Skummy Ecchi

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It may sound harsh but somebody have to say it anyway. This project/game is now looks like a sinking ship just coz BC lost over control of it and need getting rid of unefficent crew members and just keep translator while trying to find new ones. I think many games was abandoned for bad managment. If u have working hands and sane mind u can work anyway like I and many others did. I don't want accuse anybody for slacking and have no right for it but this is how capitalism works. There shouldn't be non replacent members coz game could just will die if somebody want to quit. Merge defenders say that it was voted by patrons but if u ask them if they'll knew how it turn out would they do it again? I think that answer is no. And I think that their alpha version was ready in time just there were billions of bugs and they just still trying to fix them so merge became total fail.
Ehhhhh incorrect on many fronts, sorry but that's not how this works and that's not how one should view this project. Also, that's not how capitalism works, its far more interconnected and thoughtful than simply what breeds the best short term gains, despite long term consequences. Merge is chugging along as it is right now, with steady progress back on track, though no clear point on when the alpha version will be given to testers.

This isn't a case of bad management, it's a case of inexperience in the process. Growing pains? they happen, bad management leads to total derailment, not to having to navigate extreme instances of work stoppage for unforeseen issues. As far as how the team has handled it? Pretty well, as there should be no severe delays in when the Merge is finalized and when we will see the next update after, because behind the scenes more work was being done and not just sitting and twiddling thumbs.

The crew was not inefficient, they were dealing with major health issues-that is not a case for unreasonable dismissal, and is actually highly unethical and immoral to even consider. There are reasons there are laws against it, you can't just fire someone for being unwell.

Also, if given the choice? I would tell any naysayer to suck it up we're doing it again, this is what's best for all parties because it leads to the whole thing being handled in one big swing up. Instead of constantly trying to fix and patch issues as things go by.

Bluecat and his team have grown over the years since the worse early days, they're continue to grow and learn form their mistakes. While you have the right to be critical of them, I as well have the right to be critical of what you have to say, and point out the flaws in your argument. This goes out to everyone, simply because I choose to defend my position, and the development team, does not turn me into a brainwashed moron.

This merge is nearly over, be patient and wait it out, for real this time. This project is far from dead, and we're about to get back into normalcy.

Stay Healthy, Stay Ecchi!

~Skummy Out
 

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It may sound harsh but somebody have to say it anyway. This project/game is now looks like a sinking ship just coz BC lost over control of it and need getting rid of unefficent crew members and just keep translator while trying to find new ones. I think many games was abandoned for bad managment. If u have working hands and sane mind u can work anyway like I and many others did. I don't want accuse anybody for slacking and have no right for it but this is how capitalism works. There shouldn't be non replacent members coz game could just will die if somebody want to quit. Merge defenders say that it was voted by patrons but if u ask them if they'll knew how it turn out would they do it again? I think that answer is no. And I think that their alpha version was ready in time just there were billions of bugs and they just still trying to fix them so merge became total fail.
No one cares what you think in your reality!
BC makes the game
He is working on it.
You can believe he is not
But people paying money obviously disagree
Your thinking doesn't change the FACT they are still paying
You have no evidence otherwise
So you came here to say what a dozen other people have said (so your first line is kind of off base)
Which is they (and you) don't believe what patrons/subs of the game are saying or what BC has said elsewhere

OK. You said it now, people who do believe should be left in peace. Goodbye
 

RandoCard3

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No one cares what you think in your reality!
BC makes the game
He is working on it.
You can believe he is not
But people paying money obviously disagree
Your thinking doesn't change the FACT they are still paying
You have no evidence otherwise
So you came here to say what a dozen other people have said (so your first line is kind of off base)
Which is they (and you) don't believe what patrons/subs of the game are saying or what BC has said elsewhere

OK. You said it now, people who do believe should be left in peace. Goodbye
Relax and let it be. We don't really want to go over everything that's been discussed all over again.
 
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Raven Tomoe

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I am not touching that topic again, haha. But Raven Tomoe , do you have any interest in Kaede scenes? I miss Kaede and we haven't gotten many good scenes with her in the actual game.
I do plan on doing some I already recreated Aki and did Satsune as well next plan is Kaede on the family list once I recreate her I be thinking up scene ideas between them.
 
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Skummy, since you talk with BlueCat I was wondering a few things:

1) Does BlueCat himself have much to do regarding the merge? It sounds like from your comments before that he is more the artist, character poser and dialog writer, so the merge is handled primarily by the other team members, right?

