VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[Dukez]

Why would they do that? They've already made a content merge that most likely is better.

Status Report No. 21
Another positive news to address is the integration of all previous Ecchi Sensei releases into one large all-encompassing version. This happened with almost no error messages. (There were around 2000 merge conflicts, which were resolved independently thanks to our good preparatory work.)

That is not the issue. They are also trying to re-code alot of the game functions as well as adding more features. I suspect they ran into some problems trying to implement their new save system.

What's interesting about this is that report was in April 2021, and they started talking about Month 1 on the patreon in August 2020? If we give them the benefit of the doubt on them not starting on it until after the Halloween update on October 21, 2020... it took them what, 6 months to do what I did in a few hours manually?

I know they had some issues early 2020 but 6 whole months for that process get the fuck outta here lol. I guess maybe they have a source control system and is how they got the 2000 merge conflicts thing but I dunno... Simple critical thinking should've lead the dev to the same conclusion I came to and that was how easy it would be working backwards since the latest version also likely covers fixes for the previous versions (though I feel like source control should accomplish the same thing?) since you would build upon them and only actually be changing the dialogue scripts. E.g Some extra script translation fixes that are in week 3 files includes fixes from the previous weeks since day 1.

They must be doing an hours work a week/month at this speed.

 

[Deleted member 3482284]

If they want it tagged as either though, they should care. Like, who complains about a thing, only to say they don't care about the process to get there? They care enough to bring this up every god damn day, but not enough to actually do something about it? That doesn't sound stupid to you? If they don't care enough about their own complaints, why should the rest of us?

I actually agree that it needs to kind of tag in place to make people aware of the current situation, and stop BC's obvious gaming of the system, but I don't care enough to do anything about it, so I don't complain about it. People need to shit, or get off the pot.

So you agree that the tags are wrong. And yet you're triggered about people who complain about the way this game is tagged, even though you agree with those people

That's comical

Comedy gold

I guess when you've still got to blindly defend the game, all logic goes out the window

Nobody will protest against the rules to the forum mods. Because it would be a waste of time. It's like complaining to any business in the history of making complaints. Nothing happens

It's why nobody has enough care in them to do it. Especially for a dead game

I don't personally care how its tagged. It has been on hold for 18 months. No site requirement will change that

The most work that's been done on this game was the guy 2 days ago that posted his own merge. It says it all

Long story short, people can complain about the game, on the thread for the game. Unless you want them to jump to Wikipedia and start venting there instead. We should go to the Apollo 1 page and start ranting about bluecat and his delusional PR boy in the history section. And that Ecchi Sensei isn't tagged properly. That makes sense

Except it doesn't. Unless complaints about an 18 month delay is a bannable offence now, people will continue to do it

And people will complain about the dumb tag on this game, too. That's their right. And you won't stop that

 

[Zeeahh]

Since I haven't kept up with all the drama etc, can anyone explain to me what is actually being merged here?

 

[Badjourasmix]

Since I haven't kept up with all the drama etc, can anyone explain to me what is actually being merged here?

If you look at the op the game is divided by weeks, each week is it's individual game. The purpose of the merge is to put all 3 weeks into a single game. It was sold to the supporters as something that would be done relatively quick but here we are 14 months after the last update and we still don't have anything.

 

[RandoCard3]

So you agree that the tags are wrong. And yet you're triggered about people who complain about the way this game is tagged, even though you agree with those people

That's comical

Comedy gold

I guess when you've still got to blindly defend the game, all logic goes out the window

Nobody will protest against the rules to the forum mods. Because it would be a waste of time. It's like complaining to any business in the history of making complaints. Nothing happens

It's why nobody has enough care in them to do it. Especially for a dead game

I don't personally care how its tagged. It has been on hold for 18 months. No site requirement will change that

The most work that's been done on this game was the guy 2 days ago that posted his own merge. It says it all

Long story short, people can complain about the game, on the thread for the game. Unless you want them to jump to Wikipedia and start venting there instead. We should go to the Apollo 1 page and start ranting about bluecat and his delusional PR boy in the history section. And that Ecchi Sensei isn't tagged properly. That makes sense

Except it doesn't. Unless complaints about an 18 month delay is a bannable offence now, people will continue to do it

And people will complain about the dumb tag on this game, too. That's their right. And you won't stop that

Ok, you're devolving into jibberish about Apollo 1, which I'm just going to ignore. A few things I will answer though:

• I've never defended the game and how it's handled this merge. It's a shit show and it's dev team is a collection of baffoons.
• I never said people can't complain. I said shit or get off the pot. I actively encourage anyone who cares to solve their complaints, as there is a potential solution right there. If you're not going to follow through on it though, then you're just part of the problem. If you actively choose not to solve the problem you're complaining about, what are you even complaining about? It's like complaining about being hungry, but refusing to eat the apple on the table, cause it's too far away.
• But seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? You sound insane. What the fuck does Apollo 1 or Wikipedia have to do with anything?

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Since I haven't kept up with all the drama etc, can anyone explain to me what is actually being merged here?

If you look at the op the game is divided by weeks, each week is it's individual game. The purpose of the merge is to put all 3 weeks into a single game. It was sold to the supporters as something that would be done relatively quick but here we are 14 months after the last update and we still don't have anything.

For brevity and the sake of my own sanity, I'm just going to quote myself here.

This is the problem with so many dumbasses complaining in the thread and calling Bluecat a scammer, people are now genuinely misinformed. The merger was never about putting all 3 weeks into one download, that was just an added perk to doing it. The point of the merger was to fix the many broken mechanics of the game and set up a solid foundation for future updates so that choices could actually matter. Right now your choices don't mean shit for subsequent releases, and there's the looming threat of features like the phone causing game breaking bugs.

