VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [Stream Extras] [Gumdrop Games]

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For those new around here, and those who still insist on funding this scam, just face the evidence, and learn to not be manipulated in the future: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851

Oh and by the way, the usual suspects (you know who I'm talking about) were wrong again, as I predicted:

lmao, listen to these people: "there's likely going to be a part X released" :LOL: . They are shameless, this crap was abandoned in 2018, stop trying to prop up the scam here: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851 . There won't be any release again (it was abandoned in 2018, and no work has been done ever since), stop doing PR for a scammer.
People around here should learn to ignore these sketchy accounts still propping up the scam. They have been proven wrong repeatedly, like the scammer they defend. Wouldn't be surprised to see new random accounts with a sudden interest in this abandoned game to show up in this thread in the future, telling you that "this time is for real guys".

Don't fall for it, just face the evidence on the link above.
 
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Glorious Cat

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Since he can't use the animations as an excuse anymore he's going with idk what i'm doing with this new app and the "I don't really know how but we lost 2 member, strange..."

PLEASE DONATE TO MY PATREON The game
Don't forget to buy the game on steam too ;)
 

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But as always, dear old Kyle will sit at the keyboard and try his flowery best to use his language to keep his church in sway. Any excuse for his church is fine as long as it is in his signature "trying to sound elevated" language. He's a "try hard" when it comes to that to sound as if he's a leader of a church and his word is their doctrine. But in almost every post, there's something he's said to keep them going for him.
So comparing his followers to a church is pretty fair. Think about it... when the priest/pastor/official gives their sermons and speeches, they often use this "flowery" language to sound as if they are more intelligent and are blessing us plebs with their knowledge. They always have something to show us as proof which is normally the religious text where they demand us to believe that source without question. So with that said, as you're sitting there in church, you are listening to a "teacher" who then gives you "evidence" for his sermon then compels you to follow his edict. Oh, there's a reason they ask you to come once or twice a week. It's to reinforce the beliefs and the behaviors of attending the church to "lock you in". Also of note, churches have tithes and pass around a collection basket during services. That's how they live, pay the pastor, pay for the church and they willingly donate for that reason. And if you attack a man's faith, you're on his bad side now and he will defend his church to the death. LITERALLY.
With that pointed out, I now wonder that when Kyle makes a post that he's intentionally polished his language to elevate himself and is using dutch angles of old dutch angles as evidence of "progress". And since he's been active about once a week or more in his posts, he is now keeping them conditioned. So it's possible that when you rightly attack Kyle's tactics, his "faithful" will take it as a very personal insult and will defend him to the death while saying "He's been active and there's proof." Honestly, they literally completely BELIEVE in that.
With those points raised, I would almost bet a church farm that his intent is to keep the funds rolling in while he lives on their dole like a Priest of Debauchery.

EDITED to clear up sentence structure.. was typing too fast.
 
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Anybody know a game with the mom model from this swindle? the game, the history and the dialogues are dumb, but the bush of the mother drives me crazy since i discover this 3 years ago.
 

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Hey guys! I got some breaking news! I managed to find even more Part X previews!

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Turns out... all I had to do was go into the files of the Last Christmas update from 2 years ago, and pick out any random image from there! Who would have thought we had that many Part X previews all along! :sneaky:
 
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*Deep breathe as leans into the microphone*
...CAPTAIN'S LOG, DAY 53636376

He did it, the madman finally did it.
In the quiet of my Captain's Quarters, I did figure he 'might' actually release at least something by now, I mean, he had to put some fresh bait on the hook to keep the fishes swimming, even if it was just a 'half' update or some other lame excuse.

But no,
the man's done it.
Finally, he's delivered the sex scene we always wanted to see.

He fucked the Patrons.

Their were plenty of tears to go around, the Kommodant herself, tears in her eyes as he approached from behind creepy ol' Uncle Joe style.

"Y-You said the update would be here!"
And he whispered in their ear.
"Soon TM"

...

Well, the inevitable has finally come to pass and Gumdrops (Shockingly) has announced another delay, but more interestingly, the internal machine he's built to keep things going seems to be breaking down.