2) Does BlueCat have the technical ability to create and release stand-alone updates, like the Halloween update, but with main story content? I am not a Renpy expert (though I know Python well), and since Ecchi Sensei has very few (basically zero) meaningful choices so far, there isn't much if anything to program, and no variables to keep track of.

3) If BlueCat can release stand-alone updates, why doesn't he release another day of content that all his fans and supporters can play to tide us over, since it has been over 6 months and more to come before any new content?
 

RandoCard3

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Skummy, since you talk with BlueCat I was wondering a few things:

1) Does BlueCat himself have much to do regarding the merge? It sounds like from your comments before that he is more the artist, character poser and dialog writer, so the merge is handled primarily by the other team members, right?

2) Does BlueCat have the technical ability to create and release stand-alone updates, like the Halloween update, but with main story content? I am not a Renpy expert (though I know Python well), and since Ecchi Sensei has very few (basically zero) meaningful choices so far, there isn't much if anything to program, and no variables to keep track of.

3) If BlueCat can release stand-alone updates, why doesn't he release another day of content that all his fans and supporters can play to tide us over, since it has been over 6 months and more to come before any new content?
Regarding 3, I believe the intent is to build new days on top of the merge and it's fixes. If I'm interpreting it right, releasing new days would render the merge redundant unless they remade the prematurely released days after the merge finally came out. At least if I'm understanding what we've been told correctly. I'm far from an expert on any of this.

Couldn't say anything either way on 1 & 2 though.
 
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Smarmint

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Regarding 3, I believe the intent is to build new days on top of the merge and it's fixes. If I'm interpreting it right, releasing new days would render the merge redundant unless they remade the prematurely released days after the merge finally came out. At least if I'm understanding what we've been told correctly. I'm far from an expert on any of this.
Yes, I see what you mean. You make a good point. I was more thinking that once the programmer is back on track, he can add the new day, to the merge before it is released, so we all get the best of both worlds, a working merged game with fixed features, and some new content.
 

RandoCard3

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Yes, I see what you mean. You make a good point. I was more thinking that once the programmer is back on track, he can add the new day, to the merge before it is released, so we all get the best of both worlds, a working merged game with fixed features, and some new content.
That would definitely be nice, yeah.
 

Skummy Ecchi

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Skummy, since you talk with BlueCat I was wondering a few things:

1) Does BlueCat himself have much to do regarding the merge? It sounds like from your comments before that he is more the artist, character poser and dialog writer, so the merge is handled primarily by the other team members, right?

2) Does BlueCat have the technical ability to create and release stand-alone updates, like the Halloween update, but with main story content? I am not a Renpy expert (though I know Python well), and since Ecchi Sensei has very few (basically zero) meaningful choices so far, there isn't much if anything to program, and no variables to keep track of.

3) If BlueCat can release stand-alone updates, why doesn't he release another day of content that all his fans and supporters can play to tide us over, since it has been over 6 months and more to come before any new content?
Well shit has to be added, like all the character info, calendar shit, things that weren't included originally. Because they knew they were gonna fix it during merge anyways, since these were non functional parts of the game. Essentially doing all the work once the old hardcode was ripped out and the new cleaner stuff was in play. So yeah he's currently working generally long hours to get that stuff operable now that the files have been properly merged together.

Bluecat doesn't do code, so no making more days, sorry but gonna have to wait till after merge for content-but everything will work and no more of this "Which weeks do I download?"
 

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6 months for the merge and after that no new content? I get the grind, but if that is the case the next update will either be just one big file or a lot of time added just to get new content ontop of it.
Can't say this is something unusual now since alot of projects kind of delayed stuff like crazy like everyone knew eachother. Even those 6 months are matched by a lot of devs for different reasons (merge, update was bigger than expected,covid, losing staff, personal problems) kind of funny how they are all in the same timeslot alot of times.
Anyway, best of luck with the game and keep on fighting.
 
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>Was watching videos on internet.
>Saw a cat video and remembered this game
>Wanted to check on the game since the last update i got (email from their patreon) was on the 1st of January
>I'm a pleb with no shekels. Fight me.
>Browsed their patreon... All newer updates are patreon-only. Wtf?
>mfw i can already smell the shitstorm on this site :HideThePain:
>Went to this godforsaken forum for news anyway...
>People are mad. Apparently 6 months no updates
>Idiots speed running on who can get onto the highest moral high ground the fastest
>Some shit about capitalism
>Accusations left and right
>Went back to watching cat videos.


All jokes aside though... I'm getting the game with all of its glory for free. I could wait for another while. Thanks for the hard work, BlueCat and Skummy, despite the setbacks and hardships. I know it ain't much, but you could expect this shekel-less pleb to still support you in my own meager way. Keep it up!
 
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