VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[Parnso]

First: They're called renders because the game assets are pre-rendered image rather than the models and instructions on how to position them (like for example a Unity-based VN would use). The complexity (or simplicity) of the process involved is irrelevant.

Second: That's like saying writing a book is just typing words. Getting the poses, facial expressions, lighting, and everything else right is non-trivial work. It's not technically complex work, but there are enough bad VNs on this site to show what happens when you lack those creative skills.



You'd be surprised how long people can muddle along without reading the documentation (or even finding it). Making something that works does not mean learning how to do it well. Far more common is to get stuck in bad habits that land you in trouble down the line as your technical debt comes due. This leads to big delays as you go back and hopefully do things the right way.

The root of ES's problems is that BC is a creative type with big dreams (any software developer can tell you all about those people with "an amazing app idea!!!"), who is learning the hard way that ideas are only half the battle. It's pretty clear BC doesn't have the technical skills to make the game they want, and may not even be able to comprehend the progress (or lack thereof in this case) of those actually working on it.

Are you high?

 

[baloneysammich]

So what you're saying is that after 4 years of working with the software, BlueCat is still just too stupid to have figured it out by now? Lol Not a big vote of confidence from you, my dude.

Not sure if serious

or stup...endous misunderstanding​

 

[Deleted member 2216181]

Man this whole thing has just bummed me out. I've watched the game/thread long enough to know where this is headed but Jesus. I really loved this game and these characters and it just makes me really sad that i dont get to learn more about them. I mean, what happens between MC and Mao or Saki???? Fuck you BlueCat for not caring about these characters as much as the rest of us. The fanbase and characters deserved more from you.

 

[Construct]

First: They're called renders because the game assets are pre-rendered image rather than the models and instructions on how to position them (like for example a Unity-based VN would use). The complexity (or simplicity) of the process involved is irrelevant.

Second: That's like saying writing a book is just typing words. Getting the poses, facial expressions, lighting, and everything else right is non-trivial work. It's not technically complex work, but there are enough bad VNs on this site to show what happens when you lack those creative skills

To these to points I‘d argue that using an Illusion game allows you to produce renders faster, because you don‘t actually have to render anything. As you said, it‘s non-trivial to get everything right, but after that you are done. Screenshot it and you got your render.

Using DAZ you have at minimum the same amount of work for posing, lighting etc. Additionally you then have to actually render the scene, the time of how long this takes depends on your computers power.

Given the same amount of time and skill level, a dev using DAZ will likely create less renders than a dev using an Illusion game.

As such it is expected of Bluecat to have a created a massive amount of renders during the downtime of this merge.

 

[jodike]

To these to points I‘d argue that using an Illusion game allows you to produce renders faster, because you don‘t actually have to render anything. As you said, it‘s non-trivial to get everything right, but after that you are done. Screenshot it and you got your render.

Using DAZ you have at minimum the same amount of work for posing, lighting etc. Additionally you then have to actually render the scene, the time of how long this takes depends on your computers power.

Given the same amount of time and skill level, a dev using DAZ will likely create less renders than a dev using an Illusion game.

As such it is expected of Bluecat to have a created a massive amount of renders during the downtime of this merge.

Best bluecat can do is 2.5 renders for the 2 years of bullshit excuses

 

[DeeCanon]

so have they released any information about the update? any previews? anything?
considering all the writing and images were done for it what 2 years ago you'd think he would want to show something to give patreons a reason to stay subbed at the very least

 

[Crowangel]

so have they released any information about the update? any previews? anything?
considering all the writing and images were done for it what 2 years ago you'd think he would want to show something to give patreons a reason to stay subbed at the very least

zip zero zilch nada bupkiss diddlysquat naff-all none not a cucking flue lol

 

[DeeCanon]

zip zero zilch nada bupkiss diddlysquat naff-all none not a cucking flue lol

disappointing but sadly not surprising

 

[Ickerax]

Actually there has been some day 22/23 image previews in some of the supporter threads. But nothing confirming the release date other than due April .

 

[Funny Asian Pirate]

Maybe if there wasn't like 3 dozen characters, the game might have been finished already.

 

[KnuckleDragger79]

Maybe if there wasn't like 3 dozen characters, the game might have been finished already.

True, but 2 YEARS without an update is fucking ridiculous.

 

[BoltonGuy35]

Actually there has been some day 22/23 image previews in some of the supporter threads. But nothing confirming the release date other than due April .

April 2122?

 

[yoda123]

His bi-monthy Patreon post should arrive soon, if he'll even bother with it, now that the game will be marked abandoned any way.

 

[layer1avn]

People should get on the Discord voice channel and sing Auld Lang Syne at midnight on the 30th.

 

[Ickerax]

People should get on the Discord voice channel and sing Auld Lang Syne at midnight on the 30th.

He is Austrian not Scottish. Wouldn't Mozart's Funeral March be a better selection. Having said that he is a big fan of all things Japanese and in Japan shops and museums play Auld Lang Syne just before closing to let me know its time to leave.

 

[4r33lh4rd]

Haven't checked on this game in months. Almost forgot about it; came to see if there was any update yet and everything still the same.

 

[layer1avn]

He is Austrian not Scottish. Wouldn't Mozart's Funeral March be a better selection. Having said that he is a big fan of all things Japanese and in Japan shops and museums play Auld Lang Syne just before closing to let me know its time to leave.

In the U.S. it is sung to celebrate the New Year, which in this case would be the transition to Abandoned status.

 

[KnuckleDragger79]

People should get on the Discord voice channel and sing Auld Lang Syne at midnight on the 30th.

Good luck. From what I have seen, anyone that brings up the topic of an update either gets completely ignored, given an excuse, or ban from the channel. There is no Progress channel anymore, no Update channel, and EVERYTHING is locked behind a paywall on his Patreon, including written updates.

 

[RandoCard3]

Good luck. From what I have seen, anyone that brings up the topic of an update either gets completely ignored, given an excuse, or ban from the channel. There is no Progress channel anymore, no Update channel, and EVERYTHING is locked behind a paywall on his Patreon, including written updates.

Don't think I've ever seen a ban, but asking questions tends to get belligerence in response, if you get a response at all.

 

[Halfelf]

I havnt posted on this thread in a long while. Mainly due to the fact the last time i posted it got deleted cause i was defending Blue and the progress on the VN. Now i was a patreon at the $100 dollar lvl and have a char in the VN. But due to moving and other financial things i had to stop my payments. But i still hope and check everyday to see if this VN has restarted. And i will continue to hope it does even though it is looking more and more like it wont. To all of the Negative folks in this thread all i have to say is this. It seems you all have given up on this VN. So why stay here and continue to spread the hate? Move on to other things and be happy.Or are your lives that boring that you have to come on to an internet forum and spread hate? But enough of that like i already said i will continue to hope this VN move on and if it does i hope i will be able to find some Money to support it cause imo it deserves to be supported. Well once it has a record of moving forward again that is.