it would help for he would be more inclined to talk and he wont get new ppl paying while he's acting this way i know I'm not putting money for something that looks dead in the water.
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idc about patreon not punishing BlueCat but in this forum it should be tagged as "abandoned" or "on hold" or "delayed", it has been a long time ago since the latest new content without dev giving appropriate notification
people will be baited and fished to bluecat patreon page and others, making bluecat gain those money from people who doesn't know that the new content is "coming soon" for not "soon"
i've read about the 3 months rule and its loophole, dev can say nothing in 89 days then say "it will come soon" in last day to avoid the abandoned tag
this make me wonder wether this site get a commission from bluecat for not giving those tag? because ppl who come to this site will see this game is not on hold then they decide to support the dev, but turn out the dev is delaying for a long time
bluecat get money from those "tricked" newcomer, then he use a portion of the money to pay this site a tribute
and before you said that i'm just a freeloader so my opinion doesn't matter, isn't this a pirating site? every member should matter wether they support the dev or not, this is not patreon page or bluecat personal forum
also i notice someone replying to my comment, but my comment has been deleted
can't a member of this site comment what their opinion is? why does this site biased toward BlueCat?
people will be baited and fished to bluecat patreon page and others, making bluecat gain those money from people who doesn't know that the new content is "coming soon" for not "soon"
i've read about the 3 months rule and its loophole, dev can say nothing in 89 days then say "it will come soon" in last day to avoid the abandoned tag
this make me wonder wether this site get a commission from bluecat for not giving those tag? because ppl who come to this site will see this game is not on hold then they decide to support the dev, but turn out the dev is delaying for a long time
bluecat get money from those "tricked" newcomer, then he use a portion of the money to pay this site a tribute
and before you said that i'm just a freeloader so my opinion doesn't matter, isn't this a pirating site? every member should matter wether they support the dev or not, this is not patreon page or bluecat personal forum
also i notice someone replying to my comment, but my comment has been deleted
can't a member of this site comment what their opinion is? why does this site biased toward BlueCat?
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Let's be clear, i was a patreon of ecchi and than on subscribestar, for over a year, and i got tired of monthly report of nothing, i work with maya for particle graphics, and i do know a thing or two, someone told that they are not scammer but instead they just fucked up, maybe, but if i fuck up, i do take the responsibilities of my mistakes, stop charging and work 18 hours per day to get things back as they should, than i ask to my former supporters if they agree with my "fixing", and only if they say yes i will start to charge again, in the meantime i will report to them every day, not for them, but the questions and the pressure will keep me from getting lazy.
EDIT: as a former supporter, i think the game was good, and if i will ever see the same effort that there was in the first 3 weeks, i am ready to support the game again.
EDIT: as a former supporter, i think the game was good, and if i will ever see the same effort that there was in the first 3 weeks, i am ready to support the game again.
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I think that is what bothers most of us. The severe lack of effort. Even someone with basic computer skills, could merge Ecchi Sensei versions in a few weeks of diligent work, and a month or two of barely any work. The fact that the devs have been able to drag it out for a year, collecting many thousands a month, bothers a lot of people.
I am sure they will release something with new content someday, but based on Bluecat and teams "efforts", I don't think they will ever get to a steady and sizeable release schedule like we used to see with this game.
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I said it before and I'll say it again:
Anyone who thinks paywalling simple progress reports is a good idea should have their brain checked. Imagine going to the stock market but only being able to see the finantial reports of companies you already bought stock of.
Anyone who thinks paywalling simple progress reports is a good idea should have their brain checked. Imagine going to the stock market but only being able to see the finantial reports of companies you already bought stock of.
Right now you need each week so 3 separate downloads (plus 3 separate downloads of the Dark Mind patch, one for each week.)
Aight, here's the deal, I'm Bluecat's voice on this forum, don't like it? There's the door, since I'm technically given a compensation I work for Bluecat in this limited capacity. So while nobody is forcing me, I still am obligated because I said I'd do it without ever being asked. I like to help, so in that vein here's some additional info only for you, because one of you actually asked for something in a constructive form.
