Snugglepuff

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What the actual Fuck, dude??? NONE of what I said was an insult!
Knee-jerk reaction much?

Didn't react as though you had. Pointed out that you were being disingenuous in your comment. It being intentional or otherwise is irrelevant. Also, simply showing not to make assumptions about what someone is and isn't aware of, in regards to both this dev team and the games, particularly based off a single post someone has made.

That you took what I said as some sort of aggressive response to a perceived attack was not my intent. Clearly others have responded to your writing like that before, but you shouldn't apply tone where there is none without the appropriate words or smileys. It'll save you a lot of unnecessary stress.

Yes, I did expand on what you had said.
No, expanding on what I said would have been limited to what I wrote about - The "copy/paste" reusing of old ideas from both abandoned and completed/on hold projects. You went beyond that.

I have a propensity toward being a bit verbose.
There's nothing wrong with being verbose per se, unless when verbose turns into tangential waffling, which you did dip into.



Some people, am I right?
No, you're not. You also falsely assign intent to something that didn't have that. That has been the biggest contributor to misunderstandings/miscommunications online. More than people falling for trolls.
Although trolling used to actually be something that took a modicum of intelligence and cunning, but now it's simply "hurr-durr, memes" as a standard.

I feel like the internet has stolen humans ability to kindly communicate in an articulate and empathic way.
No, people did that. They still do and always will.
Due in no small part to imagining written text as literal spoken word, and assuming it's in a specific tone of voice that it isn't, just because they didn't like the words... That alone has exploded into all sorts of overly-sensitive ranting/raving all on its own repeatedly. It's just now more visible due to shit-hole social media.
Add on to that years of tribalistic and political ideologies being motivating factors for the things people say, combined with an overall nosedive in people possessing common sense, and then you start to get to how we got to the point of less "articulate and empathetic". People stopped caring, because people were being selfish school kids in their 30's and 40's - that alone was within the last couple of decades, while the last 5-10 years took it from the online world, out into the real world to smash everyone over the head with.

Before the internet, it was gossip among cliques at all ages, about people of all ages, weaponising rumour and sadistic intent. All the internet did was allow it to happen between people of different nations at the stroke of a key.

IMO Aleistra is a really cool story premise, and the renders are good. Plus I havn't had any bugs playing it. Its liner and so likely much easier to code.
Its use as a major part of SL was good, and added "meat" to the story.
I'd say there's more a need for having an overall story outline, breaking the relevant parts up accordingly, and working on each important part... That's what looked like was happening, but hasn't really continued to bloom after SL's completion.

Djinn being a reboot of Shade and Sins of Her Father (one of the reasons given previously) that tied into SL is a good idea, but there hasn't been much directly linking characters/events yet.

As bizarre as it seems, both games have too much of a focus on the pornographic elements when compared to the story and world building, and that's sad to see.
 
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PapaPhat

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Knee-jerk reaction much?
You admit to not having read what I wrote and you have the unmitigated fucking gall to critique my writing and say that I am disingenuous? Looks like we are not getting past this one. Consider yourself ignored. I will not engage in a battle of wits with one so ill equipped, unarmed and too lazy to even read the material provided on which he comments.

Good bye
 

Snugglepuff

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You admit to not having read what I wrote and you have the unmitigated fucking gall to critique my writing and say that I am disingenuous?
I never said I hadn't read it. I said it was where I stopped reading.
The two things are not the same, and neither precludes reading past that point afterward.

Looks like we are not getting past this one.
You're not getting past it, because of your own ego.
It won't even let you see something neutral in nature, as being neutral. That's because you either continue to misinterpret simple statements of fact as attacks, or you just want my replies to be combative toward you and refuse to construe them in any other way.

Consider yourself ignored.
That's certainly your perogative.

I will not engage in a battle of wits with one so ill equipped, unarmed and too lazy to even read the material provided on which he comments.
Now you've shown the second instance of your own ego getting in your way. To the point that you've chose to leave yourself no choice but to resort to baseless insults to cover for the fragility of your ego.
By your own logic, you're the one who's ill equipped and unarmed to deal with me by any other means than throwing insults.
 

