VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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RobJoy

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You might want to look up what the word donation actually means. Patreon is a subscription service not a charity. Also, Patreon's HQ is in California and is bound by US Federal and California law. If people felt like they were being defrauded then they could legally sue.
Patreon does not legally hold anyone accountable for not delivering what they post on their site.
It is purely a "good will" gesture between creator and patrons.

He promises stuff.
And he is not bound by those promises.

You are not paying for a product or services, you are merely supporting someone.
Like a friggen Red Cross.

Support and engage with artists and creators as they live out their passions!
 
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batman666

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I like the game. But the mother is friggin' ugly as hell. If he goes for a remaster, why not exchange her for something that resembles a female human being instead of some rare Pokémon?
 
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Joshua Tree

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I like the game. But the mother is friggin' ugly as hell. If he goes for a remaster, why not exchange her for something that resembles a female human being instead of some rare Pokémon?
Maybe he went for, idk, somethign that resemble an actual mom of that age, rather than a mom figure that look like a 20y something that a lot of these type of games does.
 

Dilettante

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I like the game. But the mother is friggin' ugly as hell. If he goes for a remaster, why not exchange her for something that resembles a female human being instead of some rare Pokémon?
It's just your opinion. Mother is hot and beautiful, and she actually looks like someone's mother. No one said she needs to be perfect in her age with two kids and dozen family drama. He tried to make poll about this not so long ago, and other "new" variant was pretty shitty. He make her look perfect and young. Someone may like that, but it's not "mother" in my opinion at all. I don't need "female human being" mother that look like youngish supermodel or porn star. Normal mature woman is what i want.
 

fredoo04

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His future work? Art in Daz Studio he makes? Him as person? Million reasons.
Don't tell me that if I would open a page on Patreon just about myself, without ever delivering any service or product to you, you would support me? i doubt it, that's not how it works.

I like the game. But the mother is friggin' ugly as hell. If he goes for a remaster, why not exchange her for something that resembles a female human being instead of some rare Pokémon?
I like how realistic she looks unlike mothers in other games.
That's what got me interested in the game in the first place.
She's beautiful to me.
 

batman666

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Maybe he went for, idk, somethign that resemble an actual mom of that age, rather than a mom figure that look like a 20y something that a lot of these type of games does.
Well, DOD certainly solved this better. Both the mom and the aunt are desireably. I do think the daughters' design is awesome, but the mom looks like a bird to me. However, I do get your point. I guess he must be doing something right by depicting her the way he did, as this thread is doing really well concerning views and replies. I was just stating my opinion. To me, the mom is the one thing that is holding the game back from being a 10/10.

It's just your opinion. Mother is hot and beautiful, and she actually looks like someone's mother. No one said she needs to be perfect in her age with two kids and dozen family drama. He tried to make poll about this not so long ago, and other "new" variant was pretty shitty. He make her look perfect and young. Someone may like that, but it's not "mother" in my opinion at all. I don't need "female human being" mother that look like youngish supermodel or porn star. Normal mature woman is what i want.
Of course it's just my opinion! I totally respect your opinion and if you enjoy her, well, that's great.

That's what got me interested in the game in the first place.
She's beautiful to me.
I can respect that. This is a forum and I just spoke my mind. Doesn't mean I can't respect other opinions. If you enjoy her looks, have fun playing that storyline. ;)
 

RobJoy

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I like the game. But the mother is friggin' ugly as hell. If he goes for a remaster, why not exchange her for something that resembles a female human being instead of some rare Pokémon?
Dev already said he is not going to change Mother and replace all the renders.

That alone could take at least a month.
 
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Dilettante

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Don't tell me that if I would open a page on Patreon just about myself, without ever delivering any service or product to you, you would support me? i doubt it, that's not how it works.
I've seen such pages, that's fact. And i've seen pages of people who don't plan to do anything, or some youtubers that have no videos. Don't know about me, i'm not that wealthy to support just everybody.

Well, DOD certainly solved this better. Both the mom and the aunt are desireably. I do think the daughters' design is awesome, but the mom looks like a bird to me. However, I do get your point. I guess he must be doing something right by depicting her the way he did, as this thread is doing really well concerning views and replies. I was just stating my opinion. To me, the mom is the one thing that is holding the game back from being a 10/10.
I like mom and aunt in Dreams of Desire, but they are very different from this mom right here. I can see where you getting "she looks like a bird" opinion though.
 
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RobJoy

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Don't tell me that if I would open a page on Patreon just about myself, without ever delivering any service or product to you, you would support me? i doubt it, that's not how it works.
You have the right to NOT support him, just as you can simply walk by beggars on the street.
No one is forcing you to throw him a penny.

But if you like him, you can give him monthly cash.
He is still going to be a beggar, but you will sleep better because you know he is doing a little bit better.

Same thing here.
 

fredoo04

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I will continue supporting Gumdrop and criticize him when I think something's off.
And you are trying to deny me of that right and persuade me to drop my monthly support.

I'm not solving problems that way... by going away and quitting.
I'm staying and giving my feedback .
 

Krieg

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I like the game. But the mother is friggin' ugly as hell. If he goes for a remaster, why not exchange her for something that resembles a female human being instead of some rare Pokémon?
And i fucking loving the mother same as DoD at least these two look like freaking Moms
 

fredoo04

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Where and who doing this? Me? I don't see that at all, people here just trying to express opinions on "how really patreon works". It's absurd dramatic situation. If you really don't like that Gumdrop can't reply to your messages, then you have rights to drop your monthly support. But nowhere i said you should do that. Criticize and give your feedback here zillion times, no one will object.
I was referring to RobJoy's constant reminders I can drop my support and move on.
 

Dilettante

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I was referring to RobJoy's constant reminders I can drop my support and move on.
He is right. But i don't see where he's trying to persuade you to drop your pledge, or saying "stop criticize Gumdrop". He was just trying to explain his view on patreon system, same as me. Maybe a bit harsh. You can, but it's not like you absolutely should stop supporting.
 
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Joshua Tree

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He is right. But i don't see where he's trying to persuade you to drop your pledge, or saying "stop criticize Gumdrop". He was just trying to explain his view on patreon system, same as me. Maybe a bit harsh. You can, but it's not like you absolutely should stop supporting.
I think some people once start support on Patreon goes into a "he working for me now" mentality, and get sort of entitled to feedback, a say, direct communication, whatever float their boat. But the system doesn't work like that. And no one entitled to anything. fk sake you can support silly stuff such as wreckless eating and watch them eat stupid shit on youtube but doesn't entitle you to forcefeed them babypoop or whatever :p
 

Dilettante

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I think some people once start support on Patreon goes into a "he working for me now" mentality, and get sort of entitled to feedback, a say, direct communication, whatever float their boat. But the system doesn't work like that. And no one entitled to anything. fk sake you can support silly stuff such as wreckless eating and watch them eat stupid shit on youtube but doesn't entitle you to forcefeed them babypoop or whatever :p
Hah, exactly, even i can't understand some things that people can support on patreon. There is a ton of bullshit "recipe" stuff. But i suppose that thinking "he working for me now" is kinda natural, given how pleasant it sounds, and what stuff authors usually write on their pages. It's natural to demand something, because "it's my money, work for it!" And then, when they realize that "no one entitled to anything", and "author isn't your slave", it's very hard to believe.
 
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fredoo04

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I'll just keep supporting him and doing my own thing - publicly giving feedback.
Sorry if it hurts anyone's feelings, they can block me.
 
2.10 star(s) 189 Votes