botc76

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You have to do the Dana date with Maria and John first. It kind of sucks that you can't just pick your preferences and have to do the full tour of the NTR and BDSM, just to get to the good stuff with Dana and the secretary in my opinion.


But, if Dev don't do this ":test3:fucktard over induced harmone fuck every hole you see mentally 18 year old kids:test3:" will be raging everywhere in this thread.
Check subreddit comments of DOD posts and you will know what I'm saying.
Sad world we live in, we make do with what we got:FeelsBadMan:
Lol. All content I dislike is shit and shouldn't be in the game, only stupiid kids like it anyway.
Is that the message here?

Entitled much?

Let me tell you something, as someone who doesn't care for sharing the women in game with John or anybody else (BUT GET THAT, you don't HAVE to share Dana with him if you don'T want to) and I hate being the sub in games, so despite being sexy as hell, Jessica is not a character whose parts of the game I enjoy.
So yes, I do prefer Andrea and Dana scenes above the others, BUT I fully understand and respect that others have OTHER interests and they are not sicker or weirder or more childish or stupid or gross than my own.

This is porn, we all love our specific shit, but and this should be imprinted in your memory "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

And fucking be grateful that guys like Ptolemy make their games and we get to share them here.
 
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Lol. All content I dislike is shit and shouldn't be in the game, only stupiid kids like it anyway.
Is that the message here?
Certainly not, that's not what I not what I meant to say, I don't think you got the context of what I said there.
Every one has there own fetishes and this is a incest porn game and I'm certainly here not to judge anyone as I expect others not judge me either.


Check subreddit comments of DOD posts and you will know what I'm saying.
I meant that to some of the comments in subreddit post which many would consider/perceive as child like behavior.




":test3:fucktard over induced harmone fuck every hole you see mentally 18 year old kids:test3:"
Also I Said that in "SALT QUOTE"( :test3: .... :test3: )So Keep that in mind, I probably crossed some sort of line there.
I guess you @botc76 took that, in a way that did not intend to.
Nevermind:pokerFace:
 
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Ptolemy

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all this patreon stuff game me an idea ,why don't you start a poll and ask your patrons if they would like to see those things i asked in the game ?
Because I don't need to. I know what I want in the game. There is a difference between patrons asking me for something, and me just throwing ideas for them to approve or disapprove.

And I agree with about the feedback ,since the game is not free and to get it you need to pay then why do you ask about bugs here on pirate's den ? You should ask about it your patrons since they're paying and we're stealing it. No offense, just telling the truth
I'm not sure I understand. You're saying that since they are contributing already to the game, why don't I ask more of them?
Well, because the contribute already, is the answer. There are also those who would like to, but can't afford to. And they can give feedback, popularize, but report etc.....
Why would you be against that.

As for your comment on stealing the game. Be careful what you wish for. These adult games take almost no resources to run, and the coding in them is trivial. It would be extremely easy to simply host such games on a server, keep the saves there also, or in the browser. All patrons would get would be a link, and their email as a login name. Restrict each account to 3 IP's....... It would be, maybe a month's work.

I don't depend on Patreon for my income, and I use most of the money to buy better hardware and assets. But I'm surprised some of the big creators haven't done that already.



have an expensive rig(approx $1500)to render those images
You mean 1500 for 1 GPU :p
Seriously, that's almost what they cost, where I'm from. Maybe more like 1200 :p

The rig I have now, is WAY OVERKILL for DoD. When I started I only had one 1080 :(, and I decided to keep that style as to not have to go back and redo 2000+ renders. It serves great for Kelly, and future projects though :)))
Have you given any more thought to your story?
 

Freki

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You have to do the Dana date with Maria and John first. It kind of sucks that you can't just pick your preferences and have to do the full tour of the NTR and BDSM, just to get to the good stuff with Dana and the secretary in my opinion.
Let us look at what NTR means to people and what it really ends up meaning: first it is a Japanese term that is loosely translated as Cuckold, this is where a guy in a relationship is surplanted by another guy by the woman usually (the extra guy sometimes forces it for various reasons) and usually the cuckold is either going to leave the relationship or gets a kick out of it. Some people DO LIKE THIS. but what you find here is that NTR means that the MC being a guy, ends up SHARING his woman/women with other guys for some reason and people do not want this it truly has nothing to do with cuckolding because that's an excuse since many of the games do not always have it in there.

HERE in this game you have the main girl: DANA, Chris' sister. Both have wanted a relationship for some time but because of the accident of birth they did not pursue this relationship till this game starting. We have other girls here: Andrea, young and ambitious but submissive so she will do what it takes and the MC is willing to take her along sexually AND professionally. We have Jessica, life long friend of Dana's from school and somewhat of a butch lesbian she just likes to have fun and is possibly wondering if she's more Bisexual than lesbian. You have Maria, in an open relationship with John her husband which allows them to enjoy anyone they wish either together or apart. There are several other girls but these are the main ones. Mila, Amy and other supporting characters.

