VN Ren'Py Element-174 [v0.24] [Knotty Games]

Kadajko · Aug 26, 2023

crabsinthekitchen said:
you can avoid Penny's scene if you ignore her on the first week. don't help her find the library, don't help her deal with the jocks or Caleb, don't go shopping with her and she won't approach you

and my question would be more like "why hang out with people you don't like?"

Yes you are right, if you avoid interacting with Penny every single time she doesn't give you a handjob, but you need to make sure to not interreact with her even one single time, otherwise she gives you a handjob. That actually made me find a route that is possible without sexual act content, you just need to see a lot of girls naked. Malia, Sarah and Rachel, if you get on their triple route you can deny them all, unlike the other girls that give no choice. Thx, I finally did it!

crabsinthekitchen said:
*looks in Chloe, Jenna, Malia, Rachel and Sarah*

Never got on Jenna route but you are definitely wrong about Chloe, she has forced sexual stuff without a choice to decline.

Janglin' Jack · Aug 26, 2023

All right...I absolutely adore this game...so what I'm about to say here is meant in the spirit of constructive criticism (even if it doesn't sound like it). Not sure if the Dev reads these boards or not, otherwise I'd tag them directly. But here goes:

[POSSIBLE SPOILERS OBSCURED]

1. My favorite paths are the Chloe and Madison paths. Because of that, I started out on this new update with my Maddie path, save first.

2.

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In closing, I still really like the game...but I won't lie, these items have kinda damaged my thoughts about Maddie and her path. Time to do Chloe's, now -- which I still have high hopes for!

JJ

Mark11779 · Aug 27, 2023

Code:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/day15.rpy", line 14026, in <module>
NameError: name 'flag_zoey_late_decline' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "day15.rpyc", line 17434, in script call
  File "day15.rpyc", line 14026, in script
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/day15.rpy", line 14026, in <module>
NameError: name 'flag_zoey_late_decline' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
Element-174 0.23c
Sun Aug 27 09:36:34 2023

Mark11779 · Aug 27, 2023

Code:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/day15.rpy", line 14236, in <module>
NameError: name 'rejected_jenna' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "day15.rpyc", line 17434, in script call
  File "day15.rpyc", line 14232, in script
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/day15.rpy", line 14236, in <module>
NameError: name 'rejected_jenna' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
Element-174 0.23c
Sun Aug 27 09:38:55 2023

Mark11779 · Aug 27, 2023

Code:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/day15.rpy", line 13583, in <module>
NameError: name 'flag_zoey_late_decline' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "day15.rpyc", line 17434, in script call
  File "day15.rpyc", line 13583, in script
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\NY_ME\Downloads\Element174-0.23c-pc\Element174-0.23c-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/day15.rpy", line 13583, in <module>
NameError: name 'flag_zoey_late_decline' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.1.23060707
Element-174 0.23c
Sun Aug 27 09:46:13 2023

BGRW2020 · Aug 29, 2023

The real issue here is what are the two endings - order = ????, Chaos = ????
without knowing what their differences are you have no way of knowing where your going in this story
obviously we want Zoey to succeed in her mission, but does she represent order or chaos

Blaq Mask · Aug 29, 2023

Janglin' Jack said:
All right...I absolutely adore this game...so what I'm about to say here is meant in the spirit of constructive criticism (even if it doesn't sound like it). Not sure if the Dev reads these boards or not, otherwise I'd tag them directly. But here goes:

[POSSIBLE SPOILERS OBSCURED]

1. My favorite paths are the Chloe and Madison paths. Because of that, I started out on this new update with my Maddie path, save first.

2.

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In closing, I still really like the game...but I won't lie, these items have kinda damaged my thoughts about Maddie and her path. Time to do Chloe's, now -- which I still have high hopes for!

JJ

Re: no. 2

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Anyway, to the dev: Oh you fucker

I'm not mad but I'm kinda mad.

crabsinthekitchen · Aug 30, 2023

Blaq Mask said:
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Anyway, to the dev: Oh you fucker I'm not mad but I'm kinda mad.

Another big hint is "random" flashing words during her scenes which make sense now

NastyKilla · Sep 6, 2023

Getting this error when I do the Ash meeting in the hotel room on Day 16 (also made here shapeshift into Jules for the scene).

If I choose ignore here the story continues but on a totally different path than what I have currently chosen. It sends me to Isabelle showing up Day 16 afternoon, even though during this path I haven't even met Isabella.

KnottyGames · Sep 6, 2023

Sylaann said:
Hi guys I saw on the walkthrough that there was a chaos route and an order route for every char, is chaos bad and order good? Or is it more like making someone rigid a bit less rigid and someone crazy a bit more normal?

