VN Ren'Py Elite Garden [Ep.4] [A&K Studio]

[Avaron1974]

It's always a bad sign if you say another man is a "good friend". Just like in another game where the dev from the beginning said the other guy is a good friend, but that game was all NTR from the beginning when the good friend fucked the MC's sister. From there, when the players yelled at the dev, he decided to make the game NTR free. There is no good friend in these games, it's always just shit that makes the game a living hell for NTR haters.

I've seen people complain about NTR, some of which I can understand.

I've seen one person complain about a game because it "felt" like it could have NTR even though it didn't.

Now i've seen you, complaining about a game because it has a friend in it.

That's just hilarious.

I can't even facepalm because that doesn't quite measure up to how dumb that post is. I feel that if your post was a person it would have dyed blue hair and be stood outside of a college shouting "reeeeeee" into the wind.

 

[Xeros30]

this game is already dead. that was the shortest update i ever played.

 

[FuhQ314]

it's like irl... I love my mom and sister, but I don't wanna fuck either of them

At least make it optional. Don't wanna fuck your sister, daughter or whoever else = then don't choose to groom or seduce them and instead close their path or go the friendship route. Me and my sister already fucked and she even got the creampie she wanted (yolo= I'll try almost anything once just to see if I like it or not), to me I don't see why all the outrage about it when it's irl (nvm fictional, that's just a whole other level of stupid as fuck to me). Though I did probably ruin myself, since now all other pussy is 2nd best (at least so far). Mom? Eh gonna pass on that, not really attracted to fat ladies, one of those was enough while drunk and can't imagine doing that sober without the beer goggles.

 

[Lord Soth]

Never enough Kiara...she's just stunning.

 

[gtpman]

I found some potential bugs with easy fixes and I'm unsure where to report them, so I'm posting them here.

Bug #1: There are some variables where I believe you meant `+=` instead of `=+`. The `+` symbol has no effect when used this way, essentially setting the variable's value to the target value.

For example, I found the line `$team_points = +3` at script.rpy line 6048.

An easy fix would be a regex replace of `=\s*\+(\d+)` with `+= $1`.
This seems to have worked for me.

Bug #2: I found the line `$catherine_points + 3` at script.rpy line 11130. I think an equals sign is missing, as the current statement does nothing. I ran a regex scan for similar issues and found none. (regex used: `\$\s*([\w_]+)\s*\+\s*(\d+)`)

Hope this helps.

 

[FuhQ314]

*Looks to see if the "Incest" tag is up or elsewhere*

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*checks*

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"hmm, maybe in the OP"

*Checks the OP*

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*clicks*

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*reads the tags*


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Damn, looks like you hit a "Not an Incest game" dead end. Best look elsewhere.


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Exactly my point, not an incest AVN = might as well have the MC as the only child and with dead or absent parents instead of wasting models by making them sisters. I see some are/will be complaining about NTR after they get fucked by someone else even though they are not LI's (so technically not NTR) so to some it's same vibe (incest pareidolia I guess) even without the incest.

 

[Lathe29]

It did feel like a bit of a setup episode with the first full sex scene thrown in, it's setup potential conflict between Mina and Meera (Mina seemed rather worried about Meera finding MC in her apartment), the future party likely the set piece of the next episode or mainly the one after, the football captain suddenly appearing to ghost the cheerleading captain (we don't actually see him after the cheerleader asks us to speak to him so it might be more serious but I'm assuming ghosting for now) could that be because of her involvement with Fred?. MC's mom getting unwanted romantic attention from an as yet unknown person. The girls attempting to set up Fred despite his (currently casual) relationship with their captain, while not resolving anything from previous episodes, we still don't know for sure whether it was Fred's girlfriend who was throwing up at the end of ep 3, and if it was why? Was it pregnancy, hangover or something else?

Olivia is the captain and Fred isn't fooling around with her, that's Eve.

I've seen people complain about NTR, some of which I can understand.

I've seen one person complain about a game because it "felt" like it could have NTR even though it didn't.

