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doubt gd gives a rats ass about any ones comments, mean or notGumdrop reading the mean comments
- Oct 1, 2017
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Hey Dreamer -
Good suggestions, I won't stop anyone from giving these games a shot. However, keep in mind a general rule (mine, not anyone else): Wait until a game hits a 2nd update before trying. Less disappointment that way...
Even established devs deserve an update or two to get their sh... stuff together.
Photo Hunt-Version 0.1 is looking pretty promising, but be aware i had some issues playing this game, it froze at some point when i had done quite some progress and the worst part there was no loading the game since i didn't see any save options available.
I'd wait for other updates, at least one that we can save the game.
Why is the producer always lying? why not be honest with people?
first 25 January he said, then said 3 weeks retention. constantly saying different excuses and lies.
first 25 January he said, then said 3 weeks retention. constantly saying different excuses and lies.
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Because Gumdrop is a good businessman. Whether you like it or not, he already has mastered how to drip feed the right amount of content in order to retain Patreon supporters. There's no reason (yet...) for him to do updates while the money is rolling in.
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I'm pretty sure he peaked at 12k and now hes under 8k he's lost over a 1/3 of his income before tax. Thats not good business; i think its more likely the dude is just an amateur in over his head.
In my opinion the real problem, of this creators of game is Patreon, my argument is simple, to pay a person for advance to do a certain job, it leads to this person to think "so that I will endeavor doing this work if I was already paid and I am very aware that even if I do not bring new or quality content, I have an audience that defends or accepts these terms from me? "
Examples:
Lewdlab: Dream of desire, last chapters lack of quality.
Midnight Paradise, a development of between 6 to 7 months, lack of quality, Cliché history, lack of content (I had about 250 renders even though I had said it was going to be the biggest update), the launch of the game was in December , delayed it to January and delayed it again to February, the game was broken at its launch.
Summertime Saga
Win 48,586, get updates every 4 or 5 months with lack of content and quality, play the new content in 15 minutes of which 11 minutes is repeating again and again the same, you can not take a progression in the game because the saves of your previous game does not work in the new updates.
A Wife And Mother
A game with more than a year of development, between about 8 to 9 update (it has updates 6.5 so I do not know exactly how many updates have been released.) It has no content is a porn game without porn, a boring story for a porn game has a lot of dialogue left over and the most positive thing about this game is the "REALISM" I do not know where, but there it is.
What is your opinion and why do you think so?
Examples:
Lewdlab: Dream of desire, last chapters lack of quality.
Midnight Paradise, a development of between 6 to 7 months, lack of quality, Cliché history, lack of content (I had about 250 renders even though I had said it was going to be the biggest update), the launch of the game was in December , delayed it to January and delayed it again to February, the game was broken at its launch.
Summertime Saga
Win 48,586, get updates every 4 or 5 months with lack of content and quality, play the new content in 15 minutes of which 11 minutes is repeating again and again the same, you can not take a progression in the game because the saves of your previous game does not work in the new updates.
A Wife And Mother
A game with more than a year of development, between about 8 to 9 update (it has updates 6.5 so I do not know exactly how many updates have been released.) It has no content is a porn game without porn, a boring story for a porn game has a lot of dialogue left over and the most positive thing about this game is the "REALISM" I do not know where, but there it is.
What is your opinion and why do you think so?
- Jul 10, 2017
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Well, the thing is... you don't pay for a product or subscribe to a service. You support a creator.
How about podcasts, youtube channels, twitch streamers, text writers, music composers, comic makers, and a WHOLE fuckton of other kind of creators and shit on Patreon? They all got fan's and supporters for all kind of reasons.
You as a consumer got the choice of support them, or just close the door and walk away.
In regard of "Wife And Mother", you are using the reference porn game. But an Adult game doesn't necessary need to be a full fledged fuckfest. An adult (whatever), is just a description of mature topics that is not suitable for minors.
A creators success (or not) on Patreon doesn't necessary reflect on their quality of work, and work ethics. When a creators Patreon balloon, the added income doesn't necessary increase their capacity or work hours possible on what they do. They can use funds to improve the tools they use, but they can't buy more hours in a day. I don't think hardly anyone on Patreon got a proper plan in place in case of them become somewhat successful. And even few'er got even the faintest idea of become a small business owner, create a studio, hire people and so forth.
In case of Lust and Passion's Wife and mother; It say's on his patreon if he reach 6500 he cancel his college courses and spend more time work on the games. Like, that fucking retarded. With any game development, adult or not, you are only as good as your last release. Just look at the fucking disaster Bioware's Anthem turn out to be. And Bioware used to be solid in deliver good games (in the past). At least a education is a investment into your future. Making games (or anything else) on Patreon is rather sketchy at best.
In case of DC and summertime Saga. I used to support, but then he changed direction and turned the game into something else. So no more cookies for him (from me). Doesn't look like he will starve anytime soon though.
The problem with Bioware is that most of the talented people they had are no longer there, currently Bioware is simply the name of the copyright that EA owns. If you want to investigate it, the team that made Mass effect andromeda, do not work with them either.
I have never been able to see Patreon as a page to support, basically it is for the payments in advance, because really patreon and your payment in advance are in realities monthly subscriptions for the fact that your pay determined money and you receive certain benefits and the more you pay, the better these benefits are; Example: (since you do not use things related to porn I'll do it too) Netflix the more pay better is the quality of images and the number of devices in which you can use it.
