. While some players hate it and we understand why, we really prefer not having the point of view of the game locked down on one character. Having Aubrey (and occasionally others) in the pilot seat a bit more just feels like a really useful way to tell this story.

-Coding Guy​

 

[gregers]

Not sure what's slipping you up with Mac though. The d5_mac_fuck_count tracks sex you've had with her prior to Day 5, and it seems to be working right just looking at the code. You need to have had sex with her at least once before getting there and had sex with her in the closet that day in order to clue in Harris. I'll give it a playthrough this weekend and see if I'm missing anything. Regardless, thanks for pointing those out!

Ah, I assumed it was a counter for that day rather than up to. Obviously it's been a while since I last played this, but I'm pretty sure I remember having the previous scenes with her, so something may have been hinky. But glancing at the current version of day 4, I can see the variable getting set right enough, so at least it shouldn't be an issue for new players.

Oh, one last thing - we're trying to make the game's focus a bit less on MC as the only main character (yeah, yeah, I know. It's right there in his name.) and giving Aubrey a bit more agency. While some players hate it and we understand why, we really prefer not having the point of view of the game locked down on one character. Having Aubrey (and occasionally others) in the pilot seat a bit more just feels like a really useful way to tell this story.

-Coding Guy​

Obviously that's up to you and what you feel best serves the story.

I can only speak for myself in that when I play a game I don't really care to make decisions for anyone else; e.g. in this chapter, I don't give a monkey's whether Sabrina and Aubrey end up having sex or not (as long as the MC isn't a creepy little shit about it): I'd much rather trust the developer to make that choice however they think best for the game. That's just me though, and you should make your game in whatever way you prefer.

Edit: On my playthrough I didn't have Aubrey and Sabrina's scene, but I just looked it up out of curiosity and the MC comes across as the worst kind of pathetic creep during it: If I'd played that path, I'd have appreciated a choice there whether to spy on them or not.

 

[Azsouth]

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[gregers]

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No. I mean, obviously we don't know exactly what happens, but there are no alternate routes there.

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

Sounds like you're enjoying the game at least

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I do like the game. I especially like McKenzie. She's carrying the game pretty hard right now, although Sheena was a reasonably close second until she asked if I wanted to go to a swinger's club with her. I somehow overlooked Rachel initially (I likely didn't want to be rude to Leah because our character was pretty shitty to her in the past), but after choosing Rachel's path on a new playthrough, she's now the only serious competition for the detective at the moment.

Although, if I were totally honest, there's a good chance I'd bang the mayor if the right opportunity arose. She's really hot, and I think that there is the potential there for a bit of a humorous situation where she could corner us somewhere and we could bait her into trying to turn us straight to see if she's still got it. Brutus would die of laughter if we were to pull something like that off.

One bit of constructive criticism I have for the game is that I've noticed that some of McKenzie's sex scenes were rather abrupt in the way they started and finished. The first scene was great. The build up had her pose for you clothed, then topless, then a couple fully naked shots of her standing then lying down. And afterwards she was still naked while talking to you on the bed, so there was a bit of wind down as well.

The second scene was the one where Aubrey spies on you, and it didn't have any of those warm up poses. One frame you're both standing up while fully clothed, and then the next shot is of the two of you fully naked as she is riding you on the couch. They just teleport over there right into the middle of things. Then they talk a bit afterwards while she's still naked on top of you (which is hot), and then they both return to their original positions. (It also looks like the detective is shown in the reflections on the windows in the background but you aren't.)

The third scene is the parking lot one, which started and stopped so fast that it felt like a daydream. McKenzie is shown with her eyes closed in both the image before and the image after the sex animations, and she's framed the same way too, and it's easy to miss the background change, so all of those things added up to make me pause and wonder if the sex actually happened. The animations were really hot, but the way they just teleport into the middle of sex and then right back out again was very jarring.

The latest scene was at the station, and while there's no shot of her getting undressed, there is a background change to show that they went into another room, and also the dialogue acts as a bridge to the upcoming animation. The shot of her naked with her clothes strewn on the table was a good way to ramp things down once the sex ended, and it kept the scene running smoothly. It also gave us one the hottest pictures of McKenzie so far, so that's a big plus too.

So those are my thoughts on why it's important to have a few renders that form a bit of a build up and a cool down to the intimate scenes. Without them, the player can get pulled out of the game for a moment. It's also just really enjoyable to have some anticipation and afterglow shots.

 

[Canto Forte]

This is where playing as other characters kills this game. We follow kelly as he murders people and as MC
we get the brute force of that kind of plot armor he is sporting.