 

[Badjourasmix]

For brevity and the sake of my own sanity, I'm just going to quote myself here.

I never said he was a scammer, in fact I have a post just one page back, saying that I don't think they are trying to scam their supporters, but if they are not trying to scam it just means they are really bad at their job.

 

[rostabu]

good point, if we count the 14 months thats over 40k in patreon....something should have been accomplished

 

[Somebody365]

Even if the game doesn't get the abandoned tag, I think it won't take that much time until it's dead. The game in the last year has lost 25% of it's patrons and the revenue dropped by 39%.

If you think about that though, there has been bugger all progress for a year and only dropped 39% of their revenue. What incentive is there for them to do anything? I wish I had a job like that (outside of government).

 

[Badjourasmix]

If you think about that though, there has been bugger all progress for a year and only dropped 39% of their revenue. What incentive is there for them to do anything? I wish I had a job like that (outside of government).

I don't know man if I lost 39% of my revenue in just one year I would freak the fuck out. I still don't think they are doing this purposely, they were releasing frequent updates before they started working on the merge. I don't like to talk shit about devs' work but I think this is just a case of them being bad at their job.

 

[Deleted member 3482284]

Ok, you're devolving into jibberish about Apollo 1, which I'm just going to ignore. A few things I will answer though:

• I've never defended the game and how it's handled this merge. It's a shit show and it's dev team is a collection of baffoons.
• I never said people can't complain. I said shit or get off the pot. I actively encourage anyone who cares to solve their complaints, as there is a potential solution right there. If you're not going to follow through on it though, then you're just part of the problem. If you actively choose not to solve the problem you're complaining about, what are you even complaining about? It's like complaining about being hungry, but refusing to eat the apple on the table, cause it's too far away.
• But seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? You sound insane. What the fuck does Apollo 1 or Wikipedia have to do with anything?

I was being sarcastic. I guess that went over your head though. I'm not surprised. What you're complaining about is really dumb. And when people do dumb things, I like to laugh about it

People will complain about the 18 month delay, they'll do it on this thread for the game. If you don't like it, block them. Or better yet, go to the mods and tell them about it. Follow your own advice

And hopefully you see how stupid that advice is now. Because it offers no help to anybody

As for the wikipedia joke, you seem to think people can't complain here about the game. It should have been pretty clear what the meaning behind it is. We should all go somewhere else just so you don't have to read it. All we can do here is listen to PR boy and believe bluecat like we're r*tards

Anyways, you asking pointless questions to me is spamming this thread. And I don't feel like poking life into a dead game all day long. It's entertaining, yes. A waste of time, yes to that too. My sarcasm is wasted on you anyway, the wikipedia joke was lost on you. Shame

Nobody here cares to read a pointless argument for a finished game. So I'll save them going through it anymore

 

[Zarathos4]

i'm not counting the whole "in the past" stuff (unless it relates to the gang member chic he fucked when he was a teen, who IIRC is Fuyu's mom, which makes Fuyu his daughter. n who said anything about a niece? Kotori is his wife's sister)

Wasn't talking about Kotori. One the last scenes of the game. Matsu's sister shows up with a girl, who is supposed to be his niece. But the eyes are covered up. Because spoilers I guess. But in the past Matsu raped his sister. But she was into it, so maybe it was only half rape. Matsu family is fucked up....anyway. Matsu's sister's daughter is most likely not Matsu's niece but his daughter with his sister. a product of one of his nightly exploratory sex sister rapes. And yes. I kinda forgot about that. But yeah Fuyu might be related too. Matsu got around even in the past.

 

[greggggggy]

P.S. "Ecchi Sensei" LITERALLY translates to "Perverted Teacher"
wow you speak japanese bro?

 

[Dukez]

I don't know man if I lost 39% of my revenue in just one year I would freak the fuck out. I still don't think they are doing this purposely, they were releasing frequent updates before they started working on the merge. I don't like to talk shit about devs' work but I think this is just a case of them being bad at their job.

I don't think they care too much about the revenue even though it's counter productive to his goal of living in Japan, he should really care but considering how infrequent and further away their patreon posts became after the merge started he mustn't care that much or we'd see more regular posts and assuring content in them.

High $ per worked hour rate I'm sure.

 

[Nikeee]

He lost 40% of his revenue but now he doesn't need to work at all to earn that, that's a really good trade.

 

[Soulonus]

It looks like a lack of proper (or any) planning and good leadership (in the team) to me.

Although I think there would be a new version. It definitely could and should've come out faster.

Looking at the early code, it seems like it was frankensteined together. I think they had problems while un-engineering it and 'fixing it' and kept falling into the traps of their unrealistic promises making a cycle of missing deadlines.

 

[RandoCard3]

It looks like a lack of proper (or any) planning and good leadership (in the team) to me.

Although I think there would be a new version. It definitely could and should've come out faster.

Looking at the early code, it seems like it was frankensteined together. I think they had problems while un-engineering it and 'fixing it' and kept falling into the traps of their unrealistic promises making a cycle of missing deadlines.

Maybe they should just start over. Not ideal, but it seems like the best option. Maybe even hire an animator and someone to make unique character models. Though that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.

 

[Soulonus]

Maybe they should start over. Not ideal, but it seems like the best option. Maybe even hire an animator and someone to make unique character models. Though that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.

Maybe they did start over at some point? And that would be faster than trying to fix it.

Well, I can only speculate.

 

[rostabu]

So if kotori is hiroko's sister and we go along with the theory mao is from hiroko's father that makes kotori both mao's aunt and half sister.

 

[Soulonus]

So if kotori is hiroko's sister and we go along with the theory mao is from hiroko's father that makes kotori both mao's aunt and half sister.

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Although that'd be funny if your theory turns out to be true. If we ever find out that is.