VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[RandoCard3]

I didn't like the idea of sponsored characters from the start because of the risk of them getting dropped.

No matter what girls get cut it will feel weird because they already had a presence in the game but, to be honest from the six girls likely to be cut I don't care for two of them on the other hand from the ones you say are supposedly safe I don't care for two of them.

I actually like some of the T8 characters more than some of the characters on the main chars 2 and side chars list.

Yeah, that's why I'd rather seen them all get the cut or replaced, even the ones I like. By keeping them in there, it runs the risk of some of them getting deep into there storylines, then getting dropped part way through. Like, imagine we get to 8 months in and a storyline just ends. That's a lot of time wasted fleshing them out, and progressing their story. The way to avoid that while keeping them, is to keep things between them shallow so it doesn't feel weird when we never see them again, and I'm not sure that's a good alternative.

And yeah, I agree. There are definitely Main Char 2 and Side Char girls I'd switch out for some T8s.

 

[HansDampf788]

Yeah, that's why I'd rather seen them all get the cut or replaced, even the ones I like. By keeping them in there, it runs the risk of some of them getting deep into there storylines, then getting dropped part way through. Like, imagine we get to 8 months in and a storyline just ends. That's a lot of time wasted fleshing them out, and progressing their story. The way to avoid that while keeping them, is to keep things between them shallow so it doesn't feel weird when we never see them again, and I'm not sure that's a good alternative.

And yeah, I agree. There are definitely Main Char 2 and Side Char girls I'd switch out for some T8s.

In my opinion Blue has only two options cut them from the start or keep them in even if the T8 Patreon stopped supporting him.


If anything Blue should scrap the stupid idea of making the game partially sandbox.

 

[RandoCard3]

In my opinion Blue has only two options cut them from the start or keep them in even if the T8 Patreon stopped supporting him.


If anything Blue should scrap the stupid idea of making the game partially sandbox.

I agree with your first point, but not the second. What's the issue with the sandbox?

 

[HansDampf788]

I agree with your first point, but not the second. What's the issue with the sandbox?

First I hate sandbox games, second I don't think they can get the sandbox to work right because they can even get the merge done, third what is the point of the sandbox.

 

[cavaemon]

its a good game by far i dont know why some are just hating on it. its got story, hentai, and a genre list big enough to fill a horny teenagers locker for the the rest of his school years... then again i dont use Crunchy Roll HA! hope that gave some a chuckle

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

So apparently BC keeps that information to himself, but I did get a few names when I asked a year ago. There's not all definitely gone, but the speculation at the time suggested things weren't looking good for these ones.

• Reiya, Sloth Chan's sister
• Akina, the neko who is into Metal
• Alice, the cock blocking brat
• Ilyia, the geisha looking Russian chick
• Arisa, the red head who worked out with Mao that one time
• Hobogirl, the girl, who is also a hobo

Alice got picked up by Skummy a couple of months ago, I believe. So, she seems to be back thanks to fan demand.
The others may have had their circumstances change, but I couldn't say for sure.

Reiya and Arisa getting dropped sucks because they both had connections to established characters. Reiya is Sloth-Chan's sister, and Arisa is Nanami's cousin, I think. It feels like a waste to drop those two specifically, when that could have led to interesting stories down the line. As I noted, she also had a workout session with Mao and Matsu, and it would have been nice to see the two of them become friends or rivals.

Ilyia also has one of the more unique designs, so it's a shame that won't get put to use.

I think Sunari, Migoto and Michiko, Kasumi, Hanabi, and Emilia are all safe. At least they were a year ago. After how big a delay this has been, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more casualties along the way. I think I've seen most of there creators being quite active in the Discord, so if they aren't supporting now, they probably will once things pick up again.

Personally, I think they should have gutted the T8s while they worked on the merge, and just used them for the T8 spinoff game that's expected to happen once EC gets it's momentum back. Replace any characters that are worth keeping around, or are part of vital scenes with "Suspiciously Similar Substitutes". Too late for that now of course, but a man can dream.

Rando, I like you, I do, but fuck no.

