VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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Mookey

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Nov 13, 2017
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There are no updates and there have been no updates for over 2.5 years. You just want to be lied to in perpetuity by a scammer: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851

This is a scam, no matter how much it bothers you. That's why people call it a scam.
SMH... I've read that. you posted it almost a year ago and keep re-linking it. I don't care whether your claims are true or false. Besides, there have been developments since then. But even if it's true, those on this site are not being scammed. My point is that Gumdrop posts updates, images, etc. and it's a pain having to scroll through pages and pages to find where someone posted it. Sure, I could become a patron for the convenience but wouldn't I then be giving into the "scammer"?

I just want to check in here after he posts an update to read progress, see images, etc. (along with checking the version number to see if it's been updated) like I do with many other games. This thread has just become a smorgasbord of people who keep saying the same thing over and over again and it's frankly getting annoying.
 

byskup

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SMH... I've read that. you posted it almost a year ago and keep re-linking it. I don't care whether your claims are true or false. Besides, there have been developments since then. But even if it's true, those on this site are not being scammed. My point is that Gumdrop posts updates, images, etc. and it's a pain having to scroll through pages and pages to find where someone posted it. Sure, I could become a patron for the convenience but wouldn't I then be giving into the "scammer"?

I just want to check in here after he posts an update to read progress, see images, etc. (along with checking the version number to see if it's been updated) like I do with many other games. This thread has just become a smorgasbord of people who keep saying the same thing over and over again and it's frankly getting annoying.
Dont read it then and “just check in here after he posts”. No one asked your opinion if you are “annoyed” by reading “same thing over and over again”. Easy enough.
 
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Do people still not realize that doing this crap takes a few minutes max? a few minutes every few months to keep hooking extremely naive people. There are literally no assets in virtually all his "previews". Lighting is trivial. No scene-building required at all, just a flat background and extreme close-ups to conceal that fact, you don't want to spend more than a few minutes on this shit. He is not even putting effort into the scam. In fact, this proves he is not doing ANY work at all, otherwise you would be seeing actual "previews" with actual assets. He would be showering you with them to get more money, even if he had zero intentions of releasing anything. This crap is abandoned. I predicted it all almost a year ago.

But so many people here keep always falling for it, every single time: "this time for real guyz, he did the exact same thing he has done repeatedly in the past, he has shown zero evidence of work, but this time is for real, trust me". It's amazing to see so many people being manipulated by such a blatant scammer for so long. Now imagine how hard they will be taken advantage of by actually skilled manipulative people IRL. Of course, not all of them are honest. There are some who come straight out from his discord, like that one caught a while ago:

Coincidence?
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By the way, have people considered the possibility that the original author is not the one running the scam, or that the scammer relied on other people doing the actual work, people who have long left? just curious, it changes nothing about this being abandoned and an obvious scam.
 
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Mookey

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Dont read it then and “just check in here after he posts”. No one asked your opinion if you are “annoyed” by reading “same thing over and over again”. Easy enough.
And "No one asked your opinion" on your useless comments. "Easy enough."
 

fotogaik

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May 13, 2017
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Macinnes: He disabled the amount shown back in April. I already gave two reasons he could have had for that a couple pages ago:
1. He hid it from his patrons to prevent them from noticing that his per patron amount dropped. This is doubtful because his patrons are not that smart.
2. He finally started looking for help with his project around April when he realized he can't do it alone. He hid his income which allows him to get away with undercutting the wage he pays.
Before he hid this amount, he was getting was around $9.50 per patron per month. If you look at graphtreon:
Their "best guess" is $1K-$5K, while my best guess is $6K-$6.3K (assuming $9.25-$9.70 per patron). But graphtreon doesn't account for past performance and doesn't look at any post statistics, just takes an average of his tiers with a "best guess" where pledges can land.
If a creator exceeds graphtreon's high estimate, that means they're doing really good at engaging high paying patrons.

As for that Discord rant, if it was months ago, then I can believe it because his updates was obviously blasé and he has since switched back to his usual tone.
 

kilatin

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Jun 3, 2018
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Anybody got the Wednesday update?
Update? You mean the 217th time that in game images were recycled to be an 'update', or at least feed the illusion that Gumdrop is actually doing anything beside laughing all the way to the bank?

If he were serious, at least he would be willing to show some of the update images for free (which would be the reasonable thing to do after 2.5 years of lies, missed deadlines and all that), instead of charging a buck per patreon for what is likely just a zoomed in re-render of a render already done in 2017, or 2018 at best). But he is not, and he is just trying to milk people more.
 

ResmiHardin

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Nov 16, 2018
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I hate to break this to you guys but I think that's the scene where it's the bj scene from the first 6 releases, it happens on the landing....

Please let me know if I'm wrong and I'll delete this post

P.S - When did he say he was planning to release the final version? I think he said summer right? cutting it awfully close...
I really do hope that it's nearly completed but a big part of me knows it's just like before and every other month and year he's done this.

