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What this guy shouldn't do is scrap crucial part of certain routes if he wants to focus on both at the same time.
The shopping event could've been a great opportunity for some fuel and reaction, even some peeping would've been a better progress than scrapping everything altogether. Everybody can see what it did for the father progress with the daughter and it could've been in a similar fashion for the son.
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Most here doesn't pledge a dime. And those that actually do pledge, if they feel they don't get what they pledge for, then they can change their mind right? Remember the basics of the pledges on Patreon is to support a creator "you like". And why you like that creator is highly individual. For some its all about the content the creator can deliver every month, for others its the more long term. fk sake, I got a Patreon going for wreckless eating which is just silly bastards eating silly shit and goofing around. With no other enjoyment other than think its funny to watch sometimes.
oh and H1Z1 is in my library on steam, and it was renamed to "Just Survive" recently.... Havent played it in a year or more.
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Well, I think you're doing the same thing they are, just because you didn't bring it up first, doesn't mean you're not pissing on one game and the people who like it, to defend a game you like.
I think both is unnecessary as the games aren't that similar, apart from the very basic premise that a dad and a daughter might at one point fuck each other.
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Completely agree with teaber and zaloo about what they said about DMD, but in the interest of peace, let me bring something else up.
Why, why did he have to implement so much of this awful monologue. There is nothing more boring for me as a player than having to read through dozens of lines of often badly written thoughts of the MC. Writers really should learn about the concept of "show, don't tell", that's basically writing 101, even in videogames.
We player aren't that dumb, we are perfectly capable of understanding the MC's motivation without bombarding us with these hideous monologues.
Why, why did he have to implement so much of this awful monologue. There is nothing more boring for me as a player than having to read through dozens of lines of often badly written thoughts of the MC. Writers really should learn about the concept of "show, don't tell", that's basically writing 101, even in videogames.
We player aren't that dumb, we are perfectly capable of understanding the MC's motivation without bombarding us with these hideous monologues.
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Well, VN games for adults is little more than what picture books for kids was, except rather than "what does the cow say", its more about "who let the dogs out". But then people grow up and find out about books, and so on, and suddenly just the visuals alone is not really enough. It need to be meat on the bones. The storyteller here is the creator of the game, if you don't like it, well.. what does the cow say?
If I go to the movies and its awfull, I walk out. If I start read a book and its bad, I stop read it. I don't start hate on the producers, the writers and what not.
VN's is more of interactive stories rather than actual games. Playing Sex Olympics back in the day and bust the wrist jiggle the joystick back and forth, now that was a game. Not really that rewarding, but a novelity
You probably would had a blast in the land of the lounge lizard back in the day, or maybe not, to many words there too, and with that reference I feel to old suddenly, sigh.
Wait, aren't Early Access Games a one-time investment only?
You pay the listed price and that's it.. or I missed something?
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Wait a minute, that's basically the exact opposite of what I was trying to say. By "show, don't tell", I don't mean more pictures, less text, it's merely a concept that basically means: Instead of describing something by boring summarization or description, use a more interesting way, like dialogues or actions.Well, VN games for adults is little more than what picture books for kids was, except rather than "what does the cow say", its more about "who let the dogs out". But then people grow up and find out about books, and so on, and suddenly just the visuals alone is not really enough. It need to be meat on the bones. The storyteller here is the creator of the game, if you don't like it, well.. what does the cow say?
If I go to the movies and its awfull, I walk out. If I start read a book and its bad, I stop read it. I don't start hate on the producers, the writers and what not.
VN's is more of interactive stories rather than actual games. Playing Sex Olympics back in the day and bust the wrist jiggle the joystick back and forth, now that was a game. Not really that rewarding, but a novelity
You probably would had a blast in the land of the lounge lizard back in the day, or maybe not, to many words there too, and with that reference I feel to old suddenly, sigh.
So instead of having an endless, and at least in my opinion, very boring monologue about the feelings and doubts the father has about his daughter, let him shy away when she is trying to hug him or something. That's much more subtle, and way more interesting. This is not a perfect example, after all the goal is to get close to the daughter, but there are endless possibilities that are more interesting than having to passively read a wall of text.
