Ren'Py Completed Dreaming of Dana [v0.099] [PTOLEMY]

Infamy · Aug 6, 2017

Dunno why all the hate for Jessica she is fine nothing like a lil chocolate in yer life the bald head kinda throws me at times but s'all good her dialogue makes me wanna beat the bitch savagely however.

Valentina · Aug 6, 2017

Infamy said:
Dunno why all the hate for Jessica she is fine nothing like a lil chocolate in yer life the bald head kinda throws me at times but s'all good her dialogue makes me wanna beat the bitch savagely however.

for me is different i can accept the dialogues and the bossy attitude with mc and even with dana siding with her but i will not accept she do the bossy thing to dana, but the bald head really kill my mood

Freki · Aug 6, 2017

DiabolicalLover said:
I think im missing something....lm up to like week 7, just focusing on Dana, Affection is 100+, sexuality is 80+ and nothing is unlocking. I keep getting movie night and then the dinner massage thing over and over.

Is this normal? What am I doing wrong?

You have to cultivate andrea, and also maria and then shortly after dana joins you there you get jessica and that pushes things further.

Freki · Aug 6, 2017

Corrupted said:
1. Tell Ptolemy to remove the life sim part and just make it a straight VN.
2. You need to date the other people to proceed with the Dana stuff. Andrea and Maria in particular, IIRC

why don't you make your own game and see if it stands up against what you have not liked. your ideas would make it boring and not worth it. this is not a life sim as it is in general, it only is bad in your opinion. to remove the features now will be a major re-writing of the code and functions and people have said they don't want what you are pushing for. please move on and make your own if you don't like it so much!

Ptolemy · Aug 6, 2017

Please don't fight.

I will agree that the whole fist act needs a bit of a rework. But the padding has a purpose. And it's not because I want to artificially extend the game. Lack of content is not something I feel guilty about. But me, knowing the code, I can get from the first dream that Chris has about Dana to having sex with her, in basically 2 in game weeks. I think that's far too little time. I've tried to make things as close to plausible as possible, and it still be somewhat entertaining.

And me writing weeks and weeks of scenes with Chris basically just going to work, and then having naughty thoughts about his sister, again and again, till he learns to embrace them. Well, it wont be long before I open my veins.

The padding is there for 2 major reasons.

1) I wanted to intro some very simple stats in my first game, play around with them a little. Get better for future projects.
2) Simulate the time it takes for Chris to accept his feelings. Without me writing thousands of lines about nothing much. You notice that after the first getaway event, things move much faster, and will move even faster after the second. But I think the first step takes the longest in an attraction of this nature

It might need a rebalance, but honestly it's not a priority right now. The priority is filling up the weekends and getting rid of that fucking 'skip weekend' button.

But please, don't fight.

Ptolemy

Corrupted · Aug 6, 2017

Ptolemy said:
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Look, I get it. The whole point of an incest game is the sexual tension, not the actual fucking, and you want to draw that out as long as possible. I truly get it. I'm just saying: The best way to get rid of the "skip weekend button" is to simply get rid of the "skip weekend button" and reshape the whole narrative in a VN. You can make the player go on a couple dates with the other characters before the MC comes to terms with his incestuous feelings. You can easily add some more scenes where the MC has inner monologues and such. What you're doing is, you're crafting a narrative. The life sim stuff is just in the way. In YOUR way of writing the sort of story that you want to write, as your post there confirms once more.

Edit: Just ask yourself: Why are you so in love with the life sim concept that you can't even contemplate a way to get rid of it?

Freki · Aug 6, 2017

Ptolemy said:
Please don't fight.

I will agree that the whole fist act needs a bit of a rework. But the padding has a purpose. And it's not because I want to artificially extend the game. Lack of content is not something I feel guilty about. But me, knowing the code, I can get from the first dream that Chris has about Dana to having sex with her, in basically 2 in game weeks. I think that's far too little time. I've tried to make things as close to plausible as possible, and it still be somewhat entertaining.

And me writing weeks and weeks of scenes with Chris basically just going to work, and then having naughty thoughts about his sister, again and again, till he learns to embrace them. Well, it wont be long before I open my veins.