Now i've seen you, complaining about a game because it has a friend in it.

That's just hilarious.

I can't even facepalm because that doesn't quite measure up to how dumb that post is. I feel that if your post was a person it would have dyed blue hair and be stood outside of a college shouting "reeeeeee" into the wind.

This forum has the capacity for some of the dumbest comments, people get so mad over things they think might happen when there's zero signs that it will. Also LI's aren't allowed contact with any other male character (past or present) otherwise the MC is a cuck.

 

[FuhQ314]

Your life ain't a porn story either

I suppose it could be, all I have to do is film it as a series and drop it on Pornhub like everyone else (at least the ones that are 18+ anyway). But most like their privacy and the money from it isn't worth that (at least not to me).

 

[FuhQ314]

I've seen people complain about NTR, some of which I can understand.

I've seen one person complain about a game because it "felt" like it could have NTR even though it didn't.

Now i've seen you, complaining about a game because it has a friend in it.

That's just hilarious.

I can't even facepalm because that doesn't quite measure up to how dumb that post is. I feel that if your post was a person it would have dyed blue hair and be stood outside of a college shouting "reeeeeee" into the wind.

Well, I'm sure a small minority will complain about lack of gay scenes with that friend too. Some people will complain no matter what the dev does or doesn't do, it's just impossible to avoid that. As far as NTR it's why some devs only have the MC as the lone male in the entire AVN world they create, as unrealistic as that is, when they want to avoid triggering over 98% of potential NTR-sensitive types (the other 2% will still see it when it's not there no matter what). Hell on one of my SS subs many people were bitching about an LI getting spit-roasted by the MC and another dude from the dev's unrelated comic strip in a weekly render set even though it was 100% not canon to the AVN itself with the only thing in common was the Daz models used (rookie dev mistake at the time).

 

[Dessolos]

Exactly my point, not an incest AVN = might as well have the MC as the only child and with dead or absent parents instead of wasting models by making them sisters. I see some are/will be complaining about NTR after they get fucked by someone else even though they are not LI's (so technically not NTR) so to some it's same vibe (incest pareidolia I guess) even without the incest.

the way I see it is this dev is trying to be different and tell a story. Just because people like incest or treat every female as character that needs to be fucked in these games doesn't mean it should be that way in this game. I applaud the dev so far by not giving in and making them non romanceable. I'm probably in the miniority but I would honestly love it if more devs included characters that were not romanceable at all and just friends , or family just to tell a story / include some wholesome moments , etc etc.

 

[Nobuganda]

only criminal thing so far from just a few clicks in is the sister being the best looking one imo, but thx and good luck

 

[Dark Silence]

oh, yeah, that one! I remember quitting it last time after 10 minutes or so, because the MC gave me serious Serial Killer vibes.
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(I really hope, it's not a self insert)

but, it's summer and I'm bored, so lets try it again because, lets face it, nowadays there are way worse out there than serial killers! and those tags I can avoid.

Possibly a player self insert. I never got that vibe from him. Maybe there's something you'd like to tell all of us?

 

[FuhQ314]

the way I see it is this dev is trying to be different and tell a story. Just because people like incest or treat every female as character that needs to be fucked in these games doesn't mean it should be that way in this game. I applaud the dev so far by not giving in and making them non romanceable. I'm probably in the miniority but I would honestly love it if more devs included characters that were not romanceable at all and just friends , or family just to tell a story / include some wholesome moments , etc etc.

Eh I see these for what they mostly are: porno stories, which AVNs are synonomous for (a few have no sex tag but those usually don't do very well as far as subs). If I want wholesome I'll just watch PBS, Youtube, or Curiosity Stream or some Disney movie.

 

[Justaphase]

Way too short and almost none of my favourite girl Kiara but I still look forward to the future of this, as this game is in it's infancy but still has alot of potential IMO.

