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desmosome

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Damn RomanHume this was an amazing update! As many have said, the scene(s) with Cassie was incredible!!! You've really set the bar high for your self ;)

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When do we get more of that? :)
hmmmm, how come my wife is wearing a white tank top? I tried fiddling with the lingerie and naked modes, but they didn't seem to change anything. Is this a love vs hate thing?
 
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HornyyPussy

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hmmmm, how come my wife is wearing a white tank top? I tried fiddling with the lingerie and naked modes, but they didn't seem to change anything. Is this a love vs hate thing?
Could be

or

there was a couple of renders during the phone call, maybe she took of the red shirt?
 
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Well... one more game that is over for me because plot with my favorite character was just destroyed with being too rushed and "she was actually always into it" instead by being gradually corrupted... and that somehow always happens, I don't know way devs go in that direction...

i think that actually, sadly, Teachers Pets was the best one considering gradual corruption and tempo until being abandoned.
 

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Well... one more game that is over for me because plot with my favorite character was just destroyed with being too rushed and "she was actually always into it" instead by being gradually corrupted... and that somehow always happens, I don't know way devs go in that direction...
We will miss you man, godspeed.
 
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RomanHume

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Well... one more game that is over for me because plot with my favorite character was just destroyed with being too rushed and "she was actually always into it" instead by being gradually corrupted... and that somehow always happens, I don't know way devs go in that direction...

i think that actually, sadly, Teachers Pets was the best one considering gradual corruption and tempo until being abandoned.
Aw, that's a bummer!

It's been fun and I'm sorry to see you go, but C'est la vie!

Thanks for all the good times and I wish you well on your journey!

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quorkboy

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And just because you don't dedicate a room in your house for your neighbor's children doesn't mean other people don't.......even though....well........yeah it's kinda weird. But who says everyone has to be normal!
If my neighbour had a daughter like Cassie, she could live in any room in my house.

There might be a couple of rules. Like sharing the shower to save water. And she's not allowed to wash herself.

Nothing weird, though. Unless she's into weird. What's weird anyway?
 

FrankFurters

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The pace on Cassie feels wrong to me in "game-time", but right in "real-time" as development has been stuttered for plenty of reasons anyone who's followed this knows about. I'm happy things seem to be humming along now, so I can't complain too much. The latest scene being crazy fucking hot and the quality being so high helps on not being too disappointed about missing a slow(er) burn story.

Maybe there would have been a way to have both (quick and slow) by having a corruption route play out with Roger slowly going through the motions of not getting any visits from social workers or the cops over a few more versions, but leaving the Cassie reverse seduction route (blue) as is from this update?

Roman, I haven't really caught if you have the story completely mapped out already or if you have a basic outline, but otherwise figuring it out as you go. What's that process?
 
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RomanHume

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Normally I'd complain about a Dev Milking when they revamp their game but not with this because Dev was never selfish with content he never string you along in hopes that you probably be graced with an exposed left boob with each update like some Devs do and besides the story is definitely worthy of a revamp being told best a possible. forgot to mention he actually gave us an option to pick our MC race I can finally play a game as Tyrone Long Dick Style :giggle: Praises to this Dev only other game that did this was Rockin Robin and I was so disappointed when Dev remove that option.
I appreciate that. I've always been very generous with the lewd pics of my characters. As a player and fan of others games I know from personal experience that it isn't the promise of nudes that make me a patron. It's the fact that I'm in love with the characters and I'll happily pay month after month for fresh filth.

So I assume the same of my players and patrons. They aren't following and supporting because I might show one of Cassie's tits. They're following and supporting because they love Cassie and as long as I keep her interesting, people will continue to support.

Besides, nothing I hate worse than a dev releasing cock-tease after cock-tease. Sometimes, we just gotta some pussy ya know.

Oh, and I wish you and Tyrone Long Dick Style many happy adventures to come!

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Good to know. Added to the bug log and I'll look into it. Thanks mate.

