Ren'Py Abandoned Duality [v0.1.8] [Per<3rsioN]

[holymonity]

Bigg F. My copium is that we would get one final update with Ruca + June threesome and some harem ending like Virtues. That's all I ask.

Oh well, time to wake up.. Dev prolly moved on with some noFap / Andrew Tate bs. He was a self-confessing porn addict iirc.

 

[Arndeir]

I still have hope

 

[rb813]

Damn, this is a real cautionary tale about why you should always do some sex scenes first. I just browsed through the renders of v1.7b, and it seems like the most interactive sexy bit there is (in over 3,000 images) is a handjob. No BJ except when Ruca's asleep (which I'm fine with, but it's not much good for the love route), and no penetration with any of the girls as far as I could see. If the game truly is abandoned, it's just a big ol' cocktease now. It doesn't matter how good the renders look if they never lead to anything.

 

[Nemo56]

Damn, this is a real cautionary tale about why you should always do some sex scenes first. I just browsed through the renders of v1.7b, and it seems like the most interactive sexy bit there is (in over 3,000 images) is a handjob. No BJ except when Ruca's asleep (which I'm fine with, but it's not much good for the love route), and no penetration with any of the girls as far as I could see. If the game truly is abandoned, it's just a big ol' cocktease now. It doesn't matter how good the renders look if they never lead to anything.

Not for me. Once I am done with a game, I grab the best pinup or wallpaper worthy shots from it. The sex scenes are not the main reason I play these games, I could also do without. Of course I won't complain if there are some ingame and done well (but I fast forward BJs).

 

[rb813]

Not for me. Once I am done with a game, I grab the best pinup or wallpaper worthy shots from it. The sex scenes are not the main reason I play these games, I could also do without. Of course I won't complain if there are some ingame and done well (but I fast forward BJs).

To each their own, but I think a lot of people would consider an erotic progression with a woman in a game to be incomplete if there's no sex. Like, the part where Thanos and all his minions turn to dust is not the main reason I watch Avengers Endgame, but the story sure wouldn't be complete without it.

 

[Bombmaster]

Truly astonishing the people faith and interest in this story almost damned levels.
And yes as the poster before me said eloquently without some Lewds the buildup crashes and burn.

You can count on one hand games with strong following without sex.

 

[Nemo56]

To each their own, but I think a lot of people would consider an erotic progression with a woman in a game to be incomplete if there's no sex. Like, the part where Thanos and all his minions turn to dust is not the main reason I watch Avengers Endgame, but the story sure wouldn't be complete without it.

Not the best example. Defeating Thanos is the goal of the whole story. You are right, this particular story would not be complete without it, because they chose to do that by turning him into dust. But another way to defeat him would have worked as well, as long as he is defeated. Dust turning is not necessary.
But the story would work without showing him getting an Axe in his chest, right? That's something cool, but not necessary for the story to work.


There are of VNs that luckily are not just about getting into bed with someone and that's the end of it. The worst games end after the LI ends up in bed with the MC. Been there, done that, next one. That's awful writing. The good ones continue the story after that happened. Doing the naked bretzel is part of these stories, but it's not the goal. In many cases the story would perfectly work without the lewd scened (unlike the Avengers example).

 

[rb813]

Not the best example. Defeating Thanos is the goal of the whole story.

Yes, and for many players, having sex is the goal of the whole story. That was the point of using that example. I don't feel like the average sex game player would consider a game to be "won" if they haven't had sex.

The worst games end after the LI ends up in bed with the MC. Been there, done that, next one. That's awful writing. The good ones continue the story after that happened.

I don't see how this helps your case. By this criteria, Duality is also not one of the good ones, because a game where the MC doesn't have sex at all certainly can't continue the story after that happened.

But my point was not that the game should stop as soon as the MC beds someone, just that it shouldn't stop before that.

Doing the naked bretzel is part of these stories, but it's not the goal.

It's not part of this story at all though, is it? And hey, if you're fine with that, I'm not knocking anyone else's tastes. Some people even enjoy games with the No Sexual Content tag, and I have nothing against that. I'm just saying that there are a lot of people whose tastes are gonna be pretty let down by that element not being a part of it at all (whether you consider sex the goal or just another part of the journey).

 

[Nemo56]

Yes, and for many players, having sex is the goal of the whole story.

Especially for the "full save please" faction. That's not me, I am one who enjoys the ride

And that " the goal of the whole story" is the reason why the Thanos thingy was a bad example. The movie wasn't written as way to make Tanos turn into dust. That was just the outcome. Of course he had to be defeated on way or another, unpretentious action movies are just like that. Would he have been defeated differently (and for example still live), the movie would have been just as good. And Infinity War? Thanos had not been defeated at all and it was by far the better movie. Him turning to dust was most definitly not the highlight of the movies, all the good stuff happened earlier.