 

[Dessolos]

Eh I see these for what they mostly are: porno stories, which AVNs are synonomous for (a few have no sex tag but those usually don't do very well as far as subs). If I want wholesome I'll just watch PBS, Youtube, or Curiosity Stream or some Disney movie.

if that's how you see them fair enough. I don't really consider AVN meaning porn game tbh. For me a AVN simply just means Adult VN which can include nudity , sex ( which doesn't automatically make it porn in my eyes) or a range of other adult themes. For me it depends on the context and overall feel of the game if I consider it a porn game. So far I don't consider this a porn game at all , far from it.

 

[Dark Silence]

Never enough Kiara...she's just stunning.

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Yes, she is. But she's a pain in the fucking ass. No thank you.

 

[Dessolos]

Yes, she is. But she's a pain in the fucking ass. No thank you.

I'll deal with that burden for you she is worth it. Especially all the head pats she is going to get and I can't forget about the nose boop.

 

[Krytax123]

It did feel like a bit of a setup episode with the first full sex scene thrown in, it's setup potential conflict between Mina and Meera (Mina seemed rather worried about Meera finding MC in her apartment), the future party likely the set piece of the next episode or mainly the one after, the football captain suddenly appearing to ghost the cheerleading captain (we don't actually see him after the cheerleader asks us to speak to him so it might be more serious but I'm assuming ghosting for now) could that be because of her involvement with Fred?. MC's mom getting unwanted romantic attention from an as yet unknown person. The girls attempting to set up Fred despite his (currently casual) relationship with their captain, while not resolving anything from previous episodes, we still don't know for sure whether it was Fred's girlfriend who was throwing up at the end of ep 3, and if it was why? Was it pregnancy, hangover or something else?

Olivia (the cheerleader captain) and Fred's girl are fortunaly not the same (i want Olivia!) so i doubt any relation.

Im not entirely sure, is the MC's dad still alive? Could it be the dad who maybe is a rich guy and was on the phone with the dean too asking about the siblings? Dunno just some thoughts.

I think this game will also focus on the romantic relationships of the siblings, for example. The brother even already has a girlfriend. I understand why people who don't like NTR might be put off by this. This 'girlfriend' of the brother is already one less LI for the MC.

Fuck these people, really. I dislike NTR too but these guys demand from devs to create dumb and boring storys where the MC is the only guy existing. All other guys are morons, douchebags or gay. We have dumb harem games like that all over this site, play it if you want.

Having non-moronic other guys in the world, or family members (which you dont fuck for a change) increases the immersion of a story and makes it feel more grounded. Relationships feel better and more immersive too if they are in a world with other people reacting to it.

Nothing is more boring as these AVN's where every existing person is part of your little harem or a moron.

So yeah, fuck this entitled, insecure, bitchy attitude. Dont read the AVN if you think every render showing another guy or a non-Li are wasted. They can just go and read their boring storys for dumb people.

Exactly my point, not an incest AVN = might as well have the MC as the only child and with dead or absent parents instead of wasting models by making them sisters. I see some are/will be complaining about NTR after they get fucked by someone else even though they are not LI's (so technically not NTR) so to some it's same vibe (incest pareidolia I guess) even without the incest.

Who cares if non-LI's have a relationship or sexlife, the dev in this game is doing it perfectly so far. The brother has an acitve sexlife but its now shoved in our face, its in the background which is completly fine, we dont have to watch him fuck and he got the ugliest cheerleader

And yeah as stated above, nah fuck that. Its awesome that the mc has a normal family for once, not everyone has a entirely porn damaged brain.

Edit:

The update was unfortunaly waaaaaaaay too short and no lewd animations in the future is disappointing but on the bright side, the lewd scene was pretty good even without animation imo

 

[FuhQ314]

And yeah as stated above, nah fuck that. Its awesome that the mc has a normal family for once, not everyone has a entirely porn damaged brain.

eh my brain was fixed by porn, it's most of everyone else that needs theirs repaired by a good daughter/sister/mommy/auntie/cousin fucker. Or better still try it irl, they might like it.

 

[Milton749]

I don't understand, there is no shortage of incest (or harem) games, why is there always this discussion in games that aren't?