Generally I agree, making the same game three times is a bit tiring. However, for many devs this is the first foray into coding (at least on a more major scale than finding prime factors or greeting the world) and even if everything works, sooner or later too many things are not optimized - at all. Which may make some future ideas more complicated to implement, which may slow down the game significantly, or other inconveniences both for player and dev, and usually all of the above. So I'd argue that revamps can be a good thing, and if they happen early enough in development even may speed up the ending, so win-win-double win.
Personally I hate reworking old content. It bores the hell out of me. But things like the changing skin tones and save data I can't implement without a rework.

So that said, I'm 100% against stopping new work in favor of reworking old stuff. That's why I'm going to gradually do the rework between batches of fresh new material.

Theres a lil problem with this transition and also background extremely bright its near to impossible to read. Ive had to skip alot I just cant read it white text bright background
Can you send me a screen shot that includes the text so I can better see what you're referring to? Cause I don't see any text or text box in those images.

not all of them for example if you had one of the girl pregnant it does not pass to the current version
When pregnancy becomes relevant in the current version I'll certainly program a way to update your characters if you don't want to use the cheat system. I just wasn't going to put an undue amount of development time into it yet because it wasn't yet a factor in the game.

You might want to check in with Vren, who I think has written some code to queue up renders in DAZ, using the command line. i.e. you can perfect your base render to your preference, and then queue up multiple render jobs for each additional skin tone, particularly important to Lab Rats 2 with the procedural/randomly generated models.

When I was chatting with him, he was absurdly helpful and open to feedback/input, so maybe he'd be open to sharing/license his work. While his application of it is not to everyone's taste, I (for one) appreciate the tech/work behind it and can see the application to running renders in batch jobs.
I appreciate the suggestion but I already have a Render Queue that I use and I'm fond of. Currently I use ManFriday's Render Queue and I'm a fan because one it lets me program a "settle down" period after a new file is opened so that Daz can do all it's fitting algorithms and because I can program a full restart of Daz between renders so that the memory flushes and I don't have to worry as much about Daz crashing between sets.

I've loaded hundreds of images at a time into that queue and let it run for days without a hitch. So I'd be hesitant to try and switch to anything new at this time. But thanks for the suggestion!

hmmmm, how come my wife is wearing a white tank top? I tried fiddling with the lingerie and naked modes, but they didn't seem to change anything. Is this a love vs hate thing?
Character clothing and appearance may change depending on which path the character is on, red or blue. The Nude and Lingerie modes are alt game modes available to upper tier patrons (though once I finish post production on those I have no doubt links will appear here for them.)
 

desmosome

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The pace on Cassie feels wrong to me in "game-time", but right in "real-time" as development has been stuttered for plenty of reasons anyone who's followed this knows about. I'm happy things seem to be humming along now, so I can't complain too much. The latest scene being crazy fucking hot and the quality being so high helps on not being too disappointed about missing a slow(er) burn story.

Maybe there would have been a way to have both (quick and slow) by having a corruption route play out with Roger slowly going through the motions of not getting any visits from social workers or the cops over a few more versions, but leaving the Cassie seduction route (blue) as is from this update?

Roman, I haven't really caught if you have the story completely mapped out already or if you have a basic outline, but otherwise figuring it out as you go. What's that process?
It's fast and sudden in terms of game time yea. It's clear to me the direction of this game is realism though. What's more important than game time, or even "real-time," is whether the scene makes sense for the characters. Cassie has been thinking about it for years and planned out everything to make it happen this day. She's been stimulating the MC for a while and he cautiously or happily bites.

Some type of corruption also wouldn't make much sense, because even the red MC, being as impulsive and horny as he is, still loves his ...neighbor's... daughter. He's probably never going to try to "corrupt" her in the hentai sense. If you look at the variables, it's called infatuation, meaning Cassie is the one driving the relationship, at least at the start.