The padding is there for 2 major reasons.

1) I wanted to intro some very simple stats in my first game, play around with them a little. Get better for future projects.
2) Simulate the time it takes for Chris to accept his feelings. Without me writing thousands of lines about nothing much. You notice that after the first getaway event, things move much faster, and will move even faster after the second. But I think the first step takes the longest in an attraction of this nature

It might need a rebalance, but honestly it's not a priority right now. The priority is filling up the weekends and getting rid of that fucking 'skip weekend' button.

But please, don't fight.

Ptolemy

@Ptolemy, my apologies, I just wish people would try to accept you are writing this and we here have no control over what you do (though you do read here and do take things into account) I love the game and I think you are doing quite well with it. I like the pacing and I find it fun, I like all the characters and though my least favorite girl is jessica, I do like her myself and enjoy her scens.

You are doing a great job of this please keep working and do what you think needs to happen given all the input that you wish to get.

Thank you!

Tramall · Aug 6, 2017

Well said, too many egos around here, lol, I am looking forward to not pressing that "skip weekend" button. Keep up the good work

Deleted member 30700 · Aug 6, 2017

I like the skip weekend button. Please don't get rid of it. Sometimes I want to get right back to work to play with others. It's nice having that option.

Ptolemy · Aug 6, 2017

Freki said:
@Ptolemy, my apologies, I just wish people would try to accept you are writing this and we here have no control over what you do (though you do read here and do take things into account) I love the game and I think you are doing quite well with it. I like the pacing and I find it fun, I like all the characters and though my least favorite girl is jessica, I do like her myself and enjoy her scens. You are doing a great job of this please keep working and do what you think needs to happen given all the input that you wish to get.

Thank you!

Thank you

Corrupted said:
Look, I get it. The whole point of an incest game is the sexual tension, not the actual fucking, and you want to draw that out as long as possible. I truly get it. I'm just saying: The best way to get rid of the "skip weekend button" is to simply get rid of the "skip weekend button" and reshape the whole narrative in a VN. You can make the player go on a couple dates with the other characters before the MC comes to terms with his incestuous feelings. You can easily add some more scenes where the MC has inner monologues and such. What you're doing is, you're crafting a narrative. The life sim stuff is just in the way. In YOUR way of writing the sort of story that you want to write, as your post there confirms once more.

Edit: Just ask yourself: Why are you so in love with the life sim concept that you can't even contemplate a way to get rid of it?

I have considered it. After I played around with the stats for the first couple of months, I had no more use for them. That's why the player gets crazy amounts of affection and sexuality points once the dates start. Because they are no longer needed.

But what you're suggesting, may seem easy, but it's not. Yes, the coding would be easy, I could do it in a day, but the filling up of that time.....

Let's do a little math.

I'd need at least 3 weeks in game from start to first getaway, for it to be even remotely plausible. That's 21 days. Let's say 3 scenes per day, no randoms etc... That's 63 scenes. Let's assume the minimum of 10 renders per scene, that's 630 renders. Not easy. And coming up with 63 ideas for each scene, NOT EASY.

Alternatively, I could fill it up with "He goes to work, he goes home, he jerks off", "He goes to work, he goes home, he jerks off, this time Dana appears briefly in his fantasy", "He goes to work, he goes home, he jerks off, this time Dana appears a little more ......" How long before everyone, not just me would want to open their veins....

This game is more about a relationship, not necessarily about tension. Intimate Relations, is all about tension, and is a pure VN. You might want to check that out. Though updates are infrequent, DoD is my main project.

Ptolemy

Dole · Aug 6, 2017

0.057 on svscomics
What does it contain?

4 scenes.

2 bigger ones and 2 smaller ones. That are tied to one of the bigger ones. But only one sex scene. I wanted to advance their story w/o penetration for once. Tell me what you think about that. Must we have a sex scene with every patch?

A few bugfixes, but not that many.

Also I've made the new scenes non repeatable. I'm thinking of making most of them that way. I think it's more believable. But I'll have to make a gallery before I do that. So players can go back and revisit them.

