VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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One Giant Dead, One Man Standing





Good news is one of the bastards (animations) are done, not the other though. FatCat is refunding me for the one that wasn’t completed before his military leave, meaning we’ll take the pieces and hand them off to another animator to wrap things up ASAP.

While FatCat's work was amazing and I'm excited to share it in Part X, the release is a year behind schedule; The animator we contract for 1 (one) animation will need to agree with the strict, short term deadline we set or it won't be initiated with said animator in the first place.



We’ve been doing our own looking the past few days between Act II dev; if you guys have a favorite Blender and/or Overwatch adult animator, DM their name and we’ll be sure to check them out/send a message if they’re viable and can meet the deadline set.

So far as an announced date, let us grab our animator first before jumping the gun for the nth time. Let's get the hell out of the woods once and for all
The update is over a year behind schedule, really it's like a year and a half. Wasn't his first release date in like July of 2018? I remember there was one in at least October or September of that year. 1.5 years behind because of animations, and only now has he started looking for a new animator lol.

And he says now the animator will need to stick with a strict short term deadline to make it seem like the update will be out soon (and again, why didn't he do this much earlier and instead chose to delay the update by 1.5 years?) but you already know his next excuses are going to be how difficult it is to find a new animator, and I guarantee you we'll see him say he found a new animator and they'll miss the deadline.

If an update does ever come it won't be anytime soon. If it does ever come it will have taken over 2 years to complete, and it obviously won't have nearly enough content to live up to that much development time, because he spent the majority of that development time working on his excuses, not the game.
 

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The update is over a year behind schedule, really it's like a year and a half. Wasn't his first release date in like July of 2018? I remember there was one in at least October or September of that year. 1.5 years behind because of animations, and only now has he started looking for a new animator lol.

And he says now the animator will need to stick with a strict short term deadline to make it seem like the update will be out soon (and again, why didn't he do this much earlier and instead chose to delay the update by 1.5 years?) but you already know his next excuses are going to be how difficult it is to find a new animator, and I guarantee you we'll see him say he found a new animator and they'll miss the deadline.

If an update does ever come it won't be anytime soon. If it does ever come it will have taken over 2 years to complete, and it obviously won't have nearly enough content to live up to that much development time, because he spent the majority of that development time working on his excuses, not the game.
You, sir, need to learn to read properly before making shitposts like that. I mean no offense but I really start to wonder how people can be and STAY such dickheads over a long overdue topic that hasn't changed for past 8 month.

First, the two animations were supposed to be made by FatCat (while GDs team works on future stuff w/e). Of COURSE he just started to look for a new animator if FatCat ditched 50% of the job. We don't know what was going on in the background so let's not pretend we do.

I really get it that people were angry after the first major deadline just got completely ignored (basicaly) trust me I do. Even I took a moment and vented the shit about GDs misbehavior and things he could've done better and so on and so forth but at some point..? It's enough. It simply is enough. It's not worth spending more energy or anger into this topic because there is nothing you can do to improve the situation. I stopped pledging on Patreon and now I'm just waiting. I'm waiting without being desperate because my life still offers some other interests I can follow. And yes, I'm judging you - All of you whiney little kids who got nothing to add but the usual "Scam" and "We need to protect society from GumDrop!" and other tinfoil-hat theories.
Get over it, seriously.

And before some smartass thinks "Oh, this is a good opportunity to reply with the usual 'Oh look a GD-defender-tard!'" .. save yourself the trouble because you obviously can't read. There is no doubt that GD could've managed things better and more transparent. At this point all things have been said and done. Or do you really think your opinion is unique and matters after 15 months?
Time to grow up, folks. You can start shitting on the game again once it gets released and share all your valuable world-views with the rest of us.
 

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You, sir, need to learn to read properly before making shitposts like that. I mean no offense but I really start to wonder how people can be and STAY such dickheads over a long overdue topic that hasn't changed for past 8 month.

First, the two animations were supposed to be made by FatCat (while GDs team works on future stuff w/e). Of COURSE he just started to look for a new animator if FatCat ditched 50% of the job. We don't know what was going on in the background so let's not pretend we do.

