VN Ren'Py Element-174 [v0.24] [Knotty Games]

[NastyKilla]

I can't for the life of me understand how to get the sixth Rachel memory. It doesn't seem to be on the flowchart, I tried her route alone, with Zoey, with Katy, with both, and I just never see it anywhere.

Could someone give me a little help?

I got that one while following Trish's story line (was actually on Caroline's Order path which is have Trish active not Holmes), happens late in the available days (15 i think). You HAVE to pick the vial up during the Florist/Trish fight. I am pretty sure that I didn't have Rachel's path active at that time either.

 

[NastyKilla]

crabsinthekitchen Not sure if you're the one that makes the PDF walkthrough that comes with the game or not, but since your tag says E-174 walkthrough going to let you know.

On the Katy section of the PDF under notes, the notes are for Jenna not Katy.

 

[WhiteWolf93]

I got that one while following Trish's story line (was actually on Caroline's Order path which is have Trish active not Holmes), happens late in the available days (15 i think). You HAVE to pick the vial up during the Florist/Trish fight. I am pretty sure that I didn't have Rachel's path active at that time either.

Thank you, I finally got it!

 

[qwertyuiop990!]

I'm being greedy now and trying to work out my ideal playthrough, with my preferred characters, plus any extras possible.
First time, without reading walkthrough I got Zoey, Penny, Madison, Sarah & Jenna, which so far I'm quite ok with.

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to get all these in one game?
If not what's the best options out there?
They're all sort of compatible, but can I get enough points for each of them?

Zoey + Penny - these two, not negotiable, both need 6pts end of week 2

I'd like all these if possible, no real preferences if I have to lose one of them
Madison - Eavesdrop on Day 5, as well as have 2+ points by the end of Week 1
Trish - 3+ points by the end of Week 1 BUT: All of Trish’s subroutes become exclusive on Day 16
Chloe - Chloe on Day 7, as well as have 3+ points by the end of Week 1

Anyone else?


Now lets see how far I can get ....
attempt 1:
Zoey, Madison, Trish, Chloe + Holmes & Malia .... no Penny

 

[NastyKilla]

I'm being greedy now and trying to work out my ideal playthrough, with my preferred characters, plus any extras possible.
First time, without reading walkthrough I got Zoey, Penny, Madison, Sarah & Jenna, which so far I'm quite ok with.

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to get all these in one game?
If not what's the best options out there?
They're all sort of compatible, but can I get enough points for each of them?

Zoey + Penny - these two, not negotiable, both need 6pts end of week 2

I'd like all these if possible, no real preferences if I have to lose one of them
Madison - Eavesdrop on Day 5, as well as have 2+ points by the end of Week 1
Trish - 3+ points by the end of Week 1 BUT: All of Trish’s subroutes become exclusive on Day 16
Chloe - Chloe on Day 7, as well as have 3+ points by the end of Week 1

Anyone else?


Now lets see how far I can get ....
attempt 1:
Zoey, Madison, Trish, Chloe + Holmes & Malia .... no Penny

I know that you can't have Holmes and Trish on same playthrough.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

I know that you can't have Holmes and Trish on same playthrough.

also Holmes/Madison and Malia/Chloe. There's also a screen with compatible routes for each character in the game

 

[NastyKilla]

also Holmes/Madison and Malia/Chloe. There's also a screen with compatible routes for each character in the game

Yeah, I look at it alot in-game as it is very helpful when making some decisions. My post was just off the top of my head (as I had just recently done a Caroline playthrough in which Trish and Holmes feature heavily depending on which path you play).

 

[KnightMarco]

crabsinthekitchen Not sure if you're the one that makes the PDF walkthrough that comes with the game or not, but since your tag says E-174 walkthrough going to let you know.

On the Katy section of the PDF under notes, the notes are for Jenna not Katy.
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also, crabsinthekitchen KnottyGames on zoey section the notes is for rachel

 

[BurgRoyce]

Sorry if that has been asked before...
Relationships will keep colliding until you are left with one girl?

