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I did buy it on Steam, and playing it on Steam. When I buy a "finished" game, not one on EA, I expect my work to not be completely lost mid-playthrough. I am not sure having an attitude about it is going to help here.

Also, you can add those switches in Steam as well, if you know anything about Steam.
You might want to pull the stick out, and/or stop acting like your few measly dollars are worth more than anyone else's.

Major game companies have upgraded their engine part way through development, or after release and had very significant issues at times, including save game problems.

If something this minor causes such a piss-poor attitude from you, you must have hell dealing with your day to day life.

Loosen up before you pucker your backside so much you rip the bottom out of your chair.
 

Maccabbee

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You might want to pull the stick out, and/or stop acting like your few measly dollars are worth more than anyone else's.

Major game companies have upgraded their engine part way through development, or after release and had very significant issues at times, including save game problems.

If something this minor causes such a piss-poor attitude from you, you must have hell dealing with your day to day life.

Loosen up before you pucker your backside so much you rip the bottom out of your chair.
Whoah, hold on there. Who the fuck are you, and what the fuck are you talking about? Go fuck yourself, you're whiteknighting completely unnecessarily. I didn't shit on the game, I had a valid complaint that I expressed directly to a dev. This rollout was a fucking mess, and obviously was not planned or tested sufficiently. Are you a member of that team? If not, fuck off. Hell, if you are, fuck off.

Some douche on here complains, then yeah, they've got no skin in the game. The dev complains that the game undersold on Steam, and he's losing money and still working on it? That's sad, but it's their choice. Nobody had a gun to their head forcing them to do it. I don't think I'm too out of line saying that making me lose 12 hours of my playthrough for a release that I didn't ask for, and not for an early access game, is frustrating.

I didn't call names, I didn't curse anyone out. I did say, when confronted in a slightly harsh way, that while I understand their frustration, they should understand that of paying customers, with having unusable saves, crashes, and more bugs than the original release.

I was done, said my piece, and that was that. Now you have something to say to me? What's your fucking justification, huh? Asshole.
 

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Right. Typical response. Stupid because it does not tailor to what you wanted, despite me explicitly saying that the said fight will be shown and spoken about during the expansion.

Step 1. Now go rate the game 1 star.
Step 2. Find another to play and ignore this.
Step 3. Problem solved.

Or feel free to insult, rage at me, whatever. I'm out. I came here momentarily back to offer support for what was going on, but this is precisely why I walked away from here. This place is ridiculous.

No further replies or support given from me after this. Further updates leaked or not, bugs or not, decide to give a hand and get spat at by pirates. Figures.

You'd think I've learned my lesson after 2 years of online harassment, stalking, review bombarding and people here trying to dox me. :LUL: Fuck me I guess.


For anyone capable of being civilized and not being entitled little prick, feel free to write me a message. I'll give you invite to discord, and you will have support you need.


Enough chances given to this place. This time, permanently out.
 

indio68

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No, this is not Book 2. YET.

What this is, is continuation, aka after events of Chapter 5 from Book 1. Wheel of Fate acts as a bridge between Book 1 and 2, aka the events that lead into Book 2.

This isn't a side story, it is expansion to initial story and where it ended. When that armored cunt pops about. This is set six months after that cliffhanger, and you basically continue from there.

Just that there is a lot more to it. You will also at some point through Wheel of Fate, witness the combat scene that happened and events after that when Eliot vanished after that fight.

It all ties into here. So, once again, this isn't a filler, this isn't a side story or rework. This is expansion. Wheel of Fate is a bridge between Book 1 end, and Book 2 start. You're just crusading right now till Book 2 will be produced.

So yes, this is continuation. With every new act, you'll see how things start to come together and more is revealed.


As for save files, it is highly likely they will not work given the size and scope of the update. But... read the patch notes. Look for Chapters Select in main menu, jump wherever you were, or if you already finished Book 1, then choose DLC option. It will allow you to name the character to whatever name you were using, and you can continue.

Nothing lost.
thank you very much..
 

Wendy69

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You created the story,,, and all of a sudden you drop off everything and make an U turn change ,,,, What did you expect?...It comes back to you .:). Mr Dev.
 
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Pinsel3

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i dont get that game, nice start and all with bios, some choises, an then .... they vanished all .The blond girl, second in the bios, only see once then nothing. Even the shadow girl gets more, but she is not in the sheets and i liked her a lot. But what is more, Lyra who have give her self to MC as her chosen one just vanishd early and that ist it, never see her again. And he dont give a fuck about that. And now we play a what, point and klick game? sanbox? tactical strategy game?

edit: i see this is some what a filler for what comes next. we have to klick trough, but it wont chance the outcome, regardles what we chose
 
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Jakeace

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Well it looks like part 2 is totaly a new set of adventure based on what has been released. I was thinking the elf girl was going to join but looks her & the queen are not going to play any main part of the story.
The additional kingdoom or tribe menstion on the war table are going to be key part of the second part.I have been following this game for a while and I will miss the Queen & the Elf girl.
 
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Ragnar

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You can let the start of the dlc playing on your pc while you go take a dump. Can't skip, can't click to make it go faster :WaitWhat:
 
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BGRW2020

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That means someone already had a chance to do over 15 playthroughs to know everything. That's not the point, go with what you FEEL is right. Based on your self judgment for Wheel of Fate.

