VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[Smarmint]

You're old enough to know what a broken record sounds like?

Haha. Barely! I played some of my parents old records growing up, mostly Elton John and the Beach Boys, but by the time I had my own money, I bought all my music in cassette tapes. Eventually, I saved up enough from my after-school job to buy a compact disk player. Which I think cost about $400,. It was quite an upgrade to cassette tapes. No more rewinding!

 

[baloneysammich]

But, what did I say that wasn't correct? Are there any choices other than "see scene" or "skip scene"? Sure, Bluecat uses different language like "Visit Mao's Room" or "Go To Bed", but basically each choice is just to see a particular scene or not. Occasionally there will be a choice of two different scenes presented to the player, but none of the choices, as far as I can tell from the gameplay, affect anything other than the current moment. So no need to track a lot of long-term player variables.

I'm not making a case for complexity here, but for example there are the character routes with Fuyu and Himiko, how you handle Christa's secret, whether or not to indulge Nanami's fetish, whether or not you visit Satomi in the club, etc.

In fact, given that they currently track choices with variables like d1d1 (ie. day 1 decision 1), it's easy to find that in D10_11.rpy for example there are over 20 references to previous days' decisions.* Even if the implications are minor or even trivial, they're being used regardless.

* Full disclosure, that seems to be an outlier but it happened to be the first I checked.

My only point was that the status updates try to make it sound like Ecchi Sensei is an especially complex game, which is why so much re-coding is needed.

Meanwhile, to me the updates sound like the genuine perspective of amateurs who are "trying to solve a problem with the same kind of thinking that created it." Granted I didn't start paying close attention to the updates until after reading Skummy's "incompetence defense" and learning that... well, let's just say learning something else that IMO bolstered his case. So maybe I'm guilty of confirmation bias.

 

[Dukez]

Surely they aren't rewriting the engine core to accomodate some storage system changes, which apparently are tied to saves? Like what the... just learn to code properly and be smart with what actually needs saving and what it should do when it opens that save.

They unironically could've started from scratch and just copy/pasted pictures & dialogue text and it would be done MONTHS ago. Heck they could've even changed engines to UE4, learn how that engine works, built a full visual novel system for said game, taken advantage of the Oodle compression for smaller game size on all those pictures as a side benefit (and hopefully UE4's blueprints forcing them to write data smarter) and they'd come out ahead of where they are currently.

I bet they will have even more problems in the future, god forbid if the current coder leaves (probably should've been replaced anyway if that's their solution) and gives them a mess for someone else to try and fix.

 

[locomotor79]

is this game still alive even though there patreon gets update's but only paying members can read it

 

[Nikeee]

They're trying to rewrite Renpy lmao. Just a bunch of retards.

 

[msr9568]

Qusestion is what version of the Rona will we be on by the time of the next release lol

 

[blackpowerman]

damn dude, their patrons fell OFF

if they couldn't get an update out for 6k a month they sure as hell aint getting it for 3k

let all software devs learn from this: Learn what people like about your stuff, and then do more of that

you make a gonzo incest porn game, no one cares if you have dynamic porn camera angles (which is nearly impossible in renpy as it stands). They just care if you fuck everyone in a 100 mile radius of the town

 

[Sam10]

is there a DM patch for halloween 2020?

 

[RandoCard3]

is there a DM patch for halloween 2020?

Yeah, it's the latest one.

 

[BiggySmall]

How do I get the DM patch for the Valentine Special? Or is the Valentine Special in one of the weeks as a flashback?

 

[baloneysammich]

How do I get the DM patch for the Valentine Special? Or is the Valentine Special in one of the weeks as a flashback?

Pretty sure it's integrated.

 

[Rudy286]

Ok so is there a fix for the errors after fuyu blowjob on day 4 week 1?

 

[baloneysammich]

Ok so is there a fix for the errors after fuyu blowjob on day 4 week 1?

If it's related to the phone, IIRC few people were able to reproduce that and the only option is to ignore.