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Just to be clear I don't believe thats the case. I decrypted and followed the script.py as a guide and never saw a -1 for sneaking into her room. You don't even get that if after the uncomfortable conversation you move closer.
Basically just going off memory where the negative mom points happen is if you try to kiss her while drunk and try to cop a feel at the sink along with being an arse in conversation points. It's really obvious.
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Well, I guess with the monogloues he try to build on the character, and maybe try get the player, or the reader in this case to maybe see through the eyes of the character. idk, only the creator say something about that. I remember we had to read "the old man and the sea" back in the day in school, it wasn't the most fun I done but I couldn't very well tell Hemmingway he wrote it wrong either. In these patreon games the players/readers is little elese than critiques that review a unfinished product.
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Actually @trumpthatbitch, I made two runs just to see where the son gains or loses relationship points with the mom and if you follow the guide you end up with two points gained, if you diverge a bit from the guide, you gain three points by not hiding and peeping at the first opportunity you have with the mom.
If you comfort her, you gain 1 point.
If you enter the mom's room without knocking and hide you lose the point, even if you move closer after the conversation and promptly confess, or simply confess it is simply the same result.
You gain 1 point if you don't go to the party and stay home, then reply in the dream sequence you are interested in mom.
If you refrain from kissing her you gain another point and that's it.
Though, I think the point of the first peeping is exposition and to show that this game is not "that kind of game" were you run in a character and bam you are doing stuff with them. Probably is simply to show the possibility of paths that can be explored and to present that your actions have consequences that perpetuate in the story.
Tally of possible points in each route (F-S) inside the spoiler:
Hope it helps to bring a broader idea of the paths in-game Made a few mistakes in the counting and flow of choices, so, new scores.
If you comfort her, you gain 1 point.
If you enter the mom's room without knocking and hide you lose the point, even if you move closer after the conversation and promptly confess, or simply confess it is simply the same result.
You gain 1 point if you don't go to the party and stay home, then reply in the dream sequence you are interested in mom.
If you refrain from kissing her you gain another point and that's it.
Though, I think the point of the first peeping is exposition and to show that this game is not "that kind of game" were you run in a character and bam you are doing stuff with them. Probably is simply to show the possibility of paths that can be explored and to present that your actions have consequences that perpetuate in the story.
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Made a few mistakes in the counting and flow of choices, so, new scores.
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Could be true would have to check that script is a holy looking mess he has the father and son routes combined so it's hard to follow
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I doubt that, to be honest. Or at least, it's terribly inept milking, since the update is so egregiously sub-par. Ironically, I think we'd have gotten a better update if the dev was trying to milk the sponsors.
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It's funny that this month but, perharps it's every month, I read people who write : "Almost nothing, really poor content" for Dreams of Desires, Big Brother, Dual Family, The Twist and Au-Pair Innocence, Thinking About You updates, etc, etc...
What conclusion can we draw from this ? People are bored ? Not enough sex scenes ? Devs become lazy ?
What conclusion can we draw from this ? People are bored ? Not enough sex scenes ? Devs become lazy ?
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So we must also consider the effects of Solar flare and the positions of the planets in our sky. Well, it becomes complicated
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I agree father route seems to me more balanced. When I was playing son's route feel like no connection between scenes. Just like jumping scene to scene. Thats exactly how I felt Dreams of desire in this version.
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I agree with some of the people who said : "1 month wait for this..." "Pretty deceived by the content", "terrible game flow".... I'm disappointed in the updates for all theses games :
- Dreams of Desires,
- Big Brother,
- Dual Family,
- The Twist,
- Au-Pair Innocence,
- Thinking About You
I stopped all my pledges. I think that sex is like drug. Just my opinion ! But I want always more exciting scenes, stories, pictures, faces. This escalation always leads to the frustration. No devs, nobody (even IRL, I think...) can fill this kind of wait. (Do you feel what I mean ? My English is not good).
- Dreams of Desires,
- Big Brother,
- Dual Family,
- The Twist,
- Au-Pair Innocence,
- Thinking About You
I stopped all my pledges. I think that sex is like drug. Just my opinion ! But I want always more exciting scenes, stories, pictures, faces. This escalation always leads to the frustration. No devs, nobody (even IRL, I think...) can fill this kind of wait. (Do you feel what I mean ? My English is not good).
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