VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

[Joshua Tree]

How long did it take you to write this last comment? 2 mins? That's about the same amount of time it would take Kyle (Gumdrop) to write a Patreon post letting his paying patrons know whenever "real life happens" or "shit happens" and how it will delay a release. I think we all understand that sometimes events beyond our control happen but it really isn't hard for the developer to keep his patrons informed.

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I think my point is that you coming here and white knighting apparently without knowing the full information isn't fair. The Developer doesn't seem able to keep even the most pessimistic deadlines he sets for himself and his communication regarding development delays is next to nonexistent most of the time. He does talk in his Discord and sometimes updates people there but you've got to wonder how many of his patrons use Discord on a regular basis.

You call it white knighting but I hold no stakes in any of it, and if the update materialize tomorrow, next week or next month I don't really affected either way. Would I like to see the next installment soon? Yeah. Also if a creator got issues, real life or other wise he is not accountable to share details with anyone why it is so and so. Some people is very open about share anything in their life from navel lint to fungus between their toes, other people very private about their real life and so on. We can take something someone say at face value and accept it is so and so, or not. But the person in question is not accountable to anyone to spill the beans on why things so and so.

Imho one thing that probably a lot likely to happen with people creating these adult games, is creativity and dry spells. And then set release times for yourself is just plain stupid. You can blame that on bad planning and execution though.
I rather prefer the "it get done when it get done" approach.

 

[User_51567]

You call it white knighting but I hold no stakes in any of it, and if the update materialize tomorrow, next week or next month I don't really affected either way. Would I like to see the next installment soon? Yeah. Also if a creator got issues, real life or other wise he is not accountable to share details with anyone why it is so and so. Some people is very open about share anything in their life from navel lint to fungus between their toes, other people very private about their real life and so on. We can take something someone say at face value and accept it is so and so, or not. But the person in question is not accountable to anyone to spill the beans on why things so and so.

Imho one thing that probably a lot likely to happen with people creating these adult games, is creativity and dry spells. And then set release times for yourself is just plain stupid. You can blame that on bad planning and execution though.
I rather prefer the "it get done when it get done" approach.

It's not about sharing everything about his development or live.
Patreon isn't Facebook so who cares..

It's about broken promises.... Again and again and again.
If you as a creator give hundreds or thousands of people who are paying you the promise that an update is coming around a date and you don't deliver.
Well.... common decency says that you say something about that and be clear about it.
If you keep giving promises about every release and missing every release, then the people who are paying him have every right to question his methods and Work Ethic.
If you give promises about content and don't deliver, we have a right to question about that because we payed because of that promise.

I would even say that he talks to much in this way.
I'f he would just stop give us promises and deadlines, arguments and fights would be way lower.

But he is very smart... Because promises create Hype, and when horny people are hyped they pay for everything .
Laughing his ass off every month when he looks at his Income.
(for me personally... People like this should be removed from patreon or recieve penalty's......)

 

[GroPin]

@SirAuron20
@Jer1cho ninja´d me with his reply above on the money issue. I donated before and I will support creators in the future. I contemplated supporting gumdrop at the beginning, but if you´d followed the thread you will see that gumdrop is a lazy, untrustworthy milker. He disrespects his sheep, eh, donators big time with his behaviour, extreme delays, obvious misdirection ("Progress-bar" I look at you)...
Unfortunately, gumdrop´s game has really nice art and an unusual storyline for a porngame, so patrons and pirates (have to TM that phrasepenedeyewink alike stick with it despite growing to dislike the developer more with each passing day.

As for delays in general: I stated it before that I am a freetime writer. I know really well how problematic it can get to deliver quality updates in regular intervalls. But guess what? It can be done and is done by many creators worldwide. And if one update is delayed due to sickness or private things, nobody at F95 would get angry. Real life happens!
BUT: gumdrop never truly delievered on time, with delays rising in number and length along the way, despite his promises. He even openly lied to the audience in some of his posts, as it turned out later on. That is quite different from developers who state early on that updates would come at irregular times.

I used to be a sheep... FML

 

[Joshua Tree]

It's not about sharing everything about his development or live.
Patreon isn't Facebook so who cares..

It's about broken promises.... Again and again and again.
If you as a creator give hundreds or thousands of people who are paying you the promise that an update is coming around a date and you don't deliver.
Well.... common decency says that you say something about that and be clear about it.
If you keep giving promises about every release and missing every release, then the people who are paying him have every right to question his methods and Work Ethic.
If you give promises about content and don't deliver, we have a right to question about that because we payed because of that promise.

I would even say that he talks to much in this way.
I'f he would just stop give us promises and deadlines, arguments and fights would be way lower.