I really get it that people were angry after the first major deadline just got completely ignored (basicaly) trust me I do. Even I took a moment and vented the shit about GDs misbehavior and things he could've done better and so on and so forth but at some point..? It's enough. It simply is enough. It's not worth spending more energy or anger into this topic because there is nothing you can do to improve the situation. I stopped pledging on Patreon and now I'm just waiting. I'm waiting without being desperate because my life still offers some other interests I can follow. And yes, I'm judging you - All of you whiney little kids who got nothing to add but the usual "Scam" and "We need to protect society from GumDrop!" and other tinfoil-hat theories.
Get over it, seriously.

And before some smartass thinks "Oh, this is a good opportunity to reply with the usual 'Oh look a GD-defender-tard!'" .. save yourself the trouble because you obviously can't read. There is no doubt that GD could've managed things better and more transparent. At this point all things have been said and done. Or do you really think your opinion is unique and matters after 15 months?
Time to grow up, folks. You can start shitting on the game again once it gets released and share all your valuable world-views with the rest of us.
I always loved optimists ;)
 

ArxiDemon

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And before some smartass thinks "Oh, this is a good opportunity to reply with the usual 'Oh look a GD-defender-tard!'"
Dude, you must really believe you wrote some unique post, don't you? Actually, it doesn't really matter. Whether you're GD sycophant or not. It's hard for me to imagine that you seriously believed that by sending this "post of reconciliation" everyone would suddenly calm down, let go of their anger and start discussing how much interesting content and animation GD had prepared for them.
 

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Time to grow up, folks. You can start shitting on the game again once it gets released and share all your valuable world-views with the rest of us.
Bruh...


1.) Anyone's whose earnestly still waiting for this game is delusional, (That includes you).

2.) A solid 99% of us are here for memes, because that's all this thread is, there is a reason this thread is largely un-moderated.

3.) Nobody takes Gumdrops seriously, and most of the rage is faux at best at this point because we understand he's a joke and it's been on-going for two years. No one can still honestly be pent up with rage screaming at a computer after that long.

4.) I highly recommend you go here first before missing the joke that hard next time, (for future notice).

And before some smartass thinks "Oh, this is a good opportunity to reply with the usual 'Oh look a GD-defender-tard!'"
Nah, but I am a smart ass.
 

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And yes, I'm judging you - All of you whiney little kids who got nothing to add but the usual "Scam" and "We need to protect society from GumDrop!" and other tinfoil-hat theories.
Get over it, seriously.
If you're tired of reading about the only thing worth discussing about this game for the past 2 years, then just leave the thread. Better yet, go to his Discord. Sounds like you'd be a perfect fit there.
 

Joshua Tree

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First, the two animations were supposed to be made by FatCat (while GDs team works on future stuff w/e). Of COURSE he just started to look for a new animator if FatCat ditched 50% of the job. We don't know what was going on in the background so let's not pretend we do.
There is quite a lot of "conspiracy theories" and accusations dropped on GD it's worth speak up against, because... Common sense. GD throwing FatCat under the bus... Not one of them.

GD reached the pinnacle of what is a terrible developer. Credited and earned all by himself. If you going to throw a noose around someones neck, there is no need to invent all kind of shit in addition to make up a reason for it.
 

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Everyone is shitting on lurker but he has a point. This thread is just a giant circlejerk just as much as gumdrop's discord. "look at us we don't get fooled by GD, we're smart XDDDD" I already made a post abou this a year ago. There is nothing wrong with keeping everyone up to date on what bullshit gumdrop has to say and make memes about it, but this constant echoing of the same arguing is just as bad as gumdrop's lil click.
 

ArxiDemon

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This thread is just a giant circlejerk just as much as gumdrop's discord. "look at us we don't get fooled by GD, we're smart XDDDD"
Action equals counteraction. Or your logic dictates that everybody pretend to be okay and that everything is originally planned. Be glad you've only waited two years instead of three!
 
