VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[Smarmint]

The merge has been in development for almost 2 years. Bluecat or Latecomer, not sure, uses the github. My question is this: Why can't Latecomer or Bluecat tell people in a post how much percentage is done?

Because it is 0%.

 

[Dukez]

MTL stuff aside there is zero reason BlueCat can't release a german only version of his work if it's apparently all be written, "rendered" etc. It would also probably be a good learning lesson for them since when I looked at the code they did both german & english in the same script file whereas from what I saw Renpy already has a inbuilt way to do translations which they were also using but only for minor fix ups/corrections to stuff. Ideally the main script should be only in german, and the extra files for english etc do the translation layer using the way renpy has built in. Adding an english patch later would be easy.

Heck with how good these MTL things were earlier, I'd bet someone could MTL translate a whole episode and release an english patch in like half an hour lol. Computers work fast after all.

 

[layer1avn]

It's funny that the text quality is seemingly so important to the author when the in-game art is so poorly done and poorly thought out. (Imagine the injuries and subsequent lawsuits if a high school put a recessed, square running track around a volleyball court.)

I suppose the story is the only thing going for it, but trying to make sense of this mess is fruitless.

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

The reason they don't do percentages, is cause Bluecat has no clue what's left and Latecomer just never wanted to, I suppose at least. The honest answer as to why this is all happening? Is I have no damn idea what Bluecat is thinking really, I talk with him on it but his reasoning is bizarre, or we're getting meanings lost with his lacking of english and my lacking of german, one of the two and maybe both. I'm trying my damnedest to convince him to just put out an update, that's as far as I'll go with that for now.

Sorry that I'm not always more clear, eggshells man. There's a lot of them to be stepping on.

 

[RandoCard3]

The reason they don't do percentages, is cause Bluecat has no clue what's left and Latecomer just never wanted to, I suppose at least. The honest answer as to why this is all happening? Is I have no damn idea what Bluecat is thinking really, I talk with him on it but his reasoning is bizarre, or we're getting meanings lost with his lacking of english and my lacking of german, one of the two and maybe both. I'm trying my damnedest to convince him to just put out an update, that's as far as I'll go with that for now.

Sorry that I'm not always more clear, eggshells man. There's a lot of them to be stepping on.

That's actually good to hear, actually, if a little frustrating. At least we know what the issue is now.

Have you tried talking to the rest of the team about it? A united front might get through to BC, or if they agree with him, make your attempts impossible.

Any idea if my questioning in the Feedback channel is helping or hindering your efforts? I'm willing to change my angle if it gets this thing moving again.

 

[GuacamoleBen]

I'm feeling really dumb but could someone point me at the proper link(s) for week 3? I download the one i think from mega (under the heading "Week 3 - Days 15-21" but the file i get is titled EcchiSensei-D2021v1.0-FINAL.zip and only seems to have days 20 and 21. Do we need to play 15-17, 18-19, 20-21 as separate downloads on mega and dark mind patch? Or is there a combined file somewhere. For that matter i don't see a link on the main first thread for 15-17 or 18-19.

There is the Week 3 - Days 15-21 Final - Crunched link in the compressed section of that main first post... WOuld i then install that and then do the three separate dark mind patches (which seem to overwrite eachother).....

 

[SevenTenSplit]

RIP Crazy Nurse

 

[RandoCard3]

I'm feeling really dumb but could someone point me at the proper link(s) for week 3? I download the one i think from mega (under the heading "Week 3 - Days 15-21" but the file i get is titled EcchiSensei-D2021v1.0-FINAL.zip and only seems to have days 20 and 21. Do we need to play 15-17, 18-19, 20-21 as separate downloads on mega and dark mind patch? Or is there a combined file somewhere. For that matter i don't see a link on the main first thread for 15-17 or 18-19.

There is the Week 3 - Days 15-21 Final - Crunched link in the compressed section of that main first post... WOuld i then install that and then do the three separate dark mind patches (which seem to overwrite eachother).....

D2021 is Week 3. It's just poorly named.

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

That's actually good to hear, actually, if a little frustrating. At least we know what the issue is now.

Have you tried talking to the rest of the team about it? A united front might get through to BC, or if they agree with him, make your attempts impossible.

Any idea if my questioning in the Feedback channel is helping or hindering your efforts? I'm willing to change my angle if it gets this thing moving again.

I'll let you know when he wakes up and I talk to him again, for now I'mma just be vague but hopefully I can lift that curtain up soon. As for suggestions, we'll see

 

[opiex942]

The reason they don't do percentages, is cause Bluecat has no clue what's left and Latecomer just never wanted to, I suppose at least.

But you have to see how this would absolutely sap any sort of faith one would have in Bluecat's ability to deliver on anything he promises, right?
There's no point in having grand plans for the next 11 in-game months of content if you can't figure out a month-to-month real time workflow. Which should include progress reports from team members that are doing work.