We follow girls as MC and we want genuinely the best choices for them,
but when the perspective changes, they are double crossing two faced about MC,
aub is the poster skank girls for that: using MC to boost her morale, to do a good deed,
but when MC is actually a hurting human being trying to get closer to a single sweetie,
she gets her claws out and all we get is shanna assuming we bang, because we live together,
the pantiless daddy issues babe is having one ear full after another from aub about us,
everyone is on MC like he hit the jack pot, while MC is tagged a creep for trying to get closer to aub.

Aub is not shy about needing a good hard fkk, MC is starving for affection,
but all there is in the two days MC is in town is a cold winter, frozen hearts, predatorial hook up man eaters.

That works for literally springing MC into any and all girls he meets, he is spiraling out of control,
kelly is a bad person antagonizing aub and de facto controlling her business,
the mayor is a bitch actively looking to hurt her, to which we are shown how people who only know aub
for a day, if at all, like sabrina, get into her pants, kelly fukking the detective after treating her like shit,
while MC is given sub zero karma and thrown into the trash bin for a lot less.

Best girls are and always will be mac, sheena and the bar tending hottie.
Their wonderful theatrics are mindblowing.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

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Don't worry :

 

[underoath27]

I'm playing with WT Mod, GraphicusRex can you tell me if going for friendship will "friendzone" my MC and how karma will affect? Because there are some lust relationship but so far I saw an option that goes for lust but gives -3 karma.

 

[Pinsel]

Just a heads-up: we've gotten a few bugs fixed in the last 24 hours and plan to drop a bugfix release this weekend:

* Day 5 breakfast, Leah says "repuation" instead of "reputation"
* Day 5 afternoon, game crashes while talking with Renee about Sarah
* Day 5 evening, Greenley inexplicably beats you up even if you never touched Joyce
* Day 5 news report, Mayor can't say "organized"
* Day 5 car blowjob doesn't register correctly

If you find any other issues while playing, let us know and we'll get those as well.

-Coding Guy​

I dont now is it reportet already. But i turned Lea down and go with Rachel at the Club. But in the new update i was waking up with Leah, with i have zero interesst in.

here my save:

 

[GraphicusRex]

on the one hand i like the interaction between Charlene and MC. overall not bad. i didnt like how you couldn't choose how to respond to any of the girls during the intro scene to the mayor and the other girls. Maggie was a surprisingly hot model. dont really see alot of character pull off that haircut. usually its used for some thugish girl. but a business type look...it works for me.

sadly though this is probably where i drop the game. i was annoyed with the Non-MC sex scenes, ok fine they happened but all it did was remove those two girls as characters i was interested so i moved on.

i just didnt like the ending to this update. Killing MC's friends just tends to be a tad too far for my tastes in VN's.

Granted he was just above the barely knew her part of a friendship. but idk it just showed this game could get darker i suppose and that's it not for me i guess.

overall it wasnt a bad ride and i still wish you luck.

That sucks that we lost you, man. I hope at some point you come back and give it another look. I'm trying to strike a balance between dark and not dark. There is a crime factor, so it isn't going to be all rainbows. I fully understand where you're coming from. Again, hopefully in the future you give it another shot.

ReturnofPoncho

 

[GraphicusRex]

Man, I like this game, but this update opens with a dream sequence, followed by the option of watching other people go at it, and they've introduced a hidden objects minigame? It's like the devs made a laundry list of all the thing I'm least interested in.

Maybe if I play a bit further I get to file my taxes as well.

(I'm being facetious, but really would appreciate not having to make decisions about Aubrey and Sabrina's relationship. What business is that of the MC's.)

I get that you might not want to make decisions based on other characters, but for those two, it effects stuff down the line. As well if the player/mc wants more stuff to happen between the two, kinda wanted the player to make the choice if they do or not.

ReturnofPoncho

 

[GraphicusRex]

I do like the game. I especially like McKenzie. She's carrying the game pretty hard right now, although Sheena was a reasonably close second until she asked if I wanted to go to a swinger's club with her. I somehow overlooked Rachel initially (I likely didn't want to be rude to Leah because our character was pretty shitty to her in the past), but after choosing Rachel's path on a new playthrough, she's now the only serious competition for the detective at the moment.

Although, if I were totally honest, there's a good chance I'd bang the mayor if the right opportunity arose. She's really hot, and I think that there is the potential there for a bit of a humorous situation where she could corner us somewhere and we could bait her into trying to turn us straight to see if she's still got it. Brutus would die of laughter if we were to pull something like that off.

One bit of constructive criticism I have for the game is that I've noticed that some of McKenzie's sex scenes were rather abrupt in the way they started and finished. The first scene was great. The build up had her pose for you clothed, then topless, then a couple fully naked shots of her standing then lying down. And afterwards she was still naked while talking to you on the bed, so there was a bit of wind down as well.