But first, a look at the 'post' to explain all this and 'ease' all the worries about this...eight delay? I've lost track, anyway, let's begin~

In short:
The game is not ready. More specifically, it will not be ready for the announced May 23rd release. Please cancel your pledge/subscription before the end of the month if you desire, as its development will extend past the beginning of June.


How kind of you to tell people to cancel their subscriptions! Especially with them all sunk so deep now into the sunk fallacy cost!

Not really much to say on this one to be honest, it's just the usual "I'm not the bad guy here, you can leave the cult anytime" shtick he's regurgitated at least a thousand times by now.

Why isn’t it done?
Simply put, we dragged our feet. Too much time, too little effort. FatCat isn’t working with us again until Act II’s animations, so this has nothing to do with him or his contributions. Two of our team members are no longer with us as of April due to financial difficulties. Myself and one other part-time member (local) remain on the team, working closely together on remaining animation fixes in Blender.

No. Fucking. Shit.

WinterW is probably clasping his hands together doing the macarena dance in macabre glee.

So, interestingly, you never thought until now to mention the 'supposed' two team members who have left? Seems odd, but I guess you held back on that info to launch it here as some kind of defense rather than letting people know prior.

Here's just a train of thought of questions:

-How does the two leaving affect an update that is supposedly only missing two animations (Which your animator was working on?)
- Does this mean 'other' work has not been completed and you've neglected to tell it?
- You once again emphasis on the 'local' part to your team, why? Is that supposed to impress people at this point? It's clearly not working. No one cares if you hire Pablo whose snuck over the Border and is hiding out in Arizona, they just want to see the work is done properly and complete. Hell, most people would be HAPPY if you did just out-source the work to competent people with a proven track record rather than just training up randoms from scratch which you claim to be doing.


To clarify, the changes in our team have nothing to do with Part X’s development and did not hinder or excuse the delays that have occurred. Poor management on my end, especially with a program like Blender that we’re completely new to, is the primary cause for this and other delays.
Procrastination, continued lack of action is merely a description for my full transparency to you; it’s most certainly not a justification for any behavior or error thus far. Everyone, myself included, are on the same page when it comes to this: just finish the fucking game.


If you're finally ready to admit the management here is abysmal, why on earth are you not re-thinking the strategy?

Also,
wait...

What?
WHAT?


Why is Blender now an issue? Why did you change over to a program you're unfamiliar with to begin with?
Why does any of that matter when it's just two animations that need doing that you've already out-sourced to Fatcat?

'Poor management' alone should not have justified a failure to release when there is just TWO ANIMATIONS LEFT which are supposedly out-sourced works anyway!



What is this weird circus you've managed to cobble together over the ashes of a once promising and interesting adult game?




When will it be done?
Summer. Date will not be announced until 100% completion, only upload remaining. No more misses.

Aka:
Soon TM

TL:DR: He then goes on to pledge to get some free subscriptions for people etc etc, the usual damage control once again.


What will you do going forward?
Have something to share with you more than another delay; to share with you, our supporters who ask for nothing but to continue the story.

Improving my management is just the start, the behavioral reinforcement that I’m going to hone every day. It’s not possible for me to promise in good faith there will never be another delay again; however, I can promise with absolute certainty that all information, the process will be available to everyone.


Pretty nebulous, empty statements given the current track record, also that's some balls letting people know "It's not possible for me to promise in good faith there will never be another delay again" given the circumstances.


Who are those ladies? It's been so long...

Dunno, but they can fuck off and get out my house before I call the cops.

...
NOW FOR THE 'REAL' GOOD STUFF

Far more interesting than all of this jargon is what's going on in the discord.

It seems the cult has finally began to internally crumble, their fears come realized as another deadline is missed.

For months, they've seen those on F95 as just vocal, jealous critics of the 'magnum opus' they were 'enthralled' by and involved in. It was us vs them in their eyes and finally the curtain is coming down bare to reveal the stark, naked, burned down Opera House that Gumdrops had just threw up an old pretty background cover to like in the old Star Trek episodes.

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Even old criticisms long championed by WinterW and others about the actual extent of work done are finally beginning to seep through into the discord...And their noticing.


WinterW following the Gumdrops announcement.


