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- Apr 27, 2017
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But he's not legally obligated right? There's no legally binding contract or subscription service. Yet in this example you see your moral obligation, you understand you promised 'X' and thus you are now accountable for the value of your word.
If I picked up a girl, and she promised to split the bill halfway with me but then didn't, I would not take that girl out again because her word mean't nothing.
Obviously, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else wants to see the project tank though.
We'd much rather see an amazing game that could stand head to head with the best games on this site than...well, The Void.
My TV doesn't advertise the release date of a show and then when I tune in, tell me to try again next month.
Yes, I can relate to wanting to produce the highest quality possible. I hate feeling that I simply haven't done a good enough job. I am my own harshest critic.
What I cannot relate to is concocting crazy length-release cycles with promises I simply cannot keep. If I was facing down the barrel of a project that would take me over a year to release, I would:
A.) consider hiring help (Which he even admits he should have done).
B.) Re-evaluated whether this was the right way to release content, and whether I could break it down to produce a more steady work stream.
C.) Be upfront and honest that I couldn't set any release date in stone.
- Jul 10, 2017
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Your tv doesn't necessary advertise, but there been series I have followed that ended season with a cliff hanger and then later find out the show was cancelled. Also I was more thinking (pointing towards) the time between seasons. Just look at how long time it taken between previous season of like GOT and when next (last) one will air.
In regard of hire help, idk. With projects such as this, it could just as well help dilute the whole thing and make it into something entire else. Would you hire people to help you write a story? Would it still be your story? I know people who write books etc hire researchers to help them with fact checks, background material and such, but not quite the same.
As a creator, regardless of what it is really. Doubt and second guessing yourself is a curse. Sometimes you just end up create a monster that take on its own life. Hence you end up break dead lines and release dates you set for yourself. Why I kinda a firm believer of "it's ready when it done". Much better than set a dead line that get rushed, and you get served a pile of dung.
Atm I picture Gumdrop in an awful big car, with many backseats filled with kids keep repeating; "are we there yet?"
- Aug 17, 2017
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I think the point he's making is that GumDrop did advertise a release date and then failed to deliver on time which is pretty standard for him tbh.
a release date that even he admitted was built with insane buffer time...... and to beat the next incoming response, no one asked for the christmas update!
- Feb 21, 2018
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ok the Switzrland part crack me half neven if i'm sick, because it's pure true ahahah
- Jun 1, 2017
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I am surprised by people who are trying to justify his incompetence.
- Jul 10, 2017
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I'm surprised over the verbal abuse and sticks'n stones tossed at him. Does that help any? Who look the most foolish over such?
- Feb 21, 2018
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yo there is also carnivale, Easter, and don't forget the chinese new yearNope, next year maybe if the dev don't make another extra chrismas/halloween/st patrick/... version before
- Jun 1, 2017
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Why precisely you responded to the reproach about the protection of incompetence? Did you take it personally?
- Feb 21, 2018
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I just want to tell something to the moderators, i'm coming back to these thread, not only for undestand in which perfection time he will feel comfortable to gift the patroen's, but also to read and have fun, because this all thread is just a meme it's should be tagged like comedy or something like this, but i hope you will not close, because i'm having fun reading all these comments.
- Apr 27, 2017
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That's the risk you take investing in any series. The same risk is still ever present even with the major release coming in one huge update, he could just pull out now and you'll be once again left in the dark.
I act as a writer for a game. I'm given some direction where he wants the story to go and everything I write is run by him first so it sticks to his vision.
But really Gumdrops doesn't need a writer, (He'd despise the idea of another writer anyway, it would be a fruitless endeavor).
WHAT HE CAN HIRE however, are coders, other artists skilled in DAZ who can help with posing/scenes etc. They would be able to easily speed up the production rate.
Yes, deadlines can get broken, shit can go wrong, that's life.
What you do in those circumstances in own up to the fact you made a mistake, hope people forgive you, and don't make the same mistake once again. The first time it happens it can be chalked up to a variety of things, naivety, inexperience etc. The problem comes when you don't learn and make the same mistakes over...and over....and over....and over....again.
Personally, I picture Gumdrops a lot more like this:
- Jul 10, 2017
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Nah, I have no reason to take any of this personal. I do feel a bit pity over what some of human kind fallen to though. Just alongside the legion of dotards etc.Why precisely you responded to the reproach about the protection of incompetence? Did you take it personally?
- Jun 1, 2017
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Well, he is really incompetent, people see it and express their feelings in comments, there is no need to insult or blame them.
- Jul 10, 2017
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Just as they have no real reason for verbal abuse of gumdrop right? You can be critical of someone and something without turn into a mob. I said it a few times, vote with your money. It's the strongest argument you have, and if you haven't spent a dime to start with, do you then have something to complain about? It's over half a year since I gave any to Gumdrops patreon. If he deliver on the next release (whenever), maybe I tip his jar again.
Money for (almost) nothing and people still defending your demeanour - I call that highly competent. That's genius.
I picture him like this:
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- Jun 12, 2017
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why are you even on this thread ? when the last update dropped, this thread was at page 180. meaning literally half of it is people complaining, mocking, calling the dev names etc. he delays this SINGLE update for like the 4th time probably. you think you will change anything by being a white knight ? the whole thread is a joke for months now. everyone here knows that gumdrop is a conman and his patreons mentally challenged.
Well it's time to switch that abandoned tag for this game. In my timeline it's nearly 00:30. And this dev failed again to deliver an update on his/her own deadline. ABANDONED tag pls.
- Jun 1, 2017
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Why do you think that among these commentators there are no people who were not his patrons? Besides the fact that people express their thoughts here, they warn newbies in such a way that this developer regularly fails his target release dates, constantly transferring them. After all, many people learn about games from this site and become patrons.
Moreover, each developer must be prepared for the consequences of his mistakes, and he has them. After all, as they say, There is no smoke without fire.