 

[Wolfen5]

But you have to see how this would absolutely sap any sort of faith one would have in Bluecat's ability to deliver on anything he promises, right?
There's no point in having grand plans for the next 11 in-game months of content if you can't figure out a month-to-month real time workflow. Which should include progress reports from team members that are doing work.

Hence, why we are where we are now. 16 months of silence, fabricated delusions, disingenuousness and egg shells being sprinkled around, potentially triggering PR.

 

[FunkyD]

I'll let you know when he wakes up and I talk to him again, for now I'mma just be vague but hopefully I can lift that curtain up soon. As for suggestions, we'll see

I know you've been getting a lot of flak lately, being the spokesperson and current face and mouthpiece of the development, but i just want to say that without you this entire thing would be more chaotic and dramatic than it already is. While i do have mix feelings about some of the statements you and the other members of the dev team have said in the past, i do understand that those are to be expected when there are no clear objective in an in-cohesive team; and the fact that despite all of that and you're still here doing what you do, is remarkable. I just want to thank you for giving us information and updates of the game while being bombarded with our cancerous rambling.

 

[Blackdragon0083]

any update on this?

hahahahahahaha.

serious response:
* merge is either canceled or being worked on the side by the coder / main translator.
* Supposedly next update is done and rendered but BC cant find a translator to translate from German to English.
* community asked him to use Machine Translation (MTL)
* BC asked community to see examples of translator vs MTL community voted for MTL
* BC said he was gonna not do MTL and will not be updating people on project status unless they pay him.
* BC refuses to release the update or show proof that it exists after a 2 years delay despite it supposedly being done but only in German.
* Community is pissed and BC is slowly losing patrion money.

(edit: correction though BC did not say he wouldn't do MTL but rather that he will not do MTL until other plans fall threw)

 

[RandoCard3]

hahahahahahaha.

serious response:
* merge is either canceled or being worked on the side by the coder / main translator.
* Supposedly next update is done and rendered but BC cant find a translator to translate from German to English.
* community asked him to use Machine Translation (MTL)
* BC asked community to see examples of translator vs MTL community voted for MTL
* BC said he was gonna not do MTL and will not be updating people on project status unless they pay him.
* BC refuses to release the update or show proof that it exists after a 2 years delay despite it supposedly being done but only in German.
* Community is pissed and BC is slowly losing patrion money.

I think they were referring to what Skummy said specifically, but that is a good summary of events so far. A minor correction though. BC didn't say he wouldn't go with MTL, he's just pussyfooting about due to some hang ups about using it. And yeah, the merge is still being worked on by Latecomer, but is no longer the soul focus of the team anymore.

 

[Pet_Pat]

Hmmmmm, wasn't it said all along that he was doing his job? That would be about 3 weeks of new content up to now.



And now he can't tell if it's happening in week 4?

 

[RandoCard3]

Hmmmmm, wasn't it said all along that he was doing his job? That would be about 3 weeks of new content up to now.

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And now he can't tell if it's happening in week 4?

I guess only most of the plot is planned out, not all of it. Which is good, as it means he's not locking himself into plot threads if it doesn't work. That's what happened with Game of Thrones.

We know high level Patrons gain access to spoilers for up to 100 days, so this probably isn't as damning as you think.

 

[Sharingan33]

Why the staff didn't put the abandoned tag for this game?

 

[Blackdragon0083]

I think they were referring to what Skummy said specifically, but that is a good summary of events so far. A minor correction though. BC didn't say he wouldn't go with MTL, he's just pussyfooting about due to some hang ups about using it. And yeah, the merge is still being worked on by Latecomer, but is no longer the soul focus of the team anymore.

Yeah thank you. I got his meaning shortly after I posted it, kept it up because my laughter would be the same in either context.

Why the staff didn't put the abandoned tag for this game?

Because it is not abandoned in the most technical of sense's. The developer posts regular (Paywalled) "Status Updates" and is active somewhat in his own discord. However make no mistake the posts are a bunch of claptrap that is incredibly uninformative and his excuses are never backed up by evidence or tangible proof of work, never the less by the rules of this site his project is still considered to be in active development but again only in the most technical of senses. Anyone with two braincells to put together knows that this title needs some kind of warning placed over it to notify people of its perpetual purgatory.

Welcome to the Sensei Kumite, here is your complementary torch and pitchfork. please see Octosky for the latest rules and information and remember to laugh because otherwise your gonna cry.

 

[RandoCard3]

any update on this?

I can't be certain, but I'm assuming he's asleep still, due to him not being on Discord. I get the impression he's a night owl.

 

[Dukez]

Hmmmmm, wasn't it said all along that he was doing his job? That would be about 3 weeks of new content up to now.

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And now he can't tell if it's happening in week 4?

One would think after going well over a year with no update he would've written ahead since that's his job regardless of if days prior has been released yet or not. You would think given that amount of time passing, he would've completed writing week 4 by now.

I guess this could potentially be looked at as soft confirmation that he hasn't done exactly that, in which case also confirms he himself coasted by on patreon without working on it for at least some (latter) period of time.