The less characters there are, the more screen time my Amy gets, and I already am racking up a lot of screentime as a T8 right now lol. and you can be certain that unless I'm dead, I'm supporting the games, so I'mma wanna get my moneys worth :3

 

[hotdog10101]

i check atleast 10 pages so i have an idea whats happening here so if anyone whats to start a drama about my question save it for your self not going to play your game all i want is answer.

1) so in this merge thing "When we got the release" is there any additional content like back story or alteast new specials, anything? or its just plain and straight the 3 weeks combine?

2) (lets put aside the merge update) to old players/supporters how often we got updates back then? is it a monthly base update? every 3 months? just like other games i know or its one of those game "Whenever the dev feels to update his game?" type

thanks and cheers

 

[dark_mark]

This update is only a standalone Halloween update under Specials


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Halloween Special (2020)
Fapoween Special (2019)
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Uhhh... Which one of these is the current halloween special cause I don't seem to see 2021 anywhere...

 

[Deleted member 1906916]

Uhhh... Which one of these is the current halloween special cause I don't seem to see 2021 anywhere...

you need 2020 there was none for this year due to the merge

 

[dark_mark]

you need 2020 there was none for this year due to the merge

Don't know what the "merge" was/is, but why would anyone release current content with last years date? Sure it was a shit year but I haven't been in a coma...

 

[Deleted member 1906916]

Don't know what the "merge" was/is, but why would anyone release current content with last years date? Sure it was a shit year but I haven't been in a coma...

The merge is the 3 weeks into one and has taken over a year due to one of the dev team getting sick and it's still being worked on should come out at the end of the year

 

[RandoCard3]

First I hate sandbox games, second I don't think they can get the sandbox to work right because they can even get the merge done, third what is the point of the sandbox.

It's just going to be the opportunity to get optional scenes with some of the girls that can't fit within the linear structured story thread. Completing those scenes will then lead to altered dialogue when we see them again in the main story, if applicable. All the annoying stuff like grind stats and money, aren't going to be there. So it's just more content with characters that would otherwise be sidelined for a particular weekday. I'm seeing nothing but positives. What's the problem exactly?

Rando, I like you, I do, but fuck no.

The less characters there are, the more screen time my Amy gets, and I already am racking up a lot of screentime as a T8 right now lol. and you can be certain that unless I'm dead, I'm supporting the games, so I'mma wanna get my moneys worth :3

That's fair. I just feel Ecchi Sensei runs the risk of suffering from it, if they're left it. They either risk getting dropped months into their stories, or they're kept as shallow filler to avoid that.
At the end of the day, despite it being developed in a very linear fashion, it's still a game in development, and if something doesn't work it should be cut, and the T8 system as a whole doesn't work. That's just how things are done it all mediums. Not just video games, but films, books, TV show etc. Cutting things that don't work is a vital part of the process.

i check atleast 10 pages so i have an idea whats happening here so if anyone whats to start a drama about my question save it for your self not going to play your game all i want is answer.

1) so in this merge thing "When we got the release" is there any additional content like back story or alteast new specials, anything? or its just plain and straight the 3 weeks combine?

2) (lets put aside the merge update) to old players/supporters how often we got updates back then? is it a monthly base update? every 3 months? just like other games i know or its one of those game "Whenever the dev feels to update his game?" type

thanks and cheers

1) It also includes most of the current Specials as dream sequences. I think the latest Halloween special is the only one not getting added, because it ends with Matsu waking up and he's in bed with a mystery girl, so it's probably going get added after that implied sex scene.
2) The first Merge was almost as bad as this, but once they got through it, we got a couple of new days every month. The release rate was stellar. It's just these merges that go to shit.

Edit:

Don't know what the "merge" was/is, but why would anyone release current content with last years date? Sure it was a shit year but I haven't been in a coma...

The merge is the compiling of the current releases into one big one, plus the majority of the specials. It's also a massive patch for a bunch of bugs, and is bringing is some new mechanics. There's no specials this year, because the merge has been going through a rough, and very delated development, so focusing on that was considered the priority.

 

[hotdog10101]

It's just going to be the opportunity to get optional scenes with some of the girls that can't fit within the linear structured story thread. Completing those scenes will then lead to altered dialogue when we see them again in the main story, if applicable. All the annoying stuff like grind stats and money, aren't going to be there. So it's just more content with characters that would otherwise be sidelined for a particular weekday. I'm seeing nothing but positives. What's the problem exactly?