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thenono

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If you're tired of reading about the only thing worth discussing about this game for the past 2 years, then just leave the thread. Better yet, go to his Discord. Sounds like you'd be a perfect fit there.
Sounds like they are already from there to be honest, most of the rant has been said over there a hundred times, normally after some one questions GD's integrity and just before the ban hammer lands..... We've had Abby maybe its someone else's turn

As for the comment about lack of likes and comments, I can once again confirm that GD deletes any negative questions or comments on his posts, and on some occasions has even prevented any comments being made
 
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First, the two animations were supposed to be made by FatCat (while GDs team works on future stuff w/e). Of COURSE he just started to look for a new animator if FatCat ditched 50% of the job. We don't know what was going on in the background so let's not pretend we do.
When he gave the deadline of January 25th, 2019 which he announced in September or October of 2018 the animations were in development since at least then, that's at least 15-16 months. It doesn't really matter what was going on in the background because there is no excuse, animations don't take that long to make. Fatcat was either too busy or incompetent, so why not after 1 or 3 or 6 months didn't gumdrop say we're gonna get a different animator who can get these out quicker. Why wait 15-16 months to finally do that?

And the reason why gumdrop has not given any transparency into the delays is because there is no real reason gumdrop can give that makes him look good, especially when you consider that Fatcat is not incompetent and the fact that he put out a lot of work in the past 15-16 months.

And yes, I'm judging you - All of you whiney little kids who got nothing to add but the usual "Scam" and "We need to protect society from GumDrop!" and other tinfoil-hat theories.
Get over it, seriously.

And before some smartass thinks "Oh, this is a good opportunity to reply with the usual 'Oh look a GD-defender-tard!'" .. save yourself the trouble because you obviously can't read. There is no doubt that GD could've managed things better and more transparent. At this point all things have been said and done. Or do you really think your opinion is unique and matters after 15 months?
Time to grow up, folks. You can start shitting on the game again once it gets released and share all your valuable world-views with the rest of us.
This is a forum to discuss porn games. People enjoy talking about this game in particular because it's clear to anyone with half a brain cell that gumdrop is taking advantage of his supporters, yet he is getting massive amounts of money. It's interesting for people to point out how nothing gumdrop is doing makes sense because people keep believing his bullshit. It's a bizarre situation, why do you care if people enjoy talking about it lol?

Congratulations you're better than gumdrop and his supporters because you called them out, and you're better than the people in this thread because you called them out too. Wow, you don't care either way and you're better than everyone, good for you.
 
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You, sir, need to learn to read properly before making shitposts like that. I mean no offense but I really start to wonder how people can be and STAY such dickheads over a long overdue topic that hasn't changed for past 8 month.

First, the two animations were supposed to be made by FatCat (while GDs team works on future stuff w/e). Of COURSE he just started to look for a new animator if FatCat ditched 50% of the job. We don't know what was going on in the background so let's not pretend we do.

I really get it that people were angry after the first major deadline just got completely ignored (basicaly) trust me I do. Even I took a moment and vented the shit about GDs misbehavior and things he could've done better and so on and so forth but at some point..? It's enough. It simply is enough. It's not worth spending more energy or anger into this topic because there is nothing you can do to improve the situation. I stopped pledging on Patreon and now I'm just waiting. I'm waiting without being desperate because my life still offers some other interests I can follow. And yes, I'm judging you - All of you whiney little kids who got nothing to add but the usual "Scam" and "We need to protect society from GumDrop!" and other tinfoil-hat theories.
Get over it, seriously.

And before some smartass thinks "Oh, this is a good opportunity to reply with the usual 'Oh look a GD-defender-tard!'" .. save yourself the trouble because you obviously can't read. There is no doubt that GD could've managed things better and more transparent. At this point all things have been said and done. Or do you really think your opinion is unique and matters after 15 months?
Time to grow up, folks. You can start shitting on the game again once it gets released and share all your valuable world-views with the rest of us.
There is no game here. This is an abandoned project and no evidence of continued work has been presented, at all: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/post-2398851 . This is impossible to explain if you assume that he is just a "milker"/slow as opposed to a scammer that is doing no work and leeching off an abandoned project.