There is no walkthrough that will help here. It all depends on how you want it.

No. BUT... one of my proofreaders, has extreme obsession with Lyria. So, while she isn't present in Wheel of Fate, there WILL be a letter from here though! Its been a while, and she wants to stay in touch!

BUT... there is another Elf in DLC. No spoilers though!
since there are very few choices what difference would 15 playthroughs do - You removed the woman the MC loves and force us to have sex with others we don't want any relations for - I started a new playthrough and am not getting any choices - did you remove them
 

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Is there a way to ignore all the new girls and just stay with Lyria?
No Lyria was originally supposed to be written off after the character
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but pressure from the fans made Mystic write her back into the story but he then decided to just cut her from the story like he originally intended despite the pressure so I don't see her being in the story from now on.
 
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No Lyria was originally supposed to be written off after the character
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but pressure from the fans made Mystic write her back into the story but he then decided to just cut her from the story like he originally intended despite the pressure so I don't see her being in the story from now on.
alright cool, imma remove this from my watched list.
 

STATE_

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So this is almost not even a harem game why it's stupid MC not lyria anymore what was the reason taking her v-card then to me she was used by MC the entire time till he got to destination and god needed so basically discarded her
 

Maccabbee

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So this is almost not even a harem game why it's stupid MC not lyria anymore what was the reason taking her v-card then to me she was used by MC the entire time till he got to destination and god needed so basically discarded her
I am going to play before final judgement, but I agree that the DLC release has not gone great (haven't gotten to the content yet), and I am very upset about an LI, the very first one, just getting written out for no fucking reason other than the dev changed their fucking mind.
 
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STATE_

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I am going to play before final judgement, but I agree that the DLC release has not gone great (haven't gotten to the content yet), and I am very upset about an LI, the very first one, just getting written out for no fucking reason other than the dev changed their fucking mind.
it's a lot of choices for your kingdom, I haven't finished it yet, but it's interesting
 

Nxooda

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“How will you make renders for 50 million possible outcomes?”

You misunderstood the phrase. That wasn’t literal. That’s hyperbole for the sheer scope of branching decisions, not that I’m rendering 50 million variations in DAZ one by one.
Okay so you'd do multiple endings and then a summarization of events similarly to bg3 endings? Will every choice made in the DLC be accounted for in writing book 2? Personally I feel like that will only result in events that will clash with key or major events unless they really don't matter? Which then I think the criticism is still valid that it's a type of filler x)

Totally fair. And you will see that. But Book 1 had to end. What’s being built now is the result of what happened in Book 1. That means a wider lens, bigger picture, and yes, some shifts in tone. It’s not the end of what made Book 1 it’s just not only that anymore.
Awesome! That makes me excited and I'm glad you specifically pointed that out because I think that is what the majority of people are looking for! Don't forget the harem part in there ;)


I have to weigh what serves the overall vision vs. what pulls it backwards. War Table was tighter and smaller. It would be simple, quick, easy. But as I said... I had a question. And Wheel of Fate became the answer to a question I asked myself "what if I actually followed through on the world I built?"
We'll see if you can actually manage to do that. If you can that would be amazing.


I hope this helps you understand the situation on this better.
Yeah thanks for the clarification!~
 

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From review by SteelyDan14
"I've said this before, but so many of these AVNs start out strong. The devs have a great idea to start but have obviously not fleshed out the entire story and eventually lose their way. This is a perfect example. Strong start, crappy middle game and lord only knows where the ending is going to go."

The reviewer left out one thing: The toxic culture here, of entitled, brainless members, contributes to a situation they describe and add to.
But of course, those same members don't have the empathy to see it's partially their fault. It's blaming everything else but yourself times hundreds of Wack-A Moles here, the dev has to deal with.

If you remove the toxic element, what's left? Constructive suggestions and supportive members. Oh my God, what an original thought.
I know this won't make sense to most here, especially the 14-inch dildo.

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My thoughts on the game are that it's good. It has excellent world-building. One standout to me is that the music fits well in the game.
This shows forethought and hard work for the developer.
I saw this comment coincidentally while I was scrolling through finding my own post and I think you're quite the narcissist. Went to check out the review and it's not as bad as your comment. Mystic could probably dev you in as a champion of the God of Narcisism where you go on your crusade to battle toxicity with toxicity.

Anyway, if you disagree with the review how about you write one yourself? Instead of writing your thoughts that are so generic it could fit under any game that has world building and music.
 

BGRW2020

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You know decent Dev's care what their readers think, and at least he should do a poll whether or not to re-introduce Lyria, he created a character that too many people really liked / loved and that is the crux of the problem for him. If you did not want to keep her you should not have started the love affair with her, Elfs mate for life
 
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You know decent Dev's care what their readers think, and at least he should do a poll whether or not to re-introduce Lyria, he created a character that too many people really liked / loved and that is the crux of the problem for him. If you did not want to keep her you should not have started the love affair with her, Elfs mate for life
Yeah, especially when she and Aria are only ones that are good looking and have nice personality.
 
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