That's fair. I just feel Ecchi Sensei runs the risk of suffering from it, if they're left it. They either risk getting dropped months into their stories, or they're kept as shallow filler to avoid that.
At the end of the day, despite it being developed in a very linear fashion, it's still a game in development, and if something doesn't work it should be cut, and the T8 system as a whole doesn't work. That's just how things are done it all mediums. Not just video games, but films, books, TV show etc. Cutting things that don't work is a vital part of the process.


1) It also includes most of the current Specials as dream sequences. I think the latest Halloween special is the only one not getting added, because it ends with Matsu waking up and he's in bed with a mystery girl, so it's probably going get added after that implied sex scene.
2) The first Merge was almost as bad as this, but once they got through it, we got a couple of new days every month. The release rate was stellar. It's just these merges that go to shit.

Edit:

The merge is the compiling of the current releases into one big one, plus the majority of the specials. It's also a massive patch for a bunch of bugs, and is bringing is some new mechanics. There's no specials this year, because the merge has been going through a rough, and very delated development, so focusing on that was considered the priority.

oh ok, thanks for that

cheers mate

 

[Dukez]

sooo since we're over a year since the last update and bluecat is supposed to be updating us again soon? surely his year long course in learning how to time how long it takes to put out a merge can result in a definitive timeline by now?

 

[RandoCard3]

sooo since we're over a year since the last update and bluecat is supposed to be updating us again soon? surely his year long course in learning how to time how long it takes to put out a merge can result in a definitive timeline by now?

We got one a few weeks ago. If the merge isn't out by the end of the year, then a sub-optimal alternative plan will be put into action, which I think ensures a release shortly after, but at some kind of cost. People have thrown out speculations on what that alternative is, but they didn't go into detail on it, in case it doesn't happen.

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[ExMachinaEV]

Please re-upload DM patch

 

[RandoCard3]

Please re-upload DM patch

Someone in the Discord said "Some people have had success with the wbm or a Google cache of the site" in regards to Lewdpatcher. Maybe you'll have some luck with that.

 

[Unknownleader556]

I know I'm very late to post this, but since there was some discussion on the T8 Characters I feel like giving my opinion on the idea of T8 Character. And before I start, as I just said this is my opinion on T8 Characters, if you disagree that's fine, and I actually would like to see your point on it.

So to be blunt, the idea of T8 Patron Characters wasn't a good idea, not because the idea of adding fan made characters to a game is bad, but because of the site being used to fund this game. From my experience, games that have a specific tier for fan made characters are from Kickstarter, and I wouldn't be surprised if BlueCat got the idea for T8 Characters from there. However Kickstarter obviously works differently from Patreon. With Kickstarter, should the project be funded then everyone who back it is charged pays for what tier they got, and then they don't pay anything else, but on Patreon everyone pays for their tier every month, which can lead to issues. Perhaps the person who made the T8 Character needs to stop supporting for an unknown amount of time, or a giant delay like what is currently happening occurs and the T8 Supporter decides to stop funding for a while to make sure their money isn't wasted, what happens to the characters then. This issue doesn't happen with Kickstarter as the supporter only needs to pay once, and the character will be in the game (provided the game ever comes out, I'm sure we've all seen Kickscammers before or at least heard of one Kickstarter game that was funded and went nowhere).

So now the question is, what will happen to those T8 Characters. The most obvious answer is that the T8 Characters who had their supporter dropped will be removed from the game, it's not the answer many of us want to hear, but it's the most likely. It's not even something that you can really fault BlueCat for doing, as from my understanding the T8 Characters would be in the game as long as the person who created them was a T8 Supporter, so them being removed was always a possibility. However I'm sure others will agree with me and say that we'd rather not have them removed, sure none of the characters Rando mentioned were the most popular, but all of them seemed interesting and at the very least I would have liked to see more of them as the game went on, hell two of them were connected to other established characters. And it does seem a little unfair that some T8 Character will probably stay (weather it's because the T8 Supporter who made them is still supporting or they were really popular, I don't know, if anyone who does know reads this please let me know) while others are being removed, and an argument could be made that if some of them are staying then the rest should stay or all T8 Characters should be removed because some are being removed, but that's another topic.