The only time that any male is with any of the other girls is when Maria and John is involved. If you are looking to have Dana for yourself, maybe with one other like Andrea. You can avoid this by selecting the option that John doesn't do Dana at all, but this puts John having sex with Maria, his wife, and Mila and this is supposedly NTR to people. this leads me to believe that people here believe that NTR is when there is ANY MALE in the area of the game and might be or have been sexually involved and the use of the term is LUDICROUS! There are male characters to move the story along, don't make it out to be more than it is! If your goal is DANA and DANA alone you can avoid even a consensual sexual encounter with any male through game choices. I see not NTR here what so ever.
 

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After reading so many comments, I've played it and I think it's a great game. It has scenes for all tastes and characters very well achieved, all different but deeply developed.

I really like John (well, maybe he would change his appearance). He is a guy who deeply loves his wife and does everything for her to be happy. He is aware of his limitations but replaces them with a great attitude. And Maria is a woman who loves sex and new experiences. Characteristic that in a man we would call a Playboy, but in a woman some call whore. From the moment Chris meets the couple, he begins to open his mind, which implies a growth in him.

And I do not understand the problem with swinging. Some say they do not want to share Dana with another man, but they have no problem doing so with another woman. I think that's hypocritical and sexist. For me it's exactly the same situation. I enjoyed the scene at Maria's house and I think, through the subsequent dialogue, that reinforced the relationship between Chis and Dana. If one is sufficiently sure of himself and his wife's affection, he does not have to fear sharing it, if she wants the same.

I hope the story follows these paths, I think we have DoD for a while.

And sorry for my english.
 

Freki

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Because I don't need to. I know what I want in the game. There is a difference between patrons asking me for something, and me just throwing ideas for them to approve or disapprove.



I'm not sure I understand. You're saying that since they are contributing already to the game, why don't I ask more of them?
Well, because the contribute already, is the answer. There are also those who would like to, but can't afford to. And they can give feedback, popularize, but report etc.....
Why would you be against that.

As for your comment on stealing the game. Be careful what you wish for. These adult games take almost no resources to run, and the coding in them is trivial. It would be extremely easy to simply host such games on a server, keep the saves there also, or in the browser. All patrons would get would be a link, and their email as a login name. Restrict each account to 3 IP's....... It would be, maybe a month's work.

I don't depend on Patreon for my income, and I use most of the money to buy better hardware and assets. But I'm surprised some of the big creators haven't done that already.





You mean 1500 for 1 GPU :p
Seriously, that's almost what they cost, where I'm from. Maybe more like 1200 :p

The rig I have now, is WAY OVERKILL for DoD. When I started I only had one 1080 :(, and I decided to keep that style as to not have to go back and redo 2000+ renders. It serves great for Kelly, and future projects though :)))
Have you given any more thought to your story?
This exactly. @Ptolemy I try to make sure you realize that anything I say is only for consideration of dev's like you but I expect honestly to hear what you said and I accept that. I try to help where I can by pointing out errors and offering to help in any way you wish, and accept you have said no thanks for anything more than pointing out errors etc. I personally offer that for the fact I like what I see and want to make it better but I know you are the one that is making this and I would never want you to do anything you didn't want. I again say thank you for what you have done and for your presence here.

I will say some of the ideas were good but hey I can see they might not have been planed for this game but keep em in mind perhaps you could find spots for them one day but I agree special requests from places like here are a dime a dozen so keep doing what you do and I personally will continue to say thank you for your efforts even if something I suggest never shows up :)

EVERYONE: I'm guilty of this too, but lets stop arguing with each other about this or that, lets enjoy the game as @Ptolemy has made it for us and keep the error reports coming so that he can make a better product! Mistakes will happen let him fix these once they are found, and if you are not a fan great but you don't have to put the game down (not really happening here but in other threads it does) just move on and let the fans enjoy the game :)

Lastly: @Ptolemy again thank you and know this, you are getting better and better but mistakes will happen and I'm sure you'll fix them as you learn and grow so let me tell you of one other issue I ran into on my last play through with the new .058 content. I got a dana event when I went to the office but the first event was her coming to MC's apartment but later i got the one where MC walked in and Dana was working. so I saw the scenes in this order 2-3-1 I will try to recreate that as I have only gotten it once but we will see.
 

Ptolemy

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This exactly. @Ptolemy I try to make sure you realize that anything I say is only for consideration of dev's like you but I expect honestly to hear what you said and I accept that. I try to help where I can by pointing out errors and offering to help in any way you wish, and accept you have said no thanks for anything more than pointing out errors etc. I personally offer that for the fact I like what I see and want to make it better but I know you are the one that is making this and I would never want you to do anything you didn't want. I again say thank you for what you have done and for your presence here.

I will say some of the ideas were good but hey I can see they might not have been planed for this game but keep em in mind perhaps you could find spots for them one day but I agree special requests from places like here are a dime a dozen so keep doing what you do and I personally will continue to say thank you for your efforts even if something I suggest never shows up :)

EVERYONE: I'm guilty of this too, but lets stop arguing with each other about this or that, lets enjoy the game as @Ptolemy has made it for us and keep the error reports coming so that he can make a better product! Mistakes will happen let him fix these once they are found, and if you are not a fan great but you don't have to put the game down (not really happening here but in other threads it does) just move on and let the fans enjoy the game :)

Lastly: @Ptolemy again thank you and know this, you are getting better and better but mistakes will happen and I'm sure you'll fix them as you learn and grow so let me tell you of one other issue I ran into on my last play through with the new .058 content. I got a dana event when I went to the office but the first event was her coming to MC's apartment but later i got the one where MC walked in and Dana was working. so I saw the scenes in this order 2-3-1 I will try to recreate that as I have only gotten it once but we will see.
Thanks for the kind words.