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Sorry if that has been asked before...
Relationships will keep colliding until you are left with one girl?

Yes. With some you will have to choose later than with others but I expect to have only one or two (maybe 3 but that seems like it will be hard) left before week 3 is over. Knotty will probably correct me if I'm wrong

 

[Jemet]

how do i change the default name for the gallery?

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

how do i change the default name for the gallery?

when you open the gallery, there's a settings button at the top, you can change the name there

 

[Daedalus43]

The "Chaos" and "Order" routes were the closest terms I could settle on to describe each week 4.

so the best you get is my attempt that's already in the game

There's an error, or maybe oversight regarding Holmes' subroutes/endings. According to the WT: "All of Holmes’s subroutes become exclusive on Day 16. Caroline’s conflicts earlier, but Malia and Penny can be played until then."
However, on Day 6, MC must take Malia's call to meet up on Day 7 and get mandatory fast food on Day 8. But if you don't help Penny, you don't get her phone #, meaning she can't text MC for further dates and never reaches the required 6 points.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

There's an error, or maybe oversight regarding Holmes' subroutes/endings. According to the WT: "All of Holmes’s subroutes become exclusive on Day 16. Caroline’s conflicts earlier, but Malia and Penny can be played until then."
However, on Day 6, MC must take Malia's call to meet up on Day 7 and get mandatory fast food on Day 8. But if you don't help Penny, you don't get her phone #, meaning she can't text MC for further dates and never reaches the required 6 points.

you don't have to take Malia's call if you tell Holmes about Jules on day 5. if Jules is not inviting you to her place on day 7, Malia will text you (at least it used to work that way). but it is a pain with phones on the first two weeks so oversights could happen. Penny used to text you on day 7 without having your phone number. although that could be explained later instead of being removed

 

[Daedalus43]

you don't have to take Malia's call if you tell Holmes about Jules on day 5. if Jules is not inviting you to her place on day 7, Malia will text you (at least it used to work that way). but it is a pain with phones on the first two weeks so oversights could happen. Penny used to text you on day 7 without having your phone number. although that could be explained later instead of being removed

Maybe. Currently, if taking Malia's call, the MC will feel pocket "phantom vibrations" on Day 7. But thanks for the tip, I never got the 2 advancing together before.

 

[Kylemnb]

So no cheating tag and no harem tag but looks like a lot of Li's, Is this a game where there's just no consequences for sleeping with numerous people?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

So no cheating tag and no harem tag but looks like a lot of Li's, Is this a game where there's just no consequences for sleeping with numerous people?

A scene with one LI will be mutually exclusive with a different scene with a different LI. (Basically, things happen at the same time, and the MC can't be in two places at once.) This rotates around. Let's say Girl 1 and Girl 6 each have scenes at the same time that are mutually exclusive; then, later, Girl 1 and Girl 4 have a mutually exclusive scene instead; and so on. This happens each day, although as you progress, LIs will be eliminated during a single playthrough when the MC has spent too little time with them overall. In the end, a single playthrough will have a single LI ending.

So you will need to do multiple playthroughs to see everything. There are some LIs that, for awhile, are not in opposing events, so you can somewhat pursue them both at the same time. But at a certain point, one of them will have to be chosen over the other. I've basically done PTs where the MC goes through the game this way — two LIs at a time with events that don't conflict — until it becomes clear a choice must be made. Then the PT splits into Girl 3 Ending and Girl 7 Ending (or whatever).

 

[SomeGuyWithNoImagination]

So no cheating tag and no harem tag but looks like a lot of Li's, Is this a game where there's just no consequences for sleeping with numerous people?

The way the story branches is almost explosive in this game. You can't sleep with (or necessarily even meet) everyone in a single save. I think 3 or 4 are the maximum number of people you'll be sleeping with in a single save.

It's not a harem game, more like throuples (though I don't think there are any threesome scenes as of yet?). As for cheating, I don't know for sure. I personally haven't played out every path in detail, so it's possible that the tag should be added, but it's more likely that it also doesn't apply (yet?).

