whichone

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That's odd, I have the Wk 1 Final DM patch and the Walkthrough + Gallery mod, but all 3 girls show as 18 for me, too.
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*EDIT - Forget that, just checked and the mod was switched off.
Qmil679 If you install the mod, you need to click the panties on the main menu to activate it.
 

zanruel

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damn those flashbacks about hiroko kinda killed it for me
i mean cheating is 1 thing but having sex with someone else first while already dating and getting pregnant
no relationship should survive that
i just wanted to go with another girl and break up with her entirely
 
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Imo since the story can get dark (Dark Mind withstanding).. I think Hiroko was raped or it was some kind of family enforced thing like Tomoe.. But I'll admit.. We'll never know unless the 'Pastime' episodes reveal more from the end of the first one.. First one being the one where she was going to the roof to jump off.. Iirc the very next PE was 3 months later, the first and only one so far to show her pregnant.. With the last one being Matsu's time with Queen.. That fits with the theory of Fuyu being his and Mao being three months older..
 

melvin432

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So Hiroko slept with someone at the beginning even when she was with us?
maybe? the timeline is a bit confusing she gets pregnant with someone elses child (most likely her fathers) around the same time she dates Mastsu but its not exactly clear whether that happens right before she starts to date matsu or during all we know is that she admits to cheating on him though whether she actually did or whether its a more fanatical belief she has that has made her believe she cheated on him
 
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zanruel

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maybe? the timeline is a bit confusing she gets pregnant with someone elses child (most likely her fathers) around the same time she dates Mastsu but its not exactly clear whether that happens right before she starts to date matsu or during all we know is that she admits to cheating on him though whether she actually did or whether its a more fanatical belief she has that has made her believe she cheated on him
yeah the thought that it was realy consensual on her part came to me after the post (only saw the 2nd flashback so far now)
but just when it was revealed she got pregnant while already dating matsu just kinda turned me off
 

melvin432

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no but im not playing as hiroko
and as far as im aware he didnt get anyone pregnant and asked her to take care of the child
she didnt he voluntarily chose to run away with hirioko and raise the child because he loved her also if the theories on whose the father of mao is to be believed then there is a good chance the relationship was happening before she met him and she actually cheated on the other guy with Matsu.

Also i get ppls issues with Hiriko being with another person while dating Matsu, but come on guys a ridicoulously large part of the game is built on the premise that Matsu wants to bang all the girls in the school and the teachers and the mothers, sisters, any other female character that has an even remote relationship, and also his daughters while also wanting to bang everybody in another school i feel like we should be able to give hiriko a pass on being apart of a relationship that she was potentially pushed into with a person she may have not wanted to be with
 

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Look at it this way..
1. Mao is 18.. Hiroko was 14.. 9mo for pregnancy, +18ish years = Hiroko at 33
2. We know Hiroko had no one 'positive' or 'nice' before Matsu

Imo since she thinks she cheated it was during.. Imo right after the first PE episode..

I admit it's just fantasy now since I doubt we'll get to see what happens right after Matsu joined class, but imo I think that on her way to jump from the roof she was raped or Matsu stops her, with her getting fucked to 'carry on the bloodline' afterwords..

Keep in mind atm I don't have a save with the pastime and present Hiroko ID's accessible..
 
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So while I was off doing other things, what happened that Mega has become disfavoured, can anyone tell me? Seems not just this game, but others as well. Which sucks, because I've mastered the vpn workaround transfer limits and NOPY almost never works for me, mostly just says "invalid link", in reference to earlier conversations about that site as a substitute. Dropmefiles is fast at least w this one file, but I liked and used the file manager from mega but if that doesn't work...

anyways, as always my super thanks to dev!
 

blabbolo

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I have no problems with hiroko cheating in the past, after all matsu banged his mom, watend to bang his sister and banged the other schoolgirls while he was dating her, the only thing that bugs me is that hiroko lives for the mc, matsu saved her life and it doesn't make much sense for her to cheat on him.
 
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I have no problems with hiroko cheating in the past, after all matsu banged his mom, watend to bang his sister and banged the other schoolgirls while he was dating her, the only thing that bugs me is that hiroko lives for the mc, matsu saved her life and it doesn't make much sense for her to cheat on him.
In my opinion, at some point it will be revealed something like, (MAYBE and ONLY my thoughts, NO insider info!)...
...Hiroko had an ongoing sexual relationship with at least her dad just as Matsu did, that pre-existed her relationship w Matsu. Due to that is why she was depressed, and either because she'd found out she was pregnant or didn't realize until they were dating - and that kept going perhaps against her wishes even after she & Matsu "went steady". Not sure if existing game timing supports that as I'm going from memory so don't bother roasting me if it doesn't. But yeah, something like that would neatly wrap it up, to my thinking.
As for the whole cheating thing, it's been my long-standing observation that many Japanese titles in the porn realm (which I'm pretty sure ES is inspired from given, well, almost everything about it) seem to have a strong double-standard for male cheating vs female, similar to that older western chauvinist view that men should and women shouldn't, but still common in today's Japan behind closed doors. Now that's my observation, and I'm neither Japanese nor a scholar of their culture (dilettante student at best). Really just manga in general, but I can't read Kanji so who knows what happened before the translator touched it... lol.
 
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