VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

[Paranoid_android]

It makes sense to me father has a head start here. He's had sex with his wife for years, knows the aunt/niece for a long time as an adult, seems to have a decent career, and can easily get sympathy for the occasional rudeness of his wife. Meanwhile, the son is characterized by being quiet and keeping to himself, spending much time sitting around his room. What would attract the other characters to him?

But given the interactions and portrayals, the son gets the short end of the straw for character, I mean it is implied when the son talks about the niece/cousin (cousin's text message) that he gets out (partying) and does accompany the niece/cousin at points, it is later point out that he is irresponsable (whole delayed writing essay talk with sister), then the sister pretty much reprimands him for being a bit of dick and having a poor opinion of the father and then promptly shuts him down, even though it isn't totally his fault for the outcome of the relationship since the father did (seems like that by inferring from some monologues of the son) avoid the son. The son pretty much is a totally flawed character in comparison to the dad, and the dad almost seems too perfect except for the fact that he doesn't care (or not as much) for the relationship with his wife (if you are not interested in repairing the relationship) or son. Besides all that, in the father's route you can romance the daughter (by making little gestures) or try to win the wife, but the son is neglected in that regard by only being able to improve mom's relationship with proper interactions in comparison to any other character.

 

[RobJoy]

There are a variety of characters you can interact and romance with in Dual Family.

As the Father: Virginal Daughter, Harping Wife, Envious Sister-In-law, Perverse Niece

As the Son: Longing Mother, Distant Sister, Seductive Aunt, Unbridled Cousin

I doubt a Harem ending with all four girls will be included, as it wouldn't fit the story. However, like you, I'm fine as long as I can choose myself.

Let us talk of what is in THIS version, not what will eventually be in the game if it ever finishes.
My review/gripes are strictly based on the version I was able to obtain.

It makes sense to me father has a head start here. He's had sex with his wife for years, knows the aunt/niece for a long time as an adult, seems to have a decent career, and can easily get sympathy for the occasional rudeness of his wife. Meanwhile, the son is characterized by being quiet and keeping to himself, spending much time sitting around his room. What would attract the other characters to him?

Yeah well for Mom, Aunt sure.

But son has way more interaction with the sister than dad ever could (he, like mom misses most of the time because of work).

So my original post was about the relationship there. It makes more sense.
A lot more sons wanted to bang their sister than mothers. By a large margin.

So.

 

[RobJoy]

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But given the interactions and portrayals, the son gets the short end of the straw for character, I mean it is implied when the son talks about the niece/cousin (cousin's text message) that he gets out (partying) and does accompany the niece/cousin at points, it is later point out that he is irresponsable (whole delayed writing essay talk with sister), then the sister pretty much reprimands him for being a bit of dick and having a poor opinion of the father and then shuts him down, even though it isn't totally his fault for the outcome of the relationship since the father did (seems like that by inferring from some monologues of the son) avoid the son. The son pretty much is a totally flawed character in comparison to the dad, and the dad almost seems too perfect except for the fact that he doesn't care (or not as much) for the relationship with his wife (if you are not interested in repairing the relationship) or son. Besides all that, in the father's route you can romance the daughter (by making little gestures) or try to win the wife, but the son is neglected in that regard by only being able to improve mom's relationship with proper interactions in comparison to any other character.

totally agree with this assessment.

 

[Dilettante]

But given the interactions and portrayals, the son gets the short end of the straw for character, I mean it is implied when the son talks about the niece/cousin (cousin's text message) that he gets out (partying) and does accompany the niece/cousin at points, it is later point out that he is irresponsable (whole delayed writing essay talk with sister), then the sister pretty much reprimands him for being a bit of dick and having a poor opinion of the father and then shuts him down, even though it isn't totally his fault for the outcome of the relationship since the father did (seems like that by inferring from some monologues of the son) avoid the son. The son pretty much is a totally flawed character in comparison to the dad, and the dad almost seems too perfect except for the fact that he doesn't care (or not as much) for the relationship with his wife (if you are not interested in repairing the relationship) or son. Besides all that, in the father's route you can romance the daughter (by making little gestures) or try to win the wife, but the son is neglected in that regard by only being able to improve mom's relationship with proper interactions in comparison to any other character.