As for the bug, I know there was a bug that repeated the images in the 3rd encounter, and I uploaded a fix for it.
I'll have to check what you mentioned as well.
 
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As for your comment on stealing the game. Be careful what you wish for. These adult games take almost no resources to run, and the coding in them is trivial. It would be extremely easy to simply host such games on a server, keep the saves there also, or in the browser. All patrons would get would be a link, and their email as a login name. Restrict each account to 3 IP's....... It would be, maybe a month's work.
Well there is Denuvo who said their DRM is uncrackable and guess what ? it was cracked ,there are a lot of pornsites who use this restriction you talk about and guess what ? all their videos and photo sets are on pirate sites. And to why some of the big creators didn't do that already is because it's pointless ,just a waste of money.
 

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You can avoid this by selecting the option that John doesn't do Dana at all, but this puts John having sex with Maria, his wife, and Mila and this is supposedly NTR to people.
You can limit your Maria and John exposure to 3x dinner with them.
After the third dinner where Maria and Dana have sex afterwards, Jessica appears. Besides lunch to get my stats up I never even went to the swinger club. You can't really call it a strip club, at least not in my country.
 

Freki

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You can limit your Maria and John exposure to 3x dinner with them.
After the third dinner where Maria and Dana have sex afterwards, Jessica appears. Besides lunch to get my stats up I never even went to the swinger club. You can't really call it a strip club, at least not in my country.
The porn sites with videos on pirate sites is different from what @Ptolemy was talking about. it would not be hard to make the game/visual novel run on a website and though you might be able to steal the pics you wouldn't be able to have the executable as it's part of the website's coding.
 

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Anyone know the steps to get Jessica to show, I have completed dating with Dana for both Andrea and Maria still now Jessica.. :(
 
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netkeliye

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Well there is Denuvo who said their DRM is uncrackable and guess what ? it was cracked ,there are a lot of pornsites who use this restriction you talk about and guess what ? all their videos and photo sets are on pirate sites. And to why some of the big creators didn't do that already is because it's pointless ,just a waste of money.
Wow,Just Wow.......................
I have no words to say to you.

 

Ptolemy

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Anyone know the steps to get Jessica to show, I have completed dating with Dana for both Andrea and Maria still now Jessica.. :(
I guarantee you, the answer is in the thread.

But, did you ask Maria out, and brought Dana with you?
 

Ptolemy

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Well there is Denuvo who said their DRM is uncrackable and guess what ? it was cracked ,there are a lot of pornsites who use this restriction you talk about and guess what ? all their videos and photo sets are on pirate sites. And to why some of the big creators didn't do that already is because it's pointless ,just a waste of money.

Sorry, but you are just wrong on this.

Denuvo is software tamper-proofing system. Meaning you already have all of the assets on your PC. What I'm talking about, you would have no assets. As far as porn sites, that's different. You can capture video, pics etc.... but it's very difficult to capture code.

I suppose the server could be hacked, but cloudflare is getting very good these days.
 

Ptolemy

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But, did you ask Maria out, and brought Dana with you? Yes 3 times incase something was wrong.
if DanaAndreaFirstDate == True and MariaDanasex1 == True and Jessicameet == False:
jump jessicameet1

That's the code. So if you went to the dance club with Andrea and Dana, and you had the Dana and Maria date ( when you go back with Dana to Maria and John's place), and you never met Jessica. The scene will trigger when you get at the office.

Honestly, this code is more than 6 months old. If there was something wrong with it, I would of heard about it by now.

Think, which of the 3 requirements are not met.
 
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Sorry, but you are just wrong on this.

Denuvo is software tamper-proofing system. Meaning you already have all of the assets on your PC. What I'm talking about, you would have no assets. As far as porn sites, that's different. You can capture video, pics etc.... but it's very difficult to capture code.

I suppose the server could be hacked, but cloudflare is getting very good these days.
It's not as if I don't like the current setup @Ptolemy use,but there are other ways as well to get game behind secure paywall, yes pirates could use capture cards to get images, but then all they can enjoy is slideshow. I don't see game code going out.
 
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Andy02

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if DanaAndreaFirstDate == True and MariaDanasex1 == True and Jessicameet == False:
jump jessicameet1

That's the code. So if you went to the dance club with Andrea and Dana, and you had the Dana and Maria date ( when you go back with Dana to Maria and John's place), and you never met Jessica. The scene will trigger when you get at the office.

Honestly, this code is more than 6 months old. If there was something wrong with it, I would of heard about it by now.

Think, which of the 3 requirements are not met.
I did the reverse order Maria and Dana date house then Andrea so must be the order thanks..
 
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