If you don't want to be spoiled at all, don't read the next paragraph.

They are pretty much random scenes. They all start in your office. Just keep playing and they will fire. The only requirement is the first Dana getaway.

The first scene is a stand alone. You'll help Dana chose a new employee. The game will remember your choice, and I'll intro a mini sub plot, in a future patch, depending on your choice.

The second one is what I like to call "meeting the geek squad". If you choose to be an asshole, the scene will end, and you'll never hear from them again. If not, a mini sub plot opens up, where you can make Dana see some cruelty in her behaviour. She will be grateful if you do.

Anyway, after meeting the geek squad, if you'll be prompted next day at the office, whether you wish to pursue this sub plot. If you say no, that will be that. If you say yes, then the two smaller scenes will fire.

PepsiMan · Aug 6, 2017

Ptolemy said:
Thank you

I have considered it. After I played around with the stats for the first couple of months, I had no more use for them. That's why the player gets crazy amounts of affection and sexuality points once the dates start. Because they are no longer needed.

But what you're suggesting, may seem easy, but it's not. Yes, the coding would be easy, I could do it in a day, but the filling up of that time.....

Let's do a little math.

I'd need at least 3 weeks in game from start to first getaway, for it to be even remotely plausible. That's 21 days. Let's say 3 scenes per day, no randoms etc... That's 63 scenes. Let's assume the minimum of 10 renders per scene, that's 630 renders. Not easy. And coming up with 63 ideas for each scene, NOT EASY.

Alternatively, I could fill it up with "He goes to work, he goes home, he jerks off", "He goes to work, he goes home, he jerks off, this time Dana appears briefly in his fantasy", "He goes to work, he goes home, he jerks off, this time Dana appears a little more ......" How long before everyone, not just me would want to open their veins....

This game is more about a relationship, not necessarily about tension. Intimate Relations, is all about tension, and is a pure VN. You might want to check that out. Though updates are infrequent, DoD is my main project.

Ptolemy

you are doing a GREAT job, what i really like of this game the options that you can avoid some scenes and repeat the ones that you like a VN will kill that, your game is awesome the way it is

Sam · Aug 6, 2017

If you're not mature enough to debate or discuss ideas without resorting to petty insults then you're not welcome here.

Consider this a final warning.

Sam · Aug 6, 2017

Updated OP to 0.057

Pepé Le Pew · Aug 6, 2017

Gonna do my thing with the 5.1GB and make it under 2GB ASAP

Maragdus · Aug 6, 2017

@Ptolemy First you are doing good work and it really shows you care about your projects.

But i have a few suggestions that i think will make the game a lot better.

First redo/extend the first part by adding more dreams/fantasies(sexual and not) flashbacks to their younger years their relationship with their father/mother(at least a week's worth) it just isn't realistic for him to discover his feelings for her because of only one sex dream.Add more subplots that encourage the development of desire for MC in Dana.Add a good guy option to not take immediate advantage of Andrea for a bigger gratifikation later.

Second redo/extend first Dana weekend specifically the ending during and after the anal.I mean after her first pussy sex with him and every time after she is sore or in pain and the pain and soreness will be x3 worse for anal even x5 because they did 0 preparation on her and it's her first time.So the sleeping on my belly and i'm fine in the morning just isn't working and even if it is just all a tough girl act on her part and she is hiding and bearing the actual pain Chris is still experienced enough to know and will try to alleviate her pain if he cares so much about her add a scene where she can't sleep from the pain and he helps her and him waking up and seeing she is struggling to put one her clothes and encourage her to skip the work day and allow him to take care of her.It will add a lot more emotional depth.

Third add the option to turn Jessica into a mouse.

I don't know what your future plans for Mila are but her father deserves a very painful end.

And i know the creation and tweaking of the scenes will take time but i'm sure no one will mind to wait 2W or a month if it will improve the game experience.There are creators that produce 1/10 of your content and quality in a much longer time span but still receive a lot more support just because they have a strong intro.

Bip · Aug 6, 2017

Release Patches

Only if you have already the 0.056 version:
0.056 to 0.057 PC :