Forced into slow mode and deleting as many negative comments as he can, the damage control is in full swing, but even they can't stop the harsh truth, Gumdrops played it like a fiddle.


Even the Kommodant herself has come to question the benevolent leadership of the great and glorious leader.

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Abby (The Kommodant), and the other patrons, finally getting the red pill and seeing what's going on around them in the Gumdrops Discord.

P.S I know some of you over from that discord read this, and you've put Gumdrops on some Pedestal, I get the impression some of you have some warped sense he's your 'friend' who you have a deep relationship with.

You do not have a relationship with this man.
The only relationship you ever had was what he pledged to deliver as a creator, which he has failed to do numerous times.

As some of you 'squirm' so much at the notion when we say you're in a 'cult,' but I'd strongly recommend looking into the actual mindset of people in cults. You aren't in a 'death cult,' but don't worry baby, you're in one alright!

Will the show finally end and people abandon Gumdrops in droves? Unlikely, but the cracks are finally widening, and even the sycophants are finding it harder and harder to keep up the pretense that everything is alright under the hood.

But for now, my watch ends. Until NEXT TIME!


Anyway, this is your Captain,
Signing off.
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Wow, I never thought his sheep, especially abby, would begin to realize that it's a scam. It's been over 2 years (and really everything gumdrop has been accused of has started long before the development of part 10 and has been obvious to anyone with a brain for much longer than 2 years) but I still figured they'd never open their eyes to this shit since it's been so obvious for so long yet they still acted like nothing was wrong. Maybe they actually have a couple brain cells after all.
 
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That´s bull and you know it! Chummer, why is this thread so full with memes, jokes, cynism and scorn? Because many of us have been with this game from the start, saw the potential, the really great renders (even if he overused dutch angles his renders are still in the upper third today) and recognised that gumdrop got overwhelmed by his own greed.
Before I proceed further, let me just repeat what I wrote before:
Before I go further, I'll add that he could be mendacious and is just posting this to appease people while he just made enough money so far and now makes off with it to be never seen again.

Even when he still updated, he broke most promises and lied throughout development. He was caught obviously lying in late 2017/early 18 at least three times.
He missed deadlines and tried to weasel out of responsibility.

Kindly explain to us why he does not update with Part X without the missing animations? A lot of users do not even like animations in VNs! Update now and patch in the animations later, that would be no problem. Gumdrop would regain some trust and there are several developers, hobby and professionell, who did that, updating now, upgrading later.
I've no idea, you can suggest it to him.

Recently developer 3diddly finally completed "Katie´s Corruption" after a long absence and he expressively stated he did it for free and to regain trust of his patrons!
And that's what gumdrop said he's doing, he's going to post part X to all people who pledged between part IX release and part X.

I tell you why he does not update and even now lies about his intentions. He has done nothing or only so few stuff, that he can never explain a delay of two years, if he would update.
I already said that before. The game got huge and with no team (at least he acknowledges that he has team members now) bad time management and plain laziness, you can't hope to complete it on time.

Chummer (a virtual brownie point for a virtual hug if you know where that phrase was popularised), if you really are on Gumdrops team, tell him to postpone the animations ONLY and release the update without them.
I never said I was on Gumdrop's team. Some people here suggested I am a shill for him, that I'm part of his team or that I'm the man himself.
If I were in his position, I would have announced in 2018 that I'm taking a break before developing Part X because it will take much longer than earlier parts.
I'd ask in polls what content patrons want me to include, whether adding animations is something they all want or if they want to skip it. Whether they want all threads wrapped up before Act II, or if they can hang loose and unresolved in this title or maybe will be put in a future production. Finally, whether they want to have one large Part X, or if they wanted to make it roughly the same size and spread out the content to Act II and march on straight to it.

Alternatively, this is just a try to quieten down the fact that after two years you cannot show even some new pics!
Funny how his fans can't grasp this simple idea and keep throwing good money after bad.
On the bright side:

It looks like he already lost a couple of patrons since his last post (graphtreon shows 739, I see 738 on patreon, so it's going to keep dropping). We'll see if the downward trend continues or if his patrons are really dumb sheep who will keep on financing his lifestyle.
 
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