The second scene was the one where Aubrey spies on you, and it didn't have any of those warm up poses. One frame you're both standing up while fully clothed, and then the next shot is of the two of you fully naked as she is riding you on the couch. They just teleport over there right into the middle of things. Then they talk a bit afterwards while she's still naked on top of you (which is hot), and then they both return to their original positions. (It also looks like the detective is shown in the reflections on the windows in the background but you aren't.)

The third scene is the parking lot one, which started and stopped so fast that it felt like a daydream. McKenzie is shown with her eyes closed in both the image before and the image after the sex animations, and she's framed the same way too, and it's easy to miss the background change, so all of those things added up to make me pause and wonder if the sex actually happened. The animations were really hot, but the way they just teleport into the middle of sex and then right back out again was very jarring.

The latest scene was at the station, and while there's no shot of her getting undressed, there is a background change to show that they went into another room, and also the dialogue acts as a bridge to the upcoming animation. The shot of her naked with her clothes strewn on the table was a good way to ramp things down once the sex ended, and it kept the scene running smoothly. It also gave us one the hottest pictures of McKenzie so far, so that's a big plus too.

So those are my thoughts on why it's important to have a few renders that form a bit of a build up and a cool down to the intimate scenes. Without them, the player can get pulled out of the game for a moment. It's also just really enjoyable to have some anticipation and afterglow shots.

It's worth considering to do more wind up and then wind down, just kinda depends on the situation. For the bar scene, there was a little bit of a ramp up when they were downstairs talking and the MC egged her on. Probably could have been more once they got to the upstairs bar and did their thing. So something to think about going forward. I do like your idea about the Mayor.....it does seem like an interesting one

ReturnofPoncho

 

[GraphicusRex]

I dont now is it reportet already. But i turned Lea down and go with Rachel at the Club. But in the new update i was waking up with Leah, with i have zero interesst in.

here my save:

This is a weird one. The mechanism that determines who you went out with the night before is really simple and has worked for everyone else, but I checked your save and it's definitely switching things up on you.

Have you started a new game, or are you using a save file from the 0.04.x days? It's possible that some of the changes we made between versions are fouling things up. Try that, and if it's still hitting you with Leah after a night out with Rachel, let me know and I'll give it a second examination.

-Coding Guy​

 

[GraphicusRex]

I'm playing with WT Mod, GraphicusRex can you tell me if going for friendship will "friendzone" my MC and how karma will affect? Because there are some lust relationship but so far I saw an option that goes for lust but gives -3 karma.

Heh. Honestly, all these mods that allow you to see the exact stat impact of your choices aren't going to help you get the "best" route, not really. The stats impact the game, but they're only part of it. The other choices you make along the way influence things as well. If you're just playing it with the goal of getting the highest possible numbers, I can't promise you you'll see all the game's content. In fact, some scenes require you to make idiotic moves and foul things up.

Karma isn't anything that you should worry too much about. My intent is for karma to affect your good and bad luck on occasion, but it never really matters in a major way. As for the MC_Friendship_[Girl] stats, they do not "Friendzone" you. All the stats except for [Girl]_Creep are generally positive for you.

-Coding Guy​

 

[underoath27]

Heh. Honestly, all these mods that allow you to see the exact stat impact of your choices aren't going to help you get the "best" route, not really. The stats impact the game, but they're only part of it. The other choices you make along the way influence things as well. If you're just playing it with the goal of getting the highest possible numbers, I can't promise you you'll see all the game's content. In fact, some scenes require you to make idiotic moves and foul things up.

Karma isn't anything that you should worry too much about. My intent is for karma to affect your good and bad luck on occasion, but it never really matters in a major way. As for the MC_Friendship_[Girl] stats, they do not "Friendzone" you. All the stats except for [Girl]_Creep are generally positive for you.

-Coding Guy​

Hmmm, got it! Thank you!

 

[GraphicusRex]

I dont now is it reportet already. But i turned Lea down and go with Rachel at the Club. But in the new update i was waking up with Leah, with i have zero interesst in.

here my save:

OH! Never mind, I found the issue. You managed to finish the Rachel event without having her like you enough

if rachel_lust + rachel_love > (rachel_creep + 2) * 2:

to trigger the menu that allows you to sleep with her at the end of Day 4. My advice? Try again and treat her a little better to get a MUCH more interesting conclusion to Day 4, then have the proper set of Day 5 events trigger.

As for the bug, it is now fixed. I'll be releasing a new update tomorrow. Thanks for the catch : )

-Coding Guy​

 

[jhustrue]

This game is quite good, but it would be really nice to have some sex talk, dialogue, descriptions, moans, or anything at all during sex scenes. The animations are pretty well done but it's like watching a gif and pretty disappointing without any flavor text to support them.