VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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May 7, 2017
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So I just finished playing both routes, father/son and the father's route variations, and I've got to say it was a bit underwhelming, I mean it wasn't exactly just 10 minutes of game-play but... it sort of felt like that. To make it concise, I've got to say this update was heavily catered towards the Dad's route, with him raising relationship points left and right by doing almost nothing, (not that I didn't enjoy his perspective)... and as for the son's route, I felt it merely was there as an afterthought with some light story progression with blank spaces for this update (blank spaces = example: shopping scene with the mom, cut content, maybe?), that throughout the update leads to not being able to raise any points towards any relationships.
 
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macadam

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what a shitty update...

i mean ..

we dont care for polishing the uneeded ... we want more. the game is still short and nothing very interresting inside.

stop wasting time to polishing the useless things and give us a update for make the story/game bigger and longer...

that update sound like a shit trick way to hope keeping patreon while doing nothing .
 
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How to improve this game: Erase the son route and make Karen call you daddy everytime she's with you, so he can keep the Dual Family name! :test:
Maybe at this point that might be the right thing to do, since so little was developed for the son route :ForeverAlone: and we can clearly see a bias towards the dad's character and story progression :p
 
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supanova999

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I swear to god this dev is feature-creeping his own game to death. Nobody asked for hidden collectables. Nobody asked for silly puzzles. Nobody asked for this stupid swappable clothing feature (which btw he wasn't even able to finish for this update?).
And now I hear he had to cut out the shopping scene because he ran out of time. So nobody has access to what would have been an excellent scene with plenty of opportunity for titillating content, all because of this dev and his stupid feature-creep ideas. Cutting out significant content like this to make room for ideas nobody asked for is unacceptable.
His patrons desperately need to tell him the old adage: Keep it simple, stupid.
 
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I swear to god this dev is feature-creeping his own game to death. Nobody asked for hidden collectables. Nobody asked for silly puzzles. Nobody asked for this stupid swappable clothing feature (which btw he wasn't even able to finish for this update?).
And now I hear he had to cut out the shopping scene because he ran out of time. So nobody has access to what would have been an excellent scene with plenty of opportunity for titillating content, all because of this dev and his stupid feature-creep ideas. Cutting out significant content like this to make room for ideas nobody asked for is unacceptable.
His patrons desperately need to tell him the old adage: Keep it simple, stupid.
Agree completely. Mind boggling to me that he actively cut out a chunk of story content so he could work on a clothes changing mechanic.
The hidden collectibles I actually think is a good idea (lets the player have some sexy renders without having to have the story at the point where that would make sense) but everything else he's added is absurdly stupid and time consuming.
 

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I swear to god this dev is feature-creeping his own game to death. Nobody asked for hidden collectables. Nobody asked for silly puzzles. Nobody asked for this stupid swappable clothing feature (which btw he wasn't even able to finish for this update?).
And now I hear he had to cut out the shopping scene because he ran out of time. So nobody has access to what would have been an excellent scene with plenty of opportunity for titillating content, all because of this dev and his stupid feature-creep ideas. Cutting out significant content like this to make room for ideas nobody asked for is unacceptable.
His patrons desperately need to tell him the old adage: Keep it simple, stupid.
I thought this shit last month when the excuse was something that was geniunely like day one shit like something to do with not being able to figure out how to properly decrype images or something of the sort, and then this month another seemlying basic thing conveniently holds back the release until after the new month starts so the patreon pledges go through.

I mean I don't even want to necessarily badmouth someone for making a game or anything, but it is pretty obvious from anyone who keeps up with "real" games and shit that this is the exact shit certain scam artist early access "developers" do on Steam until eventually once in a while their shit gets banned and refunds are handed out.

But I mean at this point it seems there are two options: he either has absolutely no business actually making a game due to his lack of computer skills(in which case he should just open up a literotica account or something) or he's intentionally sabotaging shit and using "issues" as an excuse for his obvious lack of actual work being done in hopes people won't get wise.

Look at the work irredeemable puts out, look at the man of the house guy's output, each episode of DMD is bigger than this whole fucking game(regardless of what you think of the milking), Dreams of Desire, list goes on and on.

Like someone else said, it is pretty obvious he's doing less than a week's worth of work for monthly updates if you compare and contrast to what other single man operations are putting out.

I honestly don't know why I care so much other than it seems straight bullshit that people blindly eat this guy's stuff up and shit on other people who are obvious scam artists doing the same thing, yet guys who are doing ten times the quality and output he is aren't making half of the donations he gets.
 