Here is the status:
Within this year, that is 2021, the merge will be out: the save functions work correctly with no issues, character info is being disregarded for a faster release, and Bluecat is at the very least confident that Late can complete the rest of the work load within the year. Though for obvious reasons, he does not want to be more specific in case running up against new issues, or missing deadlines.
However, I doubt this will make anyone happy, and simply encourage everyone to yell about how "You said it was soon last time and blah blah blah!". Save your breath, I know everything you people will say because its the same regurgitation. On the other hand, Smartmint this is exactly what you asked me to find out, so I hope it sates you for a little bit longer at the very least. Your request was actually reasonable and I moved to try and fulfill it to the best of my capabilities.
There is a very strong positive upswing about everything, and the malaise of the endless merge seems to have abated, dev feelings on a matter and the tones in which they use to address them, are just as important as the information actually provided.
To those who are actually just trying to weather the storm with me and help on some level, thanks, it actually is appreciated and I do feel good knowing I'm not alone. With that, I'll give another question since the last one didn't go over well enough.
You get a teaching job as Raspo, how do you handle how things be goin on at this academy and which classes would you prefer to be teaching in. Would you be capable of being friendly with Matsu or see him as rivalry?
Aight, I'm still tired, laters and cheers bitches.
Stay Ecchi!
~Skummy Out
Here is the status:
Within this year, that is 2021, the merge will be out: the save functions work correctly with no issues, character info is being disregarded for a faster release, and Bluecat is at the very least confident that Late can complete the rest of the work load within the year. Though for obvious reasons, he does not want to be more specific in case running up against new issues, or missing deadlines.
However, I doubt this will make anyone happy, and simply encourage everyone to yell about how "You said it was soon last time and blah blah blah!". Save your breath, I know everything you people will say because its the same regurgitation. On the other hand, Smartmint this is exactly what you asked me to find out, so I hope it sates you for a little bit longer at the very least. Your request was actually reasonable and I moved to try and fulfill it to the best of my capabilities.
There is a very strong positive upswing about everything, and the malaise of the endless merge seems to have abated, dev feelings on a matter and the tones in which they use to address them, are just as important as the information actually provided.
To those who are actually just trying to weather the storm with me and help on some level, thanks, it actually is appreciated and I do feel good knowing I'm not alone. With that, I'll give another question since the last one didn't go over well enough.
You get a teaching job as Raspo, how do you handle how things be goin on at this academy and which classes would you prefer to be teaching in. Would you be capable of being friendly with Matsu or see him as rivalry?
Aight, I'm still tired, laters and cheers bitches.
Stay Ecchi!
~Skummy Out
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Worst part is, they were always available for everyone, until the point where the merge just didn't happen when it was supposed to, and now the past year they've been paywalled when there hasn't been a single update
Smarmint
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Sounds good, thanks. I appreciate the status update.
I honestly don't understand why people care about what others do with their money. You don't think the game should be supported? Great, you have your reasons, don't support it. (My reasons for not supporting it are I need my money for other things, and I also don't like the lack of receivable progress).
If other people want to support it, it's their money. They have all the information available to them. What's happening now, how long it's been since an update, etc. It's not hard to discover that. If they don't want to take the few minutes it takes to find that info out, that's their decision too.
While I don't support the game, I haven't given up on the idea that eventually there will be more to come. To that end, I very much appreciate the people who do still support it (though I also understand everyone who stopped doing so) because I feel like their continued support will make it more likely a new update will happen eventually.
Bottom line? Everyone should be free to do what they want with their money.
If other people want to support it, it's their money. They have all the information available to them. What's happening now, how long it's been since an update, etc. It's not hard to discover that. If they don't want to take the few minutes it takes to find that info out, that's their decision too.
While I don't support the game, I haven't given up on the idea that eventually there will be more to come. To that end, I very much appreciate the people who do still support it (though I also understand everyone who stopped doing so) because I feel like their continued support will make it more likely a new update will happen eventually.
Bottom line? Everyone should be free to do what they want with their money.