You used twitch, if it is a means by which people support their creators of content, because people who donate or subscribe do not receive direct benefits from the person they supported, if these people subscribed or gave money to the creator of content to be able to unlock this content that basically is to buy the content, but not to support the creator.
As for A Wife And Mother never clarified by the creator that it is a mature game And not porn, for the information that is given is a porn game. I give you an example because this porn game is wrong:
If you go and buy a porn movie, which is based on talking, talking and talking until the content ends and it did not have porno content but it was distributed as such then it is a hoax.
PD: If you have any information where the creator said the game is mature, please share it here.
All the examples that I publish are of negative things, so the I said that they earned 48,586 is negative, so you yourself said that this capital is not directed to the game. And that is also one of the negative points of patreon, it does not have a team of people who supervise that the capital that donates to the creators is spent in the right way. (This also includes the expenses and benefits that developers must have, but it does not justify that the vast majority of capital is spent on only personal things and that they never invest anything in the product they develop.)
Example: If you donate a certain amount of capital for the improvement of housing for the very poor, but you eventually learn that the donation collection was a success and then you will review what were the improvements in housing and you find that very poor people did not improve at all and rather live in housing even worse than they already were, but the people who participated in the collection of donations now live in luxurious homes because they used the capital donations for your benefit, that's called scam. and patreon works like this.
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I support a couple youtube channels on patreon for.. I guess you can call it entertainment value. But not everything of it appeals to me, but some of it enough that I do support. What you see Patreon as, doesn't really matter at all. It is what Patreon define itself as, that does matter. A place to support creators. That you read into that as you can subscribe to a service, or buy something is flawed.
I mentioned twitch as there is twitch streamers that does Patreon as well. I didn't mention twitch as an alternate way to get revenues/support.
Uh, I don't really see what Netflix got to do with anything. True the cost of your subscription can increase the service provided. But it doesn't increase the content available. The more money they make the more series and movies they can make themselves. But that not really the point. When I subscribe to netflix I know exactly what I get. When I pledge on Patreon I never know what I end up with one month from the other. I can just base my support on what I got out of it prior. If I'm not happy over how things turn out, I just pull my support and that it.
Go to Lust and passions page on Patreon, does it say anywhere he is creating a PORN game? Just because something say "Adult" doesn't necessary mean porn. Adult can just as well read "NOT FOR MINORS".. ESBR ratting.. ADULT... "You need to be THIS TALL to ride this carousel. Got it now?" You could tease your wife (whatever) for reading "Fifty Shades Of Grey". Directly porn its not, but its not a book you would want to give to your 10 yr old kid.. Also, if you can claim "Wife And Mother" is presented, and distributed as a PORN GAME", on Lust and Passions Patreon page... I think your carousel is broken
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If you could stop pushing this narrative, or at least add a disclaimer* next to your holier-than-thou statements where we would acknowledge the existence of the patreons who reserve the right to treat patreon as a content delivery service, because it is a legitimate way of using and treating the service, that would be great™.
If a creator sets a date for the next iteration of his content and then:
- breaks a date
- releases whole another content that no one asked for
- sets a date for a release but releases on the next month to get more money
- releases broken content on the 30th and uploads fixed content next month
Then it is a logical thing not to support that kind of behavior and a business model where every type of discussion is locked away behind $ tier posts or behind a discord server where a bunch of riders are on their high horses.
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Well, I not saying anything else than what Patreon itself state. Maybe you should contact Patreon about it if you want to see changes? Referring to the guidelines of Patreon doesn't give a holier-than-thou statement. You might be hard pressed to get them to change anything as they state; "Patreon is not responsible for the quality, timing or legality of content or rewards. "
If you could stop pushing this narrative, or at least add a disclaimer* next to your holier-than-thou statements where we would acknowledge the existence of the patreons who reserve the right to treat patreon as a content delivery service, because it is a legitimate way of using and treating the service, that would be great™.
If a creator sets a date for the next iteration of his content and then:
- breaks a date
- releases whole another content that no one asked for
- sets a date for a release but releases on the next month to get more money
- releases broken content on the 30th and uploads fixed content next month
Then it is a logical thing not to support that kind of behavior and a business model where every type of discussion is locked away behind $ tier posts or behind a discord server where a bunch of riders are on their high horses.
All the things you state is valid reasons for stop support the creator. But again that is a personal choice of each and everyone who support the creator. Patreon is so much more than a platform for adult games. If you want to release some of your frustration with some therapeutic knitting, try @
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You think that creator in question have supporters that get furious if she doesn't release a new pattern every month?
- Sep 14, 2017
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It suddenly got cold yesterday, so a wool scarf schematic would be delightful. Might just do the knitting and wrap myself up in it while I write a JoshuaTreeBot.py that automatically quotes Patreon guidelines to user submitted posts, because, apparently, that's what you do in this thread. I don't really care about the official Patreon rules and guidelines; they have moved away from any responsibility and knocking on their door for any rules and regulations about scamming practices leads to nowhere - same outcome as contacting the author via his means of contact.
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Then what good does it hamper about it here? When you don't care, and have no interest in bring your grievance forward to those that can do anything about it? If they got a charter that say X and Y, and while ignore it, it doesn't change the fact. Whether Patreon is a bad platform when it come to hold hold creators accountable for their promises that is another tale, and something that would be very hard for Patreon to police. Only the users can police that, and it come in the form of close the door to a creator when you feel they no longer provide what you wanted out of it.