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Nikociant I like the game so far and I've been on dominant route. I don't really mind futa and I like lesbian but I don't like it when the futa fucks other girls. Like with Salma and Camilla. I don't want Salma to fuck Camilla. Is there anway to avoid that?
Literally the first scene where you meet Salma and Camilla, Camilla is sucking Salma's cock. The only way to avoid it would be not playing the game.
 

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Checked it again.
It is not even possible to play a zero sub route (Dominance route before) anymore. The last decision with Leah. Gives me one Sub point or two. But there is not a non sub point decision. Which I don't understand why groping her makes me submissive?
Before that update, I would have got no Dominance.
My hopes lay on the succubus now. Hope she does not end like the Vampire.
Thanks. You saved my time and data
 

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I restarted the whole game to play the new version and managed to get to 30 sub points, but the submissive icon still hasn't changed to higher levels as the tutorial at the beginning of the game explained - how many sub points would I need for that and is it achievable in the current update? Also, I have noticed that on Leah's/Yuki's route you seem to have removed the scene where MC licked both of their pussies, as Leah just leaves now and Yuki explains her plan about selling artifacts to the mafia for the first time - is it still possible to get that scens?

Finally, I think Leah is the prettiest girl in the game, (obviously just my personal opinion) so I loved submitting to her so far, but in this update you made her use the term "untermensch" in 2 scenes, when "subhuman" or "subhuman trash" would've worked just as well if you wanted to go for some verbal humiliation - is there any particular reason for her to use the German word that was widely used by the Nazis to refer to people they considered racially inferior? I don't think it adds anything to the game and no matter how much I love drinking a beautiful elven maiden's golden nectar, hearing a Nazi term during the act makes it too disgusting for my taste... :LOL: Seriously though, jokes about Nazis being more disgusting than piss aside, I really think you should use the English equivalent of that term instead.
 
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About game content. I'm sorry if I sound rude, but I don't care what each player like or don't like, I can't and will not make every scene optional/avoidable.

I restarted the whole game to play the new version and managed to get to 30 sub points, but the submissive icon still hasn't changed to higher levels as the tutorial at the beginning of the game explained - how many sub points would I need for that and is it achievable in the current update? Also, I have noticed that on Leah's/Yuki's route you seem to have removed the scene where MC licked both of their pussies, as Leah just leaves now and Yuki explains her plan about selling artifacts to the mafia for the first time - is it still possible to get that scens?
I just look in the code, it's my bad, you need 31 point to get a scene. I wrote condition '>30' instead of '>=30' :FacePalm:


This.

I want to stress, I was fully aware that I got some Femdom. I can read. And I was ready to take it.;) But for people like me, it was more fun before that change.
I understand the decision and I have zero problems with it. It is his game after all.
But I have a Problem with this.

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What's wrong with tags? The game still has, and will have some maledom/neutral scenes.

I wrote about the changes in the game over a month ago here, on patreon and on discord. And I wrote from start that the game is mostly about femdom.
 
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LAKueiJin

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If that's true.
Talking from a neutral standpoint now that I played the new game. What's the Point of Sub point at all? Why the decisions?
Example: first scene with Zoe. I don't think any sub even when he doesn't like Zoe woul take the option to kiss her ass. I guess all have done that but tell me if I am wrong. It's a forum we can talk about stuff.
You mean sub points in general, or sub points for the individual girls? I only play femdom and lezdom games (the former only as a sub), and if for example you snub Zoe, (do not kiss her ass, or even if you do but later on refuse to be her chair and intead look through the papers yourself for her and find out about Acetonius) you will stop getting her domme scenes and she will treat you more or less as an equal going forward, even admitting to her sister that you are a pretty useful apprentice. If, at the same time, you for example completely submit to Leah or Salma, they will treat you as a sextoy/slave that is below them, so the individual sub points matter quite a bit. If we're talking sub points in general, I think they affect interactions with side characters (like the 2 nekos) and, even according to the in-game stats, Yuki's attitude and scenes as well. Overall I don't find a problem with the new sub points system - it allows you to be a witch's slave and another's equal, so you can avoid the submissive content for characters you don't like (like in my case Salma cause I'm not into futa) and see all of it for those you do like. The only minor annoyance about it was the required restart, but that's not so bad with the skip function.