 

[lapau]

Hi Guys!
It's time again for a new state of the Nation status report.
Those of you with access to #gitlab-notification in Discord might have seen that new revisions have recently been made to the calendar and the Ecchi Phone 2.0 (or is it 3.0 by now?).
We are also working on the translation files for the Charinfo and its functionality as a whole.
Some of you have asked me why we not just release Month 1 but instead keep wasting time on “pointless” features.
Well, for some might the features be a waste of time, but for others, they are a big part of what makes the game what it is.
Even if we'd give up the features, that would only marginally speed up the work since the big challenge lies in Ren'Py itself — It's necessary to disassemble the core code of the engine because of our new storage system.
Still, we're making progress, and to all of those out there who, like me, want to see new Ecchi Sensei updates, times are getting better, I promise. We will be back to our usual rhythm after Month 1, and we will be giving out monstrous updates again.
To be able to present you a playable Month 1 version as soon as possible, we will proceed to work our asses off.
So long,
Blue

Still no exact date, or even a crude estimation. That's a classic BlueCat right there.

 

[baloneysammich]

Still no exact date, or even a crude estimation. That's a classic BlueCat right there.

Not entirely fair IMO. Early in the merge process he 1) made it clear he was reluctant to give exact dates because of what happened during week 1 merge, and 2) made several estimations. The fact that the estimations proved to be spectacularly incorrect probably made him reluctant to do any more of that, too.

 

[KnuckleDragger79]

Well, it was a good game wile it lasted. R.I.P. Ecchi Sensei. Off to Recycle Bin Oblivion you go.

 

[90210nyc]

It is not in english. can't read it (week 2)

The prompts are not. The rest is in english. So I have no idea what I am responding to.

 

[lapau]

Not entirely fair IMO. Early in the merge process he 1) made it clear he was reluctant to give exact dates because of what happened during week 1 merge, and 2) made several estimations. The fact that the estimations proved to be spectacularly incorrect probably made him reluctant to do any more of that, too.

An estimation won't hurt, you know. It would be nice even. If they couldn't fulfill it, just communicate it. Be honest, something that BlueCat has been missed all along.

 

[Dragon59]

An estimation won't hurt, you know. It would be nice even. If they couldn't fulfill it, just communicate it. Be honest, something that BlueCat has been missed all along.

Given the reaction of people when estimations aren't met, yeah, it does hurt in a way. The traffic here doesn't not encourage one to take a chance with an estimate.

 

[Smarmint]

I agree partially that devs giving an exact estimate can cause issues. If I were a dev and planned to release an update in 30 or 60 days, I wouldn't give an exact date either. That is just asking for complaints if anything happens. I would just say, I plan on releasing something in the next 2 to 4 months.

However, if I had a game on hold* for 10 months, I could at least say, an update is expected in the next 3 months, or the next 6 months, or the next year, or whenever. Bluecat can just take his best estimate, add a few months, and then make that the target. But to have no idea whatsoever? What has Bluecat been doing all this time?

But other than saying "soon" back in November, he has never given his Patron's anything other than meaningless or demonstrably false claims of supposed "work", without making any concrete statements about actual progress. He hasn't even released a single image, line of new dialog, or even comments about plans for the story.

If I read back all his status updates, the most specific thing I can find is that unspecified updating of coding is happening, and that they are updating some graphics in the main menu screen. And something about recoding the RenPy engine, which I don't take seriously as it is totally ridiculous. Next we will hear that he is inventing his own custom image compression format so he can reduce file sizes better than .jpg or webp. Anything other than actually working on the game, and making new content.

* Despite the forum criteria, this game is on hold based on zero evidence of specific progress in 10 months.

Probably none of the forum mods will chime in, but after 10 months of a whole lot of nothing, I am truly curious how long this game will be considered by this forum to be in active development. If a dev says he or someone else is generally working on the game, but never shows any evidence or estimates for release, and never actually does anything, forever, will it ever be put on hold here? Could Bluecat just give the same gibberish sounding status updates every 2.5 months for the next 5 years, and avoid the abandoned or on-hold tag?

I still remember that Milfy City was finally marked abandoned a few months ago, after several years of nothing, and shockingly, the dev quickly came up with an update after only a few weeks. Amazing.