Exactly, at least father have one flaw. Being an ass towards son. Not a totally saint. :angel: And i'm on mom's side in this family war.

 

[Nemi]

Let us talk of what is in THIS version, not what will eventually be in the game if it ever finishes.
My review/gripes are strictly based on the version I was able to obtain.

Sure. Since there is no way to even be intimate with any character yet in the current version, I assumed you were talking about if you could cock-block the dad and pick the girl you want in the future. My mistake.

Yeah well for Mom, Aunt sure.

But son has way more interaction with the sister than dad ever could (he, like mom misses most of the time because of work).

So my original post was about the relationship there. It makes more sense.
A lot more sons wanted to bang their sister than mothers. By a large margin.

So.

That's why I didn't talk about the daughter, I agree with you there. They clearly do talk to each other a lot, as the daughter is pointed to as the one who is by far the closest to the son in the family. More interaction doesn't always lead to romantic desires though. It could be explained as simply as "she likes older guys".

The son pretty much is a totally flawed character in comparison to the dad, and the dad almost seems too perfect except for the fact that he doesn't care (or not as much) for the relationship with his wife (if you are not interested in repairing the relationship) or son.​

Agreed. The problem is we can assume the dad isn't perfect because of the state he's in, but he's never quite demonstrated to not be perfect. We get told he has regular fights with the mother, but all we really see in the game (if you choose) is a guy who tries to make everyone around him happy.

And i'm on mom's side in this family war.

I'm curious, what makes you say that?

 

[RobJoy]

Exactly, at least father have one flaw. Being an ass towards son. Not a totally saint. :angel: And i'm on mom's side in this family war.

Ow?
I got it the other way.

When you play as Dad, the son is a total ass.

If you play the son, he is not an ass, just a normal teenager.

 

[Dilettante]

That's why I didn't talk about the daughter, I agree with you there. They clearly do talk to each other a lot, as the daughter is pointed to as the one who is by far the closest to the son in the family. More interaction doesn't always lead to romantic desires though. It could be explained as simply as "she likes older guys".

What can we do about it then? If daughter unconsiously have a strong fetish for her daddy? We can sabotage him i guess on some point, to make daughter hate him.

I'm curious, what makes you say that?

I don't know, i have a feeling. Father obviously not really one of the people "who really cares". He cares only about daughter, in his own way (that you can call "fetish" or "obsession" too). I just like mom's personality and her point of view more. When she rages, i could understand why. Father maybe tries to make someone happy, but it's working only on daughter (who already 100% on his side anyway), and wife partially (only if you choose, and not perfectly at all).

When you play as Dad, the son is a total ass.

If you play the son, he is not an ass, just a normal teenager.

Dad is adult man, and being caring only to one sibling isn't really perfect. Son have a point to hate him. I don't see many situations, where son being an ass in father's route.

 

[Paranoid_android]

Besides that, If I'm not mistaken after the father and mother start the discussion over the divorce the dad pretty much goes straightforward towards the daughters room, then the next day spends it with her and finally the third day remembers he has a son and decides to look for him. I'm not saying the son has a stellar performance for son of the year, but he basically "can" try to see the reactions of other family members due to the possible divorce (even searching for the dad in guest room), just as well as the dad can do it but him (dad), doesn't try to check on his son until the third day and completely voids the son from interacting with him (since before events of the game apparently), so it is no surprise that the son doesn't actually wish to speak to the dad and speaks badly of him, plus the only time I remember the son being openly an ass towards the dad was on the second or third day when he ignores the request of the father to speak by saying sorry and leaves because he "needs" to check on his cousin situation.

Just so everyone knows, here's a direct quote on the father/son dynamic from the author itself in reply to another user in a different forum: Will it be possible to improve the relationship between father and son? I want to be a real dad for my junior.
Ah, unfortunately not. I'm afraid that there won't be any saving Junior from his blind bitterness towards his father, mostly due to their vast contrast in character. Plus, he's pretty much your average teenage shithead.