Why the Mini-games, the stuff a sub player wants is behind losing the game. I guess it is the felling of losing that's giving explanation and is arousing for some. Which is ok. But I play games to win.
I'm not a big fan of content on loss either, but if my choice is between femdom on loss and maledom on win I'll always go for the former. I never get anything from the "feeling of losing" and know of several femdom-only players on f95 who don't even play games where they have to be defeated to see femdom as, like you, they will always play to win. I am more neutral on the matter as the main reason I play porn games is for satisfying fetishes/kinks, not for "winning", (to be fair not even in RPGs or Assasin's creed games I was never a "completionist", as I care more about roleplaying as my character and keeping them morally/ideologically consistent than I do about finishing all the quests on one playthrough) so I will make the choices that allow me to experience that content, regardless whether that means losing or winning a minigame.

I can get turned on by a well-written story where MC is being genuinely manipulated/outsmarted by a dominant woman, but not by losing an easy minigame, and I don't think that there are many subs for whom the act of losing a minigame itself is arousing... (no kinkshaming or anything, but I just haven't heard of any and I spend time only in femdom communities populated overwhelmingly by subs)

This is from Patreon and the same is here on F95 in the Dev Notes.
He has to change it If the comment from @Konstantinus is true. That's misleading, that's false advertisement and sorry to sound bold is work of 10 minutes and should have done as it become clear that maledom is thrown out of the window.
That's a must. He's asking for money on Patreon. This is Business.
Technical one scene, but who will see that spanking now?
Fully agreed with this part - only replied to you as I myself find the new sub points system useful, and because I think you misunderstand what most subs find arousing (eg your minigame comment), but I'm not a patron either and I fully agree that, if Nikociant has decided to scrap the maledom route, they should probaly ammend the patreon and dev notes to no longer advertise the game as "maledom" and just mention it has some "maledom scenes" instead. We should however wait for the dev's comments on this, as they always posted regular updates and I'm sure they'll clarify what the status of the dominant route is going forward.

Welcome to my world with this issue btw - more than half the games labelled "femdom" on f95 are harem games with tags like "creampie", "blowjob" and several other maledom and vanilla kinks, with the only "femdom" in there being a couple of "reverse rape" scenes! (which could easily be hinted at with the "reverse rape" tag alone...) I'm not saying this game is definitely mislabelled "maledom" (as Nikociant hasn't mentioned yet whether they really scrapped the maledom route for good or not), but I'm just saying that on the other side of the fence we often have to deal with games mislabelled as "femdom"... (some would say it's the norm rather than the exception) Anyway, this is between you guys and Nikociant and I'm sure it will get solved amicably as they're a proactive dev that until now always kept in touch with the community/players and answered most posts! :)
 

LAKueiJin

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About game content. I'm sorry if I sound rude, but I don't care what each player like or don't like, I can't and will not make every scene optional/avoidable.


I just look in the code, it's my bad, you need 31 point to get a scene. I wrote condition '>30' instead of '>=30' :FacePalm:
Thanks for the answer - probably it was also my bad for doing a dedicated playthrough where I submitted only to Leah and/or Yuki for the most part, and therefore I did not get a lot of submissive points from interactions with Zoe. I'll try to do a new playthrough where I'll just be submissive to everyone (including Salma for non-futa scenes) to see if I can get to a higher submissive level/any extra scene with Yuki! Thanks for the regular updates btw!

I love the game so far, and if you give Leah her own ending and you stop her from saying "untermensch", I promise I'll become a patron after the next update! :LOL: ;)
 
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Is there a walkthrough for the game wanna start it again from the beginning, I know the game is expected to have multiple endings
 

Nikociant

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Leah's, Zoe's, and Salma's scenes depend of their sub points. Most of the scenes require many points. A few scenes only available with low points.

Thats a shame ,i liked the music can you add it back? Please people who domt like it can just mute it.
I'm thinking about that. Some moments in the story kind of need music.
 
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I'll take a look in the code. Could miss something, because I redid almost every choice.
But the game will be more or less harsh in any case, there are no 'right' choices.
 
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