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Some people, am I right? I feel like the internet has stolen humans ability to kindly communicate in an articulate and empathic way.

Good on you Papa for having such tenacity to not let this age of narcissism and inflated ego ruin your ability to stay gentle. :)

As for the game, I agree this is a sad situation. I wish the dev would work out the bugs in summoners leg, and if they want other side projects, stick to KINETIC novels. IMO Aleistra is a really cool story premise, and the renders are good. Plus I havn't had any bugs playing it. Its liner and so likely much easier to code.

If Nunya, and Fallen A would just focus on 'upgrading' their dev abilities, by way of adding galleries, and fixing the bugs in Summoners leg then I feel like they'd be well on the path to success. Then, and only then they can learn how to make a game WORK. THEN they can make a masterpiece of a VN with choices and multiple endings.... It feels like they're rushing themselves and holding too lofty of expectations compared to their abilities. It's sad to see an artist hold themselves to unrealist standards compared to their current ability, instead of focusing on the journey and growing with the flow.
Thank you, my friend. It is good to see that someone got my point. I have had folks take things I have said the wrong way out of context before but I just didn't see what he was talking about. I am mace blunt honest in sharing my opinions and facts with no holds barred. I also attempt to present myself in a polite fashion as I mean no malice to anyone here or anywhere for that matter. I do, however, have no patience for naysayers who criticize others without even taking the time to read what that person wrote. That is just plain ignorant.

Anyway... I agree that this dev needs to work on their Ren'Py coding skills before attempting to make any more additional titles. Fix the bugs and errors in the work you already have, master how that is done and THEN move on. That has been my point all along. So yes, I agree. I had honestly said all I had to say on the subject already, earlier today. However, I did want to speak with you a moment as we seem to be on a similar wavelength. Have a great day, my friend.

Adventure ever on, Phat;)(y)
 

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It's entirely accurate.
Nope. Djinn, SohF, Summoners and Dominion all have a different introduction and exposition. For example, SohF has two Futa sisters and love/ domination stats. None of his other games shows that. Summoners makes the MC learn incantation and has demon realm scenes. That is not in any of his other games. Dominion has a male MC and booty calls. And so on, you can easily find more differences yourself. That the dev has reused old ideas and scene combinations i didn't deny - that' s why i wrote "within the boundaries of style and genre". It is not "entirely accurate " to focus on the similarities and neglect the differences.
 

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Valid question, friend... Answer in spoiler...
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Ah, thank you, glad to know atleast i wont have to go a whole route to see each scene, hope the dev actually finishes this one, since its a series now, given the first one was finished, might actually be a chance. Thank you for clarifying my question mate
 
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Ah, thank you, glad to know atleast i wont have to go a whole route to see each scene, hope the dev actually finishes this one, since its a series now, given the first one was finished, might actually be a chance. Thank you for clarifying my question mate
Yeah... I took a look at what happens to mom if you don't save her in one of the two ways I advised above. It's pretty fucked up IMHO... something I wouldn't wish on an enemy, let alone my beloved mother. Fuck that... but, my curiosity makes cats jealous so I just had to see... Now I can never un-see... The horror! The horror....
 
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Yeah... I took a look at what happens to mom if you don't save her in one of the two ways I advised above. It's pretty fucked up IMHO... something I wouldn't wish on an enemy, let alone my beloved mother. Fuck that... but, my curiosity makes cats jealous so I just had to see... Now I can never un-see... The horror! The horror....
Honestly that was the first time I ever laughed at someone getting NTR'd. Thats because up until now, I have never seen a futanari get NTR'd. Not gonna lie though, I think we need to see more futas get NTR'd by a dude or even a chick for that matter and thats ONLY because we don't see that happen often. Lets level the playing field a bit. I'd say more but Imma stop before I make A LOT of Konosuba references.
 
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Honestly that was the first time I ever laughed at someone getting NTR'd. Thats because up until now, I have never seen a futanari get NTR'd. Not gonna lie though, I think we need to see more futas get NTR'd by a dude or even a chick for that matter and thats ONLY because we don't see that happen often. Lets level the playing field a bit. I'd say more but Imma stop before I make A LOT of Konosuba references.
All I saw in those scenes was the horror that befell the mother. Anything that kid futa experienced from ntr was inconsequential IMHO.