The "Chaos" and "Order" routes were the closest terms I could settle on to describe each week 4. It's still up in the air, but Order means an ending which results in a "normal," or healthy timeline in which no pandemic occurs and nothing else strange happens. Chaos will usually stray further away from that concept. However, crazy stuff will be happening in both routes usually. There's no "good" or "bad" in regards to endings or morality, but some will lean heavily into one or the other. Chaos and Order just seemed to be the only terms to broadly categorize each of the planned 32 (

) week 4s. These weeks will be shorter, but more narratively focused than previous weeks, because I'm not that crazy.

KnottyGames · Sep 6, 2023

NastyKilla said:
Getting this error when I do the Ash meeting in the hotel room on Day 16 (also made here shapeshift into Jules for the scene).

It'll be patched for the next update. Unfortunately, I don't know of a workaround until then.

crabsinthekitchen · Sep 7, 2023

KnottyGames said:
It'll be patched for the next update. Unfortunately, I don't know of a workaround until then.

this should work. also, is Ash/Sarah scene supposed to be only when you tell Sarah to be normal?

KnottyGames · Sep 7, 2023

crabsinthekitchen said:
this should work. also, is Ash/Sarah scene supposed to be only when you tell Sarah to be normal?

Oof. It looks like that script is littered with instances where the variable should be "flag_sarah_element" instead of "flag_sarah_normal." The normal flag should only be referenced after making that choice. That'll also be fixed for the official update.

Sylaann · Sep 7, 2023

KnottyGames said:
The "Chaos" and "Order" routes were the closest terms I could settle on to describe each week 4. It's still up in the air, but Order means an ending which results in a "normal," or healthy timeline in which no pandemic occurs and nothing else strange happens. Chaos will usually stray further away from that concept. However, crazy stuff will be happening in both routes usually. There's no "good" or "bad" in regards to endings or morality, but some will lean heavily into one or the other. Chaos and Order just seemed to be the only terms to broadly categorize each of the planned 32 () week 4s. These weeks will be shorter, but more narratively focused than previous weeks, because I'm not that crazy.

I'm trying to pursue 4 romances at the same time and not all are conected so i can't really go order for everyone. Andsome people you can romance at the same time can have weird relation (1 giving order to the other but taking chaos in return from this same person ^^).
To be fair, fuck thefuture as long as I live a good life and the girl i'm with live a good life. If they can't know what the future look like it doesn't rally matter, right ?

NastyKilla · Sep 8, 2023

Another issue I am getting on Ash's path (not sure if it's only on Ash path or it's all paths). Day 12 Afternoon. If I choose to go with Emma for the scene in the classroom (any options after going to classroom it happens, sex or no sex and yes or no to the agents) the game goes straight back to the main menu. Doesn't continue to Day 12 Evening or anything else, no errors pop up, just straight back to main menu.

Here is the save in case you need it to work out the issue.

crabsinthekitchen · Sep 8, 2023

NastyKilla said:
Another issue I am getting on Ash's path (not sure if it's only on Ash path or it's all paths). Day 12 Afternoon. If I choose to go with Emma for the scene in the classroom (any options after going to classroom it happens, sex or no sex and yes or no to the agents) the game goes straight back to the main menu. Doesn't continue to Day 12 Evening or anything else, no errors pop up, just straight back to main menu.

Here is the save in case you need it to work out the issue.

fuck, not these guys again. I'll see how we can fix that

a little backstory: originally it was possible to trigger Emma's classroom scene twice. after fixing that, the guys that ask if you know her or not started appearing twice. and apparently now after fixing that if you meet them after Emma's scene it just ends the game. as if I need another reason to hate DPA

NastyKilla · Sep 8, 2023

crabsinthekitchen said:
fuck, not these guys again. I'll see how we can fix that

a little backstory: originally it was possible to trigger Emma's classroom scene twice. after fixing that, the guys that ask if you know her or not started appearing twice. and apparently now after fixing that if you meet them after Emma's scene it just ends the game. as if I need another reason to hate DPA

Just did another scene with Emma and the DPA guys. This time it was Emma in the closet Day 11. This time it worked fine. So maybe the problem is just with the classroom/DPA combo, or DPA on day 12. Just letting you know so you can try to pinpoint where the problem is.

crabsinthekitchen · Sep 8, 2023

NastyKilla said:
Just did another scene with Emma and the DPA guys. This time it was Emma in the closet Day 11. This time it worked fine. So maybe the problem is just with the classroom/DPA combo, or DPA on day 12. Just letting you know so you can try to pinpoint where the problem is.

I know where it is. Just trying to figure out how to make it work the way it should without fucking up saves too much or introducing more bugs like rolling back to the day 9 stranger attack after that scene

qwertyuiop990! · Sep 8, 2023

Damn, I nearly gave up on this game during the first few days, now I'm finding the story and characters so interesting I'm doing multiple playthroughs to see the different routes.

Nice work dev, I'm looking forward to how this progresses.

WhiteWolf93 · Sep 8, 2023

I can't for the life of me understand how to get the sixth Rachel memory. It doesn't seem to be on the flowchart, I tried her route alone, with Zoey, with Katy, with both, and I just never see it anywhere.

Could someone give me a little help?

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