That's a pleasant surprise. My rough estimate was mid 2022 based on the information shared in this thread, although that was including the character profiles. Will we need to start fresh when the profiles are eventually added or will they get slipped into a later release without breaking saves (in theory)?
im cool with waiting if the word thats given is kept but i got to ask is the next month after ganna take this long? no real problem if so this games is prolly the best out there to me at least.
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Blue always does his best to deliver a first-rate product in the most reasonable time possible. This merge is taking so long because there's a LOT of work to be done, basically re-coding the entire game if I remember correctly. I've played ES since before Week One was even complete, so I've seen his usual update schedule. I very highly doubt that the updates following this will take anywhere near as long as this one has: the sheer amount of labor needed to do this was astronomical. Just be patient a bit longer, eh? Knowing Blue, it'll be worth it.
Sort of in the sense that it will probably be released 2 days at a time on a monthly basis. Basically Bluecat started releasing individual days. As the team grew and he got more experienced they switched up to 2 day releases, and later each 2 day release was encompassed in a larger week download so people could just wait until the whole week was out to download once. Unfortunately a bunch of the features Bluecat wanted in the game were super buggy and tended to break inter-week saving. To fix this it was decided to do a "merge" that would roll together all available content while also adjusting the code to handle the wanted features. Patrons actually got to vote on when the merge would happen and they chose Month 1. The job was bigger than expected and Latecomer got sick during the pandemic which put things on hold for a while. Once this merge is done things should go back to the old 2 days each month release schedule. Especially since Blue has already been working on renders for the next few releases which will then just need to be coded. There's another big merge later (I think when Month 6 is done) but unless new bugs pop up that will just be squeezing all available content into one download.
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They should be, hopefully speaking, patched in with no breaking issues later on a few updates from now. However to see all the entries you would have to go back and replay the game. I am unsure if it would need to be restarted anyways, as if it needs to have begun from the very start to function at all, as I am not a coder :3
As for how long should the next update be after merge? The next month afterwards.
How will the next merging go for month 2? Smoothly, as is evidenced by how the following weeks after week 1 were nothing to write home about in any way and were simply just folded into regular updates.
Answering some other things that came up as my computer was restarting, yes I will affirm my ass does get a bit more emotional than it ought to be, though I do make attempts to be as professional as I can. Just sometimes yall rub me the wrong way. I have to write several drafts sometimes just because I need to control my amount of annoyance or if I'm coming off as too defensive. Sorry for that, but I'm a mumbling something incoherent and we have our flaws, I still do try to deliver what I promise, and I believe I've done so for now to help us cool our jets a bit better.
I think we can put a lot of arguments to bed at this point and refocus on the fact that we have an estimation of release, and while its not the most laser focused, its not being dishonest with trying to give an arbitrary date. Its just a promise that within the next three months we will finally see the release of a completed Month 1. I think that's a reasonable assertion and can satisfy enough people.
Now can people please play along with my question game? I think about these things just to keep us occupied with something, that isn't our thoughts. Lets be honest, none of us can be left alone with our thoughts, we've all heard them.
You get a teaching job as Raspo, how do you handle how things be goin on at this academy and which classes would you prefer to be teaching in. Would you be capable of being friendly with Matsu or see him as rivalry?
Okay, back to lurking, I'll come back if enough shit catches on fire again.
Stay Playful, Stay Ecchi!
~Skummy Out
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apologies for the mis-spelling of your name, it wasn't intentional, and is now edited and corrected
I don't think Matsu would let us be friendly with him on anything but the surface if we had any intention of sexual activities with any of the girls. He pretty clearly wants them all to himself. At least for the males on the forum. The females might have more luck, as that doesn't seem to bother him. Given the student body, I doubt I'd be able to not have an interest in at least some of the girls, so I'd probably not be able to be friends with him.
As to the teaching part, I'd take the job of education pretty seriously. I like teaching a lot.
Apologies for coming on so strong, that's not nice considering it was an honest mistake, thank you for corrections
I've since removed my tangent on the matter as well