After countless excuses that collapsed on their own it's clear that the scam is becoming harder to defend, hence the influx of shills lately (at least 1 of them from his discord). That's where people like you come in: you pretend to be a skeptic while promoting the idea that work is being done ("this time for real guys"), that the garbage the scammer writes has, by itself, any value. In reality, there is still no evidence and you can't get over that fundamental problem. That's why your efforts won't work. Go back to his discord if rational people tire you.

I will keep warning naive people about this scam for as long as I can. It has nothing to do with "sounding smart" but with undermining a scammer and helping other people. After all, it costs me nothing.

I woulld like to ask again: will mods consider an [Inactive] tag for cases like these with no development for more than 1 year? the [Onhold] tag is regularly used on games with honest devs, who admit they won't be doing anything for a while. Putting obvious scams like these under the same label is unfair to honest devs. Some differentiation is needed. It would be a nice addition to the forums considering that situations like these will likely become more common in the future.


It's interesting for people to point out how nothing gumdrop is doing makes sense because people keep believing his bullshit. It's a bizarre situation, why do you care if people enjoy talking about it lol?
This is the reason why these shills are so suspicious. Why would they care about people being "too tough" on someone they themselves claim not to trust? not a very natural position to have. Something tells me that they are afraid to be honest about themselves (like the discord shill caught before).
 
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This is becoming suspicious and interesting. View attachment 513072
Why? Reading FatCat's twitter, you find him mention civil service before as well. But sometimes you don't necessary get a choice in the matter. In my country you can apply for the same, but you need to give a "valid" reason why you don't want to serve regular service. No idea how it's done in Finland though, but doubt it's a "pick and chose". More based on the need.

Him releasing the animations he had prepared in advance to release on a month by month basis, every 3 days instead to his Patreons, just come across as good "fan service".
 

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This is becoming suspicious and interesting.
Why? Reading FatCat's twitter, you find him mention civil service before as well. But sometimes you don't necessary get a choice in the matter. In my country you can apply for the same, but you need to give a "valid" reason why you don't want to serve regular service. No idea how it's done in Finland though, but doubt it's a "pick and chose". More based on the need.

Him releasing the animations he had prepared in advance to release on a month by month basis, every 3 days instead to his Patreons, just come across as good "fan service".
Joshua, do you really not get it or are you truly just a shill? Fatcat, according to the sources gathered by the posters here, did a) put out a lot of his animations before he went to the army and b) now he will put out stuff he could not post before he went to service, within a rather short amount of time now. This Fatcat might be many things, but slow he is not!

Now this fracking a... named gumdrop announced the animations roundabout 1 1/2 years ago and that Fatcat would do them soon after. As it is quite obvious now, Fatcat would not need so long for the animations and more, definitely he would not leave before finishing and sending such "old" work" before going to the army as he did these days for a ton of other clients.
Shamed be he who thinks evil of it that gumdrop did not get the animations, at least according to himself.

There are only two scenarios: Either gumdrop never ordered animations from Fatcat at all or Fatcat delivered them months ago and is abused and shitted on by gumdrop, because this sinkhole of humanity is running out of excuses.

Everyone of the longtimers here knows that gumdrop is a proven chronic and compulsive liar and we already presaged early on that gumdrop would use Fatcat for excuses.
 

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GD said that FatCat refunded him for the animation he was supposed to do but didn't do before going to the military. Well then, if he's switching to civil service mainly because this way he'll be able to animate, AND if he already mentioned civil service in the past, that makes me think he was not so granitic about the military choice, and always wanted to continue his animations. I ask myself then, WHY would FatCat accept to do just ONE animation for GD and refund the remaining one, if his idea was to keep animating anyways? I'm telling you guys, FatCat never mentioned GD in his twitter. I'm pretty sure at this point, that the poor guy is just a scapegoat, an unaware one at that.
 
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