But he is very smart... Because promises create Hype, and when horny people are hyped they pay for everything .
Laughing his ass off every month when he looks at his Income.
(for me personally... People like this should be removed from patreon or recieve penalty's......)

Well, consider the story and how slow phased this game is, I don't think really horny people is the target audience, lol. In my many years of gaming, adult games or other wise, hypes only lead to disappointment tbh. If what you say hold true that he keep break his dead lines over and over, well at least he is consistent, and people still pledge, so...shrugs. Its still about support the creator without be entitled to anything, and no strings attached.

 

[King Monkey Mon]

Who is this wootch?

the guy who previously made urban life which was remade into urban demons by nergal nest

Fact and a opinion is not the same. Although he might have stated things he haven't delivered on I got no clue about or read anything about. But I also know sometimes real life happens, which is just another version of shit happens. And things doesn't pan out as intended. If you haven't been in such a situation before, then grats with a flawless life -)

opinions can be based on facts depending on the situation given your comments makes me think you are a sucker ive said this many times the delays only started after he decided to revamping the art in his game and he tends to favor the cousin having the most content a drunk who passes out when she gives head to you when your taking a shit

Well, consider the story and how slow phased this game is, I don't think really horny people is the target audience, lol. In my many years of gaming, adult games or other wise, hypes only lead to disappointment tbh. If what you say hold true that he keep break his dead lines over and over, well at least he is consistent, and people still pledge, so...shrugs. Its still about support the creator without be entitled to anything, and no strings attached.

so throwing your money down the toilet is considered no strings attached to you?

I used to be a sheep... FML

and now you are a monkey welcome to the jungle

 

[GroPin]

the guy who previously made urban life which was remade into urban demons by nergal nest

opinions can be based on facts depending on the situation giving your comments makes me think you are a sucker ive said this many times the delays only started after he decided to revamping the art in his game and he tends to favor the cousin having the most content a drunk who passes out when she gives head to you when your taking a shit

so throwing your money down the toilet is considered no strings attached to you?

and now you are a monkey welcome to the jungle

Thanks. xD

 

[Joshua Tree]

the guy who previously made urban life which was remade into urban demons by nergal nest

opinions can be based on facts depending on the situation giving your comments makes me think you are a sucker ive said this many times the delays only started after he decided to revamping the art in his game and he tends to favor the cousin having the most content a drunk who passes out when she gives head to you when your taking a shit

so throwing your money down the toilet is considered no strings attached to you?

and now you are a monkey welcome to the jungle

Well, if people are pledging on Patreon with any other agenda than just support the creator. Wouldn't that make the person foolish to start with? If you pledge for the purpose of just "Oh I want this game, and every update as fast as possible, and even the creator deliver, you will end up with a VERY expensive game end of the day. I support creators because I like what they are doing, not necessary at what speed they are doing it.

I don't remember the scene you described included the MC actually taking a dump though We would cross into a a whole new world of fetish's then

 

[Joshua Tree]

it was around the time you get to rape your aunt which i did because kyle enjoys raping us if you seriously think white knighting a guy who is literately becoming the next wootch since he revamp the art and because his shitty computer cant keep up with release dates that he promised then i truly feel sorry for you

Well some games have fetish's that you as a player doesn't necessary agree with. Playing a shooter game I don't get the urge to go out and shoot people anymore than I get the urge to rape someone over a scene in an adult game. Rape fetish porn exist for a reason, not my cup of tea though. Funny you mention wootch as I once did pledge a month or two. But expectations wasn't meet, and tbh, if you compare wootch and gumdrop, gumdrop achieved more imho. If gumdrop actually spend of his patreon money for comp upgrades he shouldn't have any "shitty comp excuse" though.

 

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[King Monkey Mon]

Oh boy, the mother in this game is better than sex with my girlfriend. she's a real piece of art.

i wish we could bone the mom or at least get an hand job by her without begin through skeleton vision because i agree with you an visual scale dual family is sexier then dreams and desire on a porn game scale however it fails miserably i mean this game is almost if not already a year old and the most content we gotten was through the cousin the rest was voyeur stuff and day dreams

 

[lexus33]

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I do agree with you completely.. I was so sad when I had to give 1/5 to this game

 

[TastySnickers]

Oh boy, the mother in this game is better than sex with my girlfriend. she's a real piece of art.

I feel sorry for you if that actually is true.

 

[Carcalla]

Apologies for making you guys wait.

This is my first batch of renders for my short. The first part is the prologue filled with drama to jumpstart the next sequence which is full-time action with sex scenes from the Mother that gumdrop will deny us until Act 3.

Enjoy.