So yea, I think it's done well. I also love corruption games and classic hentai tropes, but it's important to see what the dev is intending to do. You should judge based on the merits of the game as they envision it, rather than feeling bad that it doesn't go exactly as you want it to. This is why I can enjoy some romance or vanilla games even though those tags are not arousing to me in the slightest. If the dev does what they want to do very well, we should be able to enjoy it for what it is (within reason of course... I wouldn't be able to play a game about some futa pegging a dude up the ass, but you get what I mean lol).

Besides, there are other characters that will have different mechanics. Amanda being a corruption route that tries to keep the characters realistic.
 
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RomanHume

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The pace on Cassie feels wrong to me in "game-time", but right in "real-time" as development has been stuttered for plenty of reasons anyone who's followed this knows about. I'm happy things seem to be humming along now, so I can't complain too much. The latest scene being crazy fucking hot and the quality being so high helps on not being too disappointed about missing a slow(er) burn story.

Maybe there would have been a way to have both (quick and slow) by having a corruption route play out with Roger slowly going through the motions of not getting any visits from social workers or the cops over a few more versions, but leaving the Cassie reverse seduction route (blue) as is from this update?

Roman, I haven't really caught if you have the story completely mapped out already or if you have a basic outline, but otherwise figuring it out as you go. What's that process?
Let's say I have a vision of the horizon but how I get there is still largely undetermined.

When I write, in general not just porn, I like to spend a bunch of time in the beginning learning who my characters are. Their personalities, their quirks, their aspirations, etc. I flesh them out like real people in my mind and get to know them insanely well. After that, I just come up with events and scenarios. I think, ok, what if Jane and Roger went to a Rock concert together.

Then I sit down, I write, and because the characters have so much predeveloped personality, they pretty much inform the script themselves. I think that is why the conversation comes off so naturally because the whole scene just starts to play out in my head like a scene from a T.V. show.

Before I know it, they are talking to each other, interacting, and pretty soon they are just doing their own thing and my job is to just write it down. I know that sounds meta-cheesy, but it's actually how my process works.

I know where I want the story to end and I have thoughts on various endings to different plot lines. But for now I'm just kind of riding these characters and seeing where they want to go. Often the conclusion of one scene will determine the actions of the next and I just sort of follow that path.

Of course I have to do some wrangling to ensure things don't spin wildly out of control. I conciously try and find ways to tie character plots into each other so that each character isn't standing alone in a void. And I think of various ways I heighten the drama to keep momentum in the story. But outside of that, my writing is pretty much my characters telling me what they want to do.

And this why I unfortunately have to sometimes say, I can't put things like an Emily, Cassie, Jane, Amanda four way into the story. Because as soon as I start contradicting the personalities of the characters, the whole process falls apart. I need their strong personalities to guide my writing and without it, we're just sputtering crap.
 

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It's fast and sudden in terms of game time yea. It's clear to me the direction of this game is realism though. What's more important than game time, or even "real-time," is whether the scene makes sense for the characters. Cassie has been thinking about it for years and planned out everything to make it happen this day. She's been stimulating the MC for a while and he cautiously or happily bites.
This was certainly the mentality. But I also think that more could have been done in terms of buildup. That's one thing about working with a team. You don't have 100% of the creative control. There were times when I was asked to mitigate or shorten a chapter, or reduce the complexity of a scene to make the jobs of my compatriots who were rendering and coding easier. There were compromises for sure.

But with this chapter I had carte blanche to do whatever I want however I wanted. I think if in those first two chapters I had the same freedom with Cassie's story, I could have spent some more time building up the anticipation and the expectations. One reason I don't want to rush the rework is because I know myself well enough to know that when I get into that material, the artist in me is going to take over and those chapters will probably grow by five or six scenes.

If anything, that might be my opportunity to strengthen the build up and create more of a prelude.