I don't think in Hentai or anime terms. I am not a fan of most of that stuff. When it comes to erotic art, the more realistic the characters look, the more I like it. I do make exceptions for more graphic novel style art like Djinn and Winterlook Games. But, I do not like Japanese art unless it is more realistically rendered as clearly human to photo-realistically human. That pie eyed anime that makes all the characters look 12 years old is right out. I cannot stand it at all.

I still speak English. Always have, always will. It is how I think. All I saw was a kind and loving mother, brutally raped and beaten. That broke my heart... so I replayed it and saved having killed the fat, obnoxious gangster instead. Then I felt better about it...

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Hope that helps you see where I am coming from a bit better, my friend. Adventure ever on, Phat:devilish:(y)
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Not officially abandoned just yet but it may as well be. Rather than fix all of the bugs and glitches in Summoner's Legacy the dev just labeled it as completed to work on Djinn. Now Djinn is on hold and the dev is working on yet another title called Dominion with a male protagonist in place of the futa protagonists of Summoner's Legacy and Djinn. Dominion still has some futa content but it seems to be a side line rather than a main emphasis. This dev has developed a rather piss poor reputation for incomplete titles. Sins of her father and Daywalkers are both officially abandoned.

There are only two titles from this dev that remain in my active AVN files, both are short, kinetic AVN stories with no choices, Home Alone and Aleistra. If that is all this dev can manage without the constant errors then they should stick to that. I'm tired of the buggy messes they leave behind. I have tried several times to complete Summoner's Legacy, which is supposedly completed, mais non. I cannot finish it due to the vast number of bugs, glitches and errors. With every month that passes, I hold out even less hope for this title, Djinn. I love this art style and the quirky, kinky stories but the errors just keep mounting and never get fixed. I moved Summoner's Legacy and Djinn to b/u drives for now but if there is no move to improve SL or finish Djinn in the next few months... I'm just going to delete them both and forget the whole thing.

Hope that answers your question, my friend. I am disappointed as well...:rolleyes::oops:o_O

Adventure ever on, Phat:devilish:(y)
 
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Not officially abandoned just yet but it may as well be. Rather than fix all of the bugs and glitches in Summoner's Legacy the dev just labeled it as completed to work on Djinn. Now Djinn is on hold and the dev is working on yet another title called Dominion with a male protagonist in place of the futa protagonists of Summoner's Legacy and Djinn. Dominion still has some futa content but it seems to be a side line rather than a main emphasis. This dev has developed a rather piss poor reputation for incomplete titles. Sins of her father and Daywalkers are both officially abandoned.

There are only two titles from this dev that remain in my active AVN files, both are short, kinetic AVN stories with no choices, Home Alone and Aleistra. If that is all this dev can manage without the constant errors then they should stick to that. I'm tired of the buggy messes they leave behind. I have tried several times to complete Summoner's Legacy, which is supposedly completed, mais non. I cannot finish it due to the vast number of bugs, glitches and errors. With every month that passes, I hold out even less hope for this title, Djinn. I love this art style and the quirky, kinky stories but the errors just keep mounting and never get fixed. I moved Summoner's Legacy and Djinn to b/u drives for now but if there is no move to improve SL or finish Djinn in the next few months... I'm just going to delete them both and forget the whole thing.

Hope that answers your question, my friend. I am disappointed as well...:rolleyes::oops:o_O

Adventure ever on, Phat:devilish:(y)
Thank you for such a comprehensive answer. I hope that if you manage to improve those games, you will share the results of your work.:) WITH ALL MY HEART I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN YOUR WORK(y):)
 

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Thank you for such a comprehensive answer. I hope that if you manage to improve those games, you will share the results of your work.:) WITH ALL MY HEART I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN YOUR WORK(y):)
You misunderstand, he's not the dev.

He's voicing his frustration with the delay(s) that he's at the point of not too much more and he'll delete the games and move on from this dev's work.
 
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it is possible threeosome with freja and wanesa thanks or jamenson and aunt with main character
 
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