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Ozygator

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There has never been once when Gumdropgames released the game without any hiccups and almost everytime he comes up with some sort of excuses, it doesn't take anymore than 5 mins to finish his new update. The story isn't that compelling like Dating My Daughter and Dreams of Desire just some run of the mill generic incest story. What's disappointing is that he has the liberty of posting nude pinups of mom and sis in his patreon but can't incorporate those in the game due to the story progression being so damn slow because we are not remotely close to such a relationship with the significant other while this being the 5th update. To a certain extent i can understand the gratifying experience of earning something rather than being just given to you. And now that he is going to introduce the Aunt cuz why obviously he wouldn't every damn game is doing it he might just milk the same idea (screw coming up with something original), it gives him the green light to make the game even more tediously cocktease. From what we have seen so far my premonition is we won't be able to bone shit until ACT 50 or something arrives.
Well you can always unsub your Patreon and stop playing the game if you don't like the progresion or developers actions.

Wait, what's that? You're not a Patreon? Well then you don't have much room to talk do you, since you're playing someone else's work for FREE. Good grief, the entitlement mentality in this thread is outrageous.

(And this goes to all bitching and whining types who inhabit this thread and all others for other games..)

If you like it, play it, if you don't like it just stop playing it and unwatch the thread. It's not rocket science.

Let those of us who like the game, use the thread to talk about the game, not whinge about how we don't like the game development for a game you get for free through someone else's generousity.
 
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JohnEffinDoe

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By far the shittiest update ever, i regret each sec i spent on this trash however it did help me finalize my decision of dropping the series so thats one positive thing came out of all this.

BTW If you guys take a peek on this page on the last paragraph he mentioned that

"As mentioned two previews ago, I am indeed still working on the new installment, Act I - Part V. Taking place at the aunt's oceanside residence in the sweltering summer heat, this will undoubtedly be the meatiest installment yet. More previews of that hot summer fun to come!"

I mean i get it that this guy have a habit of harping rather than focusing on the game to make it less boring than as it is, however does he usually speak out of his ass this often or is it just one of his tricks to bait people to become his patron?
 
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Teaber

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I'm very surprised by his reasoning.
He managed to re-render all the scenes for remaster in July but couldn't render the shopping segment with son & mom with an extra rig/processor/whatever he bought recently? Come on...

I'm a game developer too and there's no way this update's content was worth a month's effort.
It feels like he worked on it over 2 weekends only.
Regarding this, I recall reading in one of his posts commenting the problems/bugs he encountered in the game that he was thinking about "dissecting large parts of the game and releasing what parts aren't broken". I have so far been very positive about this game; I value (a lot) the great quality of the renders and the fact that the story (simple as it is) is well written and devoid of the silly porn "logic" that abounds in many games. But I have to say that my bullshit detector —which is very accurate, since I am a teacher— started to sense something there.

Now, reading these posts you copied here, it is evident something does not make sense. It is possible that the version he finally managed to upload did not include all the content he developed because some of it was messing the game. But now he says that what he cut was due to time constraints and the fact that he prioritised moving the story forward over including some scenes (which, again, does not make any sense: a story, especially one that is in its early stages, like this one, moves forward THROUGH scenes. You can include ellipses, of course, but this has to be motivated narratively, which is not the case).

All in all, those comments sound... well, pretty much like excuses for a lack of content he is very aware of. I am not a patron, so my criticism is what it is: the two cents of a guy who is interested in the game but is not paying for it. In any case, I think that, if he wants to keep this project alive and well, he urgently needs to focus on providing a more rewarding experience to the players. What he has to offer, if he wants, is enough to stand out in this context. Otherwise, the way things are going, I sincerely doubt this will last much.
 

Rimmer

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Well you can always unsub your Patreon and stop playing the game if you don't like the progresion or developers actions.

Wait, what's that? You're not a Patreon? Well then you don't have much room to talk do you, since you're playing someone else's work for FREE. Good grief, the entitlement mentality in this thread is outrageous.

(And this goes to all bitching and whining types who inhabit this thread and all others for other games..)

If you like it, play it, if you don't like it just stop playing it and unwatch the thread. It's not rocket science.

Let those of us who like the game, use the thread to talk about the game, not whinge about how we don't like the game development for a game you get for free through someone else's generousity.
So your on a pirate site where most probably don't pay for games, this is also a forum for sharing opinions on games, be they good or bad, but you suggest people shouldn't have an opinion if they haven't paid or there opinion differs from yours.......really?
 

Dustellar

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It's a shame that this game isn't better, the name is really cool, the story and concept too... not every game allows you to control the father and the son, but someone should really tell him to progress with the story because his game has potential, a lot of potential!

I still didn't played this version... but again, it's a shame!
 
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