If you need to see people shag in a VN to enjoy it, that's ok of course.
Just comparing it with a movie without ending, that's just off. A different ending or different content ... that would be a better comparison. Movie with or without brains exploding, something like that.

I don't see how this helps your case. By this criteria, Duality is also not one of the good ones, because a game where the MC doesn't have sex at all certainly can't continue the story after that happened.

Duality hasn't reached that point yet, that is true. As a consequence it's too early to judge this aspect, only time will tell (or not).
It doesn't have much of a story tbh, it's very basic. But it has some nice ideas and I hope that it will develop in a good direction.

A rushed sex scene at the beginning would still leave this game without ending, I would still be sad that it seems to be over.

Seeing people shag is by far easier than finding a decent naughty story, that's why it's only of second interest to me. If I want to see people bang, I have plenty of places to go.
I started playing these games when they had no renders at all and tbh many of the old text AIF games had better story and by far better gameplay (You really should play "Moist" if you get the chance). The new games I usually really just play for the visuals, to get some good shots.
There are exceptions of course. Being a DIK is written very well, reading through the "Hell Week" chapter was a whole lot of fun.

 

[rb813]

And Infinity War? Thanos had not been defeated at all and it was by far the better movie.

That's not me, I am one who enjoys seeing villains defeated.

I'm glad people who enjoy feeling drained and depressed at the end of a movie have an MCU film that's just for them, but I personally would probably never watch Infinity War again if the victory that came after it wasn't so uplifting. And therein lies the problem with your continued insistence that it's not a good analogy. What would make it a good analogy is not if it accurately reflects your tastes, but if it accurately reflects mine. And it does, so that should be the end of the discussion about whether it's a good analogy or not, provided that you don't think only your tastes are valid.

Duality hasn't reached that point yet, that is true. As a consequence it's too early to judge this aspect, only time will tell (or not).

What do you mean by yet? Practically every comment for the last three pages (before this conversation started) was people lamenting how the game has been abandoned (and you even appear to agree that it seems to be over). There's no yet if a game is abandoned, there's nothing more for time to tell. That's what I was commenting on when I said this game was a cautionary tale. Of course Duality hasn't reached that point if more content is released later, but people seem to think there's ample reason to suspect it won't. For the pedantic, I could rephrase my original statement to, "If this game is dead, then it's a real cautionary tale..." Better?

A rushed sex scene at the beginning would still leave this game without ending

I'm not saying a rushed sex scene at the beginning, I'm saying like maybe just do the complete progression from start to finish for one character (in this game, Ruca seems to be the most fully realized), instead of doing the beginnings for like five different characters that will most likely now never have an ending. What I'm suggesting is that devs should start out with some type of complete story from start to finish, even if it's limited in scope (but honestly, you could do a pretty fully-realized story with 3,000 renders) before making a bunch more starts without finishes.

 

[single_guy_from_au]

Per<3rsioN - please don't abandon this great game: just look how many fans are missing you.

We are all waiting for your next episode!

 

[Ass bandit]

This was the game with the juvenile unlikeable shithead MC, right?

 

[Draupnir7]

This was the game with the juvenile unlikeable shithead MC, right?

If you play that way, maybe? There are a good few of those.

 

[anon280]

hope this continues. dev truly knows how to create erotic lewd scenes (especially with June)

 

[acey69]

anyone got an idea about June character assets?

 

[fishbrain]

This was the game with the juvenile unlikeable shithead MC, right?

That's most games I think.

 

[Sesinho]

Once again we have to be reminded that there is a thing called The altar of Virgins where all the "favorite girls" of all the abandoned games go. It even has reserved spots for girls in risk like the one from hillside and the one from single again, happy summer, The promise, and others I stopped caring about.

 

[Woodalicca]

Well-deserved abandoned tag. I said it in one of my previous posts here and I'll repeat myself : Go back and watch carefully his behavior in the past months/past year. He started to become less communicative. I lost count of the number of dropped games once their devs started to act like this. This is always a good indicator of the ship sinking.

 

[Tatsuya2022]

Well-deserved abandoned tag. I said it in one of my previous posts here and I'll repeat myself : Go back and watch carefully his behavior in the past months/past year. He started to become less communicative. I lost count of the number of dropped games once their devs started to act like this. This is always a good indicator of the ship sinking.

yeah usual stuf on 50% of those 2 bit developers, they do 3 to 5 fast good updates on 4 months around each of they, BUT THEN they begin to slow down , excuses right left up down , this one went from one decent update each 3 months to what we got each 8 ?

 

[dewayne4478]

yeah usual stuf on 50% of those 2 bit developers, they do 3 to 5 fast good updates on 4 months around each of they, BUT THEN they begin to slow down , excuses right left up down , this one went from one decent update each 3 months to what we got each 8 ?

yea something like that. I was Patreon until Oct. There were thimes I wwould be on reading another Dev's update, I'd switch to hhis page just to see if i missed a update or something.