Keep in mind that F95 tags aren't 100% reliable. Sometimes they'll be missing, occasionally they aren't applicable but are listed anyway. Shit happens.

My suggestion is to give the game somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes to see if you are interested. Also, you might want to look at the list of characters. If there's one you are interested in but didn't see on your playthrough, go into the walkthrough and find what path you need to follow to see her.

A scene with one LI will be mutually exclusive with a different scene with a different LI. (Basically, things happen at the same time, and the MC can't be in two places at once.) This rotates around. Let's say Girl 1 and Girl 6 each have scenes at the same time that are mutually exclusive; then, later, Girl 1 and Girl 4 have a mutually exclusive scene instead; and so on. This happens each day, although as you progress, LIs will be eliminated during a single playthrough when the MC has spent too little time with them overall. In the end, a single playthrough will have a single LI ending.

So you will need to do multiple playthroughs to see everything. There are some LIs that, for awhile, are not in opposing events, so you can somewhat pursue them both at the same time. But at a certain point, one of them will have to be chosen over the other. I've basically done PTs where the MC goes through the game this way — two LIs at a time with events that don't conflict — until it becomes clear a choice must be made. Then the PT splits into Girl 3 Ending and Girl 7 Ending (or whatever).

Unless Knotty has said otherwise, I don't think every ending will be a single girl. I think there are some throuple paths, but I'm also not him.

 

[Avaron1974]

So no cheating tag and no harem tag but looks like a lot of Li's, Is this a game where there's just no consequences for sleeping with numerous people?

It's literally impossible to get with everyone in a single playthrough, you won't even meet all of them.

It's set up in a way that the girls are in groups of about 3 or 4 and while it is possible to sleep with those inside the grouping you won't get an ending with them all. You'll probably find that 2 or more want to meet up at the same time and you'll end up having to choose.

As of yet there are no consequences but we also know that endings are going to be single girl only or maybe a couple of throuples if dev decides on that. So chances are consequences are coming.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

The way the story branches is almost explosive in this game. You can't sleep with (or necessarily even meet) everyone in a single save. I think 3 or 4 are the maximum number of people you'll be sleeping with in a single save.

It's not a harem game, more like throuples (though I don't think there are any threesome scenes as of yet?). As for cheating, I don't know for sure. I personally haven't played out every path in detail, so it's possible that the tag should be added, but it's more likely that it also doesn't apply (yet?).

Keep in mind that F95 tags aren't 100% reliable. Sometimes they'll be missing, occasionally they aren't applicable but are listed anyway. Shit happens.

My suggestion is to give the game somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes to see if you are interested. Also, you might want to look at the list of characters. If there's one you are interested in but didn't see on your playthrough, go into the walkthrough and find what path you need to follow to see her.


Unless Knotty has said otherwise, I don't think every ending will be a single girl. I think there are some throuple paths, but I'm also not him.

Unless he's said otherwise outside of F95Zone (totally possible, but in that case I wouldn't know), it absolutely still sounds like generally only one girl at the end of a single playthrough:

In order to see every possible ending (and all preceding content), there will be need to be 16 full playthroughs. You are right that eventually all routes will be narrowed down to 1 by the start of week 3. However, the choices you make up to that point still have an effect on that main route (including the choices you made with other girls). Which leads us to..."

Yeah and even keeping clusters of 2-3 girls open creates a lot of work for me with additional lines to code and variations on rendering. And ultimately it doesn't make sense since at the end of week 3, the MC has to choose which girl he wants to start week 4 with (and thus end the game with). Originally there was going to only be 1 final week per girl, but given that week 4 is shorter (since it only focuses on one girl), I'm leaning towards that "true route" plus an additional one. Which week 4 you enter is based on a combo of which other girls you're involved with, as well as specific choices regarding that girl.

It does sound like there might be a "special" final week (maybe with more than one girl?), but I don't know how he's planning that out. The latest here I have been able to find about it is that 2021 post. A lot can change in 2 years, so maybe he's rethought things on Patreon or whatever.