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Preview of Part 2.

Great work brother! Congratulations...

 

[Vanaduke]

I used to be one of kyle's harsh critique but it's all what this thread is built around- gumdrop's incompetence & an endless number of resurfacing complaints.

I paid, got frustrated, withdrew, pirated and moved on.

i wish we could bone the mom or at least get an hand job by her without begin through skeleton vision because i agree with you an visual scale dual family is sexier then dreams and desire on a porn game scale however it fails miserably i mean this game is almost if not already a year old and the most content we gotten was through the cousin the rest was voyeur stuff and day dreams

You have no idea what's coming for my part 2.

 

[Jack-O]

Why are folks venting in here, like mad men? Seriously, you lot completely lost your minds? Either trash him on his patreon page, or just vent somewhere else? 9/10 of you are not even patreons! They have absolutely NO right to hold Gumdrop accountable to anything. And telling patreons what they should do? Almost forcing them...? Just WTF!? First people try to get Gumdrop to do as they tell him, on this board (useless). And when that doesn't work they switch to a different target, the patreons.

I agree on most issues people have/can have with Gumdrop. But that doesn't mean I should vent it here? And telling patreons what to do, as a patreon, or not do? Who the hell is anyone in here, to tell a patreon he/she should drop a game?

All bla-bla about how shit this game is (and how shit Gumdrop is) but you wankers can't leave it be, for some reason. All fine with me. But please go shit on some other board? It has NO effect to do it here.

 

[Jack-O]

There's a big difference between "giving info" and flat out bashing. Not OK imo. I wouldn't invest a dime on this game either. But not going to tell anyone what they should and/or should not do. This thread is full of that. I personally think that's going too far.

 

[Jack-O]

So you don't understand that anyone who's dowloading free stuff, because a donor uploaded it, isn't entitled to anything? If that's so? We'll never be able to agree to anything, I guess. I'm just happy with whatever is uploaded. Sometimes it's great! Sometimes it sucks... But that's simply what this board is for. And constant bashing a game or dev? Please m8, just go shit on his patreon page, or whatever? -.-

@wynin This is starting to become a shit thread. As much as I understand people have their grievances... I can't understand some are even shitting on members, when they don't feel the same. Especially the way some think they have to pressure other users is going too far, imho.

 

[redevil70]

So next exit March 31, 3018? :biggrin:

 

[Jack-O]

So next exit March 31, 3018? :biggrin:

-ish! penedeyewink:

 

[TheFapperBoy]

Why are folks venting in here, like mad men? Seriously, you lot completely lost your minds? Either trash him on his patreon page, or just vent somewhere else? 9/10 of you are not even patreons! They have absolutely NO right to hold Gumdrop accountable to anything. And telling patreons what they should do? Almost forcing them...? Just WTF!? First people try to get Gumdrop to do as they tell him, on this board (useless). And when that doesn't work they switch to a different target, the patreons.

I agree on most issues people have/can have with Gumdrop. But that doesn't mean I should vent it here? And telling patreons what to do, as a patreon, or not do? Who the hell is anyone in here, to tell a patreon he/she should drop a game?

All bla-bla about how shit this game is (and how shit Gumdrop is) but you wankers can't leave it be, for some reason. All fine with me. But please go shit on some other board? It has NO effect to do it here.

Wait wait wait... So, anyone who is discontent with the product he's putting out needs to go to his Patreon page, and complain there? What? You do realize what this thread is for, right? DISCUSSION. That includes positive, and negative criticism. Why can't I vent my gripes with the game here? Because Gumdrop can't see it? Because it's useless? According to who? When I criticize the game I don't do it with the hopes that Gumdrop might stumble upon my post one day. I'm doing it because I want to share my thoughts with other people in this thread, whether they agree or disagree. DISCUSSION. You do realize that telling people to give Gumdrop money to vent their frustrations about his game is the most asinine thing you could say? This thread is swinging 20% for him, 80% against him. What do you expect? When the majority of people don't like the direction of the game, or the way the developer handles his product, you want all roses, and rainbows in this thread? If I told you I was a $100 supporter (which I'm not) would that make me more right? Would that make it ok for me to criticize the game? or am I still wrong because I'm not doing it in his comment section?

But what would you like us to talk about since were shitting up this thread? There's so many topics to be discussed in the 3 month gap since the last release! or would you like us to talk about v.0.91? Oh wait... I don't have many positive things to say about that update, so I guess I can't post it here. I better take it to his Patreon page instead.

Oh, I got it! Remember when the Son had a dream about having sex with his Mother, but it was a skeleton instead? HAHAHAHAHA. That Gumdrop, such a trickster.