So to sum up my thoughts, I don't think T8 Character were a good idea in the first place, there was always a chance that the person who created the character would leave due to any number of valid reasons, which would put the character's future in the game in an odd state. I know a few favorite character are T8 Characters, and not having the T8 option would mean they would never have existed. But it would have avoided all this uncertainly weather or not some character will remain in the game or not.

Sorry for the long, somewhat ranty, post, but I felt like giving my thoughts on this.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

i check atleast 10 pages so i have an idea whats happening here so if anyone whats to start a drama about my question save it for your self not going to play your game all i want is answer.

1) so in this merge thing "When we got the release" is there any additional content like back story or alteast new specials, anything? or its just plain and straight the 3 weeks combine?

2) (lets put aside the merge update) to old players/supporters how often we got updates back then? is it a monthly base update? every 3 months? just like other games i know or its one of those game "Whenever the dev feels to update his game?" type

thanks and cheers

1) Pretty much no. There are some features that are too buggy in the current releases but will be usable in the merge. And the holiday specials will be in as dream sequences so that content might be new to you.

2) Releases were monthly. Originally it was just one in game day per release but quickly got bumped up to 2.

 

[RandoCard3]

I know I'm very late to post this, but since there was some discussion on the T8 Characters I feel like giving my opinion on the idea of T8 Character. And before I start, as I just said this is my opinion on T8 Characters, if you disagree that's fine, and I actually would like to see your point on it.

So to be blunt, the idea of T8 Patron Characters wasn't a good idea, not because the idea of adding fan made characters to a game is bad, but because of the site being used to fund this game. From my experience, games that have a specific tier for fan made characters are from Kickstarter, and I wouldn't be surprised if BlueCat got the idea for T8 Characters from there. However Kickstarter obviously works differently from Patreon. With Kickstarter, should the project be funded then everyone who back it is charged pays for what tier they got, and then they don't pay anything else, but on Patreon everyone pays for their tier every month, which can lead to issues. Perhaps the person who made the T8 Character needs to stop supporting for an unknown amount of time, or a giant delay like what is currently happening occurs and the T8 Supporter decides to stop funding for a while to make sure their money isn't wasted, what happens to the characters then. This issue doesn't happen with Kickstarter as the supporter only needs to pay once, and the character will be in the game (provided the game ever comes out, I'm sure we've all seen Kickscammers before or at least heard of one Kickstarter game that was funded and went nowhere).

So now the question is, what will happen to those T8 Characters. The most obvious answer is that the T8 Characters who had their supporter dropped will be removed from the game, it's not the answer many of us want to hear, but it's the most likely. It's not even something that you can really fault BlueCat for doing, as from my understanding the T8 Characters would be in the game as long as the person who created them was a T8 Supporter, so them being removed was always a possibility. However I'm sure others will agree with me and say that we'd rather not have them removed, sure none of the characters Rando mentioned were the most popular, but all of them seemed interesting and at the very least I would have liked to see more of them as the game went on, hell two of them were connected to other established characters. And it does seem a little unfair that some T8 Character will probably stay (weather it's because the T8 Supporter who made them is still supporting or they were really popular, I don't know, if anyone who does know reads this please let me know) while others are being removed, and an argument could be made that if some of them are staying then the rest should stay or all T8 Characters should be removed because some are being removed, but that's another topic.

So to sum up my thoughts, I don't think T8 Character were a good idea in the first place, there was always a chance that the person who created the character would leave due to any number of valid reasons, which would put the character's future in the game in an odd state. I know a few favorite character are T8 Characters, and not having the T8 option would mean they would never have existed. But it would have avoided all this uncertainly weather or not some character will remain in the game or not.

Sorry for the long, somewhat ranty, post, but I felt like giving my thoughts on this.

Agreed. I think T8 only work on the two extremes. They either get in and stay in, or they get removed. This current inbetween method doesn't work. They seemingly agree to some extent, as they stopped adding them to Ecchi Sensei, and a will be putting them in there own game, once they have time to work on that.

I really want to see what kind of weird shit the twins get up to next time, but I'd honestly rather have nothing if it meant a better final product in the end.

2) Releases were monthly. Originally it was just one in game day per release but quickly got bumped up to 2.

Before the dark times...