Some type of corruption also wouldn't make much sense, because even the red MC, being and impulsive and horny as he is, still loves his ...neighbor's... daughter. He's probably never going to try to "corrupt" her in the hentai sense. If you look at the variables, it's called infatuation, meaning Cassie is the one driving the relationship, at least at the start.
I intentionally wanted to stay away from the corruption story with Cassie because I've seen it done so many times. I did want to try something a little bit different where the older is the prey of the youth. Plus I have all the corruption stuff so tightly focused on Amanda, I didn't want to cross over too many kinks between characters. I kind of like having them isolated in "Jane is the wild child", "Cassie is the informed socialite", "Amanda is the shy babe in the woods". By keeping their primary 'fetish' so to speak, separate, I create more individuality in the plot lines.

I know not everyone would agree with me, but if each love interest was a matter of corruption vs love I think the game would get stale pretty quick. But that's just my opinion.

But for now we'll keep developing, I'll keep reading feedback, and we'll see where we go. :D
 

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It did not feel rushed to me at all. But I think the reason was actually way more simple in my case: I had read the description of the characters in the website.

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So I was totally expecting this kind of development. I also agree with desmosome Mc is a loving $%^%$, not a guy trying to manipulate his own $%$#% into becoming a his private sex doll. So the whole corruption would not work here. This is not a stupid random fuck fest novel where the only objective of the main character is getting his dick wet.

If my neighbour had a daughter like Cassie, she could live in any room in my house.
If my neighbor had a daughter like Cassie, I'm pretty sure she would be "the reason for divorce" my ex-wife's lawyer gave to the judge.
 
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RomanHume Yeah all contacts disappear when you turn on THEN off cheat mode, the only reason i used cheat mode is to edit and mirror the stats from my save paths from v1.1.5 (very useful game mechanic you created, and i'm not just talking about cheat mode)... btw i used cheat mode only when you can talk to the dr. amana and notebook shows for the 1st time at the very start.
 
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RomanHume Yeah all contacts disappear when you turn on THEN off cheat mode, the only reason i used cheat mode is to edit and mirror the stats from my save paths from v1.1.5 (very useful game mechanic you created, and i'm not just talking about cheat mode)... btw i used cheat mode only when you can talk to the dr. amana and notebook shows for the 1st time at the very start.
its just you lol
 
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hey guys,
Here is the incest patch for the version 1.1.5.Here is the link.Install guide is in the file
Install guid: extract the zip file into the main folder (where the game exe is) and click then on yes for overwrite

Here is the Incest patch for the version 2.0.0P
Install guid: extract the zip file into the main folder (where the game exe is) and click then on yes for overwrite
There are a few issues with the 2.0.0P patch:
Line 11 is missing the ending ,
Code:
        'If I was years younger and not her...you know...neighbor, I think I would definitely make a pass at her.': 'If I was years younger and not her father, I think I would definitely make a pass at her.',
Line 14 is missing the ' at the beginning of the original line and the changed line
Code:
        '"Just me and your...[eh.fName], here by ourselves."': '"Just me and your mother, here by ourselves."',
and there is a missing line that needs to be corrected
Code:
        '"You wouldn\'t be my...uh...neighbor if you didn\'t."':'"You wouldn\'t be my daughter if you didn\'t."',
(part of scene06, put it under the "most obvious answer" line.

Also attached the corrected patch, feel free to yoink it for your post gigan.


Editt: And to Romanhume, this update was amazing. Definitely looking forward to more. (y)
 

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It did not feel rushed to me at all. But I think the reason was actually way more simple in my case: I had read the description of the characters in the website.

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So I was totally expecting this kind of development. I also agree with desmosome Mc is a loving $%^%$, not a guy trying to manipulate his own $%$#% into becoming a his private sex doll. So the whole corruption would not work here. This is not a stupid random fuck fest novel where the only objective of the main character is getting his dick wet.


If my neighbor had a daughter like Cassie, I'm pretty sure she would be "the reason for divorce" my ex-wife's lawyer gave to the judge.
I totally agree with Ayhsel here..
What a nice update, the wait was really worth it. Not many games have the love factor as much as this one in it. No manipulation in it, they just give in to their love for each other.

So i guess the pregnancy will come when we had all characters played through, am i right?
 
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