One Can Only Hope...
 
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I hate to break this to you guys but I think that's the scene where it's the bj scene from the first 6 releases, it happens on the landing (...).
I am not giving a like to qsad due to having hope in GD, but more so because he (qsad) has been, for a while now, ripping the "teasers-of-the-upcoming-release" from GD's personal site and paid-posts.

As for your question, yes, GD promised in a very ambiguous manner that the release of Part X-the Finale of Act 1 would come out this Summer.
 

ImmortalNight

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I am not giving a like to qsad due to having hope in GD, but more so because he (qsad) has been, for a while now, ripping the "teasers-of-the-upcoming-release" from GD's personal site and paid-posts.

As for your question, yes, GD promised in a very ambiguous manner that the release of Part X-the Finale of Act 1 would come out this Summer.
He is also now discussing Act 2 apparently.
 

fotogaik

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P.S - When did he say he was planning to release the final version?
Nobody knows that because he announced that the game is expected to have 30 parts, or at least 3 acts of unknown length: first one for exposition, second for romance and third for sex.
So don't expect sex in this one.
I think he said summer right? cutting it awfully close...
I really do hope that it's nearly completed but a big part of me knows it's just like before and every other month and year he's done this.
He already reminded everyone that end of summer is in September (autumnal equinox, which falls on September 22nd this year). That's four months after his last "final deadline" of May 23rd.
 
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Dependable_223

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Well atleast he lost another few hundreds of patreon maybe now he is willing to do some real work. lol.. :devilish: :p he used to have above 1000 patreons but its down to 650 but he still have too much patreon that wont force him to do some real work unless he loses another 500 more.

Till then i doubt he is even planning on releasing anything. Just milking for another 2 years.
 
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OMG is that an actual sex scene? :eek:
No, that's just a shitty render used to keep hooking incredibly naive people into giving him money for an abandoned project. Notice the extreme blur, the complete lack of assets, mediocre stock lighting which highlights the shitty skin textures, the complete lack of any scene-building, the complete lack of any evidence of work whatsoever. Why do you think it's zoomed-in? to conceal these facts (not even posing matters under these conditions). Literally a crappy render of a blurred ass :LOL:. Any randomly picked fan-artist on this very same site does more work.

He has been doing literally the same thing for over 2.5 years. To any rational person this further proves that this is totally abandoned, as I explained above. Ask yourself, why do you get shitty, poorly made renders that would never fit in-game, when he claims to have 3k renders? the only explanation is that this was abandoned in 2018, so he actually has nothing at all. He has done no work and continues to do no work. As soon as you realize this, you will be able to predict this scammer's behavior. None of what he does will make sense as long as you continue to insist that this isn't abandoned for some odd reason. Literally no evidence exists, in fact all evidence, upon close inspection, further proves this is abandoned, a total scam.

Next time you see someone here asking stuff like "why would he milk for so long when he would be earning more by just releasing it :rolleyes:?" you are just seeing someone in denial about it, even if they don't like the scammer. There is no milking because there is nothing being withheld, there is no work done, this is purely an abandoned project turned into a part-time scam. So many people here told me I was wrong about this a year ago, but I was proven right (for instance I predicted that he would keep using old renders as "promotional" content).

This is the gist of it: every few months he wastes a few minutes of his life with a patreon post and some shitty render to keep it going, then he moves on with his life. A few minutes of mediocre LARPing/months turns into thousands. The very definition of a scam.

Someone should make a list of all his ridiculous, accumulated lies to drive the point home: remember the 6-8 GPUs :ROFLMAO:? he even had an "office" and a "team" that never existed :LOL:? he was even "training" them lmfao, but today he claims the team left (notice a pattern? when old lies become too hard to maintain he moves on to new lies). Remember the shitty cropped gif which he wasn't even making but which he commissioned to some poor guy (with stolen money of course) who later contradicted his bullshit? the "I'm learning Blender" excuse lmao (I know Blender quite well and I can tell you that this guy has no idea what he is talking about). You have to be out of your mind to fall for this.

Now you might ask, why do so many people fall for it? for the same reasons fake call-centers continue to exist (search Kitboga on youtube to see how ridiculous scammers can still make a living out of it). That's why reporting this scammer to Patreon ( ) is the least you can do. A game with 2 violent rapes is most definitely a cause of concern (I can provide more evidence to support your report, send a PM). You won't convince those who fall for it to stop doing it. They are too far gone, they are victims. Go after the scammer.
 
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Trapezio

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Once in a while, some "random" dude come here and start debating on the development's game arguing as if Gumdrop's working on the game.

This isn't good, because they're giving F95's newbies false hopes.

That's why I've always written that this thread should be locked.


The Dude stopped working on this 2 years ago, at least. Every update came out quite regularly. Then it stopped.

The game never stalled. It STOPPED. Period.

So, let me tell you this:

if there were a "next update" it would have been released 2 years ago, at the very latest.
 
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