rostabu

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problem is after 16 years and a joyful family life why would hiroko allow such pain to be brought upon mao if it was a lie? its much more likely her having been accosted by her father (whether drunk or not) remembering his wife would have been VERY pregnant at the time, her never admitting this to matsu for fear of him beating her father to death. Would also explain why her father was so determined for her to have an abortion.
 

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as I am playing through the dukez merge I am at the animecon, I see the billboard for "ecchi sensei the anime" thinking to myself ,with the game caught in production hell, the anime won't be out this century.

yes there are a few errors due to missing pic files, so far no game breaking errors but I didn't do the holloween episode as I have no deepseated need to meet doorkun again.
 
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Something like this was my old theory as well but I added the possibility it could also have been Matsu's dad because he found out that his son was fucking his wife.

so that would mean in addition to his daughters he would be doing both his sister and his halfsister/stepdaughter
 
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It always caught my attention that everyone thinks it could be Matsu who raped Hiroko Or maybe someone else, but why couldn't it be Hiroko who actually raped him? :KEK:

One night with an extra glass of wine, she climbed through the window while matsu was sleeping and took advantage of him, she was afraid of losing him and did that, but later felt bad about what she did since she raped him and thinking that If she told the mc the truth he would really get mad and lose him and since she never said anything to him in the end the mc just assumed she cheated on him. (we know that the wife does not tolerate alcohol and that she has had sex with the mc while he sleeps, it really would not seem strange to me if it turns out to be something like that haha, maybe I'm missing a key part so that wouldn't be possible, but it was so long ago that I played that I really don't remember the scenes of the past really well :HideThePain: )
 

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It always caught my attention that everyone thinks it could be Matsu who raped Hiroko Or maybe someone else, but why couldn't it be Hiroko who actually raped him? :KEK:

One night with an extra glass of wine, she climbed through the window while matsu was sleeping and took advantage of him, she was afraid of losing him and did that, but later felt bad about what she did since she raped him and thinking that If she told the mc the truth he would really get mad and lose him and since she never said anything to him in the end the mc just assumed she cheated on him. (we know that the wife does not tolerate alcohol and that she has had sex with the mc while he sleeps, it really would not seem strange to me if it turns out to be something like that haha, maybe I'm missing a key part so that wouldn't be possible, but it was so long ago that I played that I really don't remember the scenes of the past really well :HideThePain: )
not sure how much sense that makes because at one point MC says that he can be used while he sleeps, Hiroko knows this .. so theres no more fear factor for her.
 

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not sure how much sense that makes because at one point MC says that he can be used while he sleeps, Hiroko knows this .. so theres no more fear factor for her.
Yes, but maybe when they were young they hadn't had that conversation? that is, they were getting to know each other, he helped her and for her he was the only person she could trust, surely after they moved in together and ran away and the MC accepted her completely, she did not have the courage to tell him? (or maybe in the past scene he already told her that she could use him?)
 
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Yes, but maybe when they were young they hadn't had that conversation? that is, they were getting to know each other, he helped her and for her he was the only person she could trust, surely after they moved in together and ran away and the MC accepted her completely, she did not have the courage to tell him? (or maybe in the past scene he already told her that she could use it?)
most likely they didn't had this conversation when they were younger
but they had it in game recently (I'm pretty sure) anyway the point is if that were the case she already knows that MC does not mind if Hiroko wakes up in the middle of the night and mounts him , so he wouldn't be bothered by her actions, therefore he wouldn't be upset if something like that happened and caused Mao's birth,
therefore he would have told him about that , that's why I don't think it's what you're saying
even if you add to your theory that she thinks MC will be upset because she hid this from him for 18years and could have easily been solved , even then I still think it's a stretch
 
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The discussion about who is Mao's father is always interesting. :p


Anyone else noticed that since Dukez posted his merge of the game Skummy didn't post anything?
He said he was going to be away before that happened I think. Either way, I haven't seen him in the Discord either, so I don't think these are related.

Besides, it's already known that the actual merging part of the merge was neither the point or the problem slowing things down, so it's not like this has somehow fixed the major problems and put everyone involved to shame.
 

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idr matsu's father being in the game, just the mother and sister.
That's kinda my issue with it being anyone but Matsu. The other's aren't characters at all. If it's either, they should have made an appearance, even if only for a little bit.
 

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We'll probably get another flashback scene if that's the case. Both families are dysfunctional so it wouldn't be a surprise.
 
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most likely they didn't had this conversation when they were younger
but they had it in game recently (I'm pretty sure) anyway the point is if that were the case she already knows that MC does not mind if Hiroko wakes up in the middle of the night and mounts him , so he wouldn't be bothered by her actions, therefore he wouldn't be upset if something like that happened and caused Mao's birth,
therefore he would have told him about that , that's why I don't think it's what you're saying
even if you add to your theory that she thinks MC will be upset because she hid this from him for 18years and could have easily been solved , even then I still think it's a stretch
While you might not be bothered, most people I know would be pissed as hell that she violated his trust and then hid it for 19 years even though she saw that it was creating a massive rift within the family and the pain that it caused him, his daughter and the rest of the family for years. Given how concerned he was in week one about Mao's alienation I would find it hard to believer he wouldn't be angry.

That's not even getting into the issue of how it would change his perception of his wife. Her actions move her at least 2 steps lower on the Submissive scale and 3 steps up on the Violent Yandere scale.

And lets not get started on the issue of if he can still trust her both in the future and concerning any secrets he may have shared.
 
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While you might not be bothered, most people I know would be pissed as hell that she violated his trust and then hid it for 19 years even though she saw that it was creating a massive rift within the family and the pain that it caused him, his daughter and the rest of the family for years. Given how concerned he was in week one about Mao's alienation I would find it hard to believer he wouldn't be angry.

That's not even getting into the issue of how it would change his perception of his wife. Her actions move her at least 2 steps lower on the Submissive scale and 3 steps up on the Violent Yandere scale.

And lets not get started on the issue of if he can still trust her both in the future and concerning any secrets he may have shared.
I understand what you are saying but what if Hiroko thinks that the actual truth would hurt the family even more.
 

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what truth are you saying? scenario A) she jumped her bf's bones while he slept then lied to him for 18+ years telling him he isn't mao's dad? scenario b) that while having relations he kinda blacked out and forced himself on the love of his life and stayed with her even though she said it wasn't his, this lie causing a 3 year painful family rift? scenario c)her father forced himself on her and she didn't disclose that because the chances were/are high matsu would beat the guy to death? scenario d)matsu's non existant father forced himself on her see c) for results...
or e)she got drunk/was drugged and was taken advantage of by persons unknown... f) knowingly slept with another.
 
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Damn, all of those sound pretty horrible. Guess there's not really a good scenario for a mystery daddy is there? ;)
 
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