 

[Dilettante]

I think dad dislike son, unconsiously. Plus his obsession with daughter. He tries later to talk with son, to do something. But I can't really see what he really wants from this conversations (if he knows that son hate him now, and how devoid he feels), how sincere he is, and it's nothing like his interactions with daughter. The thing is, we can see son is more sincere in that attempts, he really wants to have good relationship with dad. At least i think so. He may not show it in every moment, but it's understandable (at least he's trying to save sister, and "save" cousin, even if it's just for "thanks"). He kinda even envious in some situations of daughter's relationship with dad. That's what i get from his thoughts.

 

[Paranoid_android]

Now that you mention it @Dilettante, indeed the son seemed kind of peeved (even jealous) about how much time the father and daughter spent it together, plus how quickly the father goes from caring to hopelessly romantic towards the daughter, even with tints of obsession confuses me a bit, I mean the son has moments of reflection of his stance with mom but the father goes full romantic on the daughter.

 

[fredoo04]

Aunt will certainly spice things up as she's described as both Envious Sister-In-law and Seductive Aunt!

 

[Dilettante]

plus how quickly the father goes from caring to hopelessly romantic towards the daughter, even with tints of obsession confuses me a bit, I mean the son has moments of reflection of his stance with mom but the father goes full romantic on the daughter.

Yeah, son is mostly have sexual feelings towards mom, and her body is playing a very big role. Father's feelings is almost entirely different. It's like first love or something.

Aunt will certainly spice things up as she's described as both Envious Sister-In-law and Seductive Aunt!

Seductive, but envious of what exactly? She wants to replace her sister? Can be a very interesting character. I imagine her as hungry, a lot more smart and experienced version of Karen. But maybe she will be complete opposite.

 

[fredoo04]

I too wonder what she will be envious of?

Hardly of your failing marriage or riches.. IIRC wife's getting a divorce because dad "failed to deliver what he promised her".
Maybe she's insecure because she got the boot from Karen's dad?
That way she would automatically be envious of any girl stealing a nearby man's attention because it would remind her of her past.

 

[Dilettante]

IIRC wife's getting a divorce because dad "failed to deliver what he promised her".

He is indeed failed.

Maybe she's insecure because she got the boot from Karen's dad?
That way she would automatically be envious of any girl stealing a nearby man's attention because it would remind her of her past.

I thinking of something like this too. And now she can try to take some sweet revenge. On both father and son, and her sister. Win-win situation for her ego.

 

[Rimmer]

I just happen to think the daughter looks like she's autistic or something. And yes, there is something wrong with me. I spend my hard-earned money supporting the creators of porn games!

How do you look autistic?, having an autistic son I can tell you he doesn't look any different from any other boy, he certainly acts differently though, really fucking annoys me how autism is used as some sort of insult....sigh.

 

[enokard]

Agree with Rimmer. Show respect to the individuals with autism, please.

 

[RobJoy]

Now that you mention it @Dilettante, indeed the son seemed kind of peeved (even jealous) about how much time the father and daughter spent it together, plus how quickly the father goes from caring to hopelessly romantic towards the daughter, even with tints of obsession confuses me a bit, I mean the son has moments of reflection of his stance with mom but the father goes full romantic on the daughter.

I got exact same feeling.

That is why I want to cock-block dad and get the Daughter myself.

 

[fredoo04]

Hmm.. judging by the number of replies / views this thread has, sometimes in the future Dual Family could end up in Popular Visual Novels. Actually, it could be the most popular Visual Novel if the ratio of replies / views continues like this (~200 000 views for ~470 replies). Good!

 

[Dilettante]

Hmm.. judging by the number of replies / views this thread has, sometimes in the future Dual Family could end up in Popular Visual Novels. Actually, it could be the most popular Visual Novel if the ratio of replies / views continues like this (~200 000 views for ~470 replies). Good!

And this game and Gumdrop Games completely deserve it! I hope even more people will play and love this awesome game, as much as we are.

 

[RobJoy]

Well, it is paced nicely enough.

Lacks options, but people are intrigued.