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She truies to blackmail her into sex essentially. That doesn't sound like consent... sex without consent is... ah well
Ashe has the choice to leave and reject Natasha's advances as abusive and unwanted or to stay and consent to Natasha's advances as dominating and arousing.

While the above is true, Ashe's choices do not change the morality/immorality of Natasha's behaviour. Natasha still gropes her, abuses her position as a police officer and blackmails her. Natasha is not a good person.

However Ashe is not forced to submit to Natasha. If she chooses to submit, then that is a consensual kittenish choice that Ashe herself finds intensely arousing. The fact that the power dynamics are wildly skewed in Natasha's favour does not make Ashe's choice to submit or the pleasure she takes in it, invalid. Not in the context of a game where binary choices have to be made in order to register decisions.
 
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You make a lot of good points. Thanks for bouncing ideas around, it's fun!

Why blackmail, when you can just ask? That is a great point, and I think whoever is revealed to be the blackmailer it will revolve around the nature of the blackmail being centred on sexual pedagogy for Ashe. Why is it so benign and sexual? Finding that combination will be the key. As for Victoria, she may have seen how messed up Ashe is, how harsh on herself, how insecure, etc., and this whole production is a way to open her doors and come to grips with her own sexuality. A bit like her dream demon self. Maybe Victoria wants to either prepare her for Delilah, or show Delilah how Ashe isn't going to be a good fit for her? I don't know, but I don't think the theory is necessarily blown up, but it does need more nuance. It could even be a shotgun of motivations, with some altruistic, some inherently selfish and sexual. The form of the blackmail, 'try out this anal plug,' 'take sexy pics of yourself,' 'try and get laid on your date,' really don't match the seriousness of blackmail. It's more like a game, some kinky foreplay that Ashe has been coerced into.
Oh yeah no worries, I enjoy bouncing ideas around.

Yeah I wouldn't dismiss it, I just don't think we've uncovered a good enough reason for Victoria to do what she's doing, hence why I also noted that there's a chance the blackmail is hinging on information that we don't have access to, perhaps a shared past event between Ashe and whomever the blackmailer is that lies as an unseen trigger for that character.
And yeah as you said, it's more like a game than conventional blackmail which makes it a bit difficult to pinpoint whom the blackmailer is and why they are blackmailing to begin with.

I did ponder the idea of Victoria potentially doing it to show that Ashe isn't a good fit for Delilah, I think out of all the reasons for Victoria to blackmail, that one makes the most kind of sense in a twisted way. Mainly because we don't really know Victoria or what she's like, so it's absolutely a possibility and gives an adequate reason for Delilah to be involved other than Victoria being a sociopath.

Delilah as a white knight is a very interesting theory. I like that. Not sure if it's how it will play out, but the pieces are there. That implies that she found out when Ashe and Zoey fucked at the sleepover, and she came up with the plan on the fly. Possible, but I get the feeling Delilah would need more time to mentally build herself up to that.
I think a character as wired and apparently into Ashe is a bit of a coinflip in terms of how they would react or do things in that they either take WAY too long to mentally build themselves up and think of plans, or they do things WAY too quickly and rashly. The current blackmail and Delilah's behaviour would fit into the latter where she might have jumped the gun and she isn't really sure where to go with things or what she's doing, and only really thinking that she wants Ashe to turn to her.

I think it's the strongest theory involving Delilah atleast since it would explain her erratic and almost unhinged behaviour a bit better than most I've seen thus far, and it would also fit in with how much she seemingly romanticizes Ashe.


Fiona seems pretty stoked for Ashe's hookups, like Lexi, and so determined to keep themselves casual, I can't quite see it. But good to look at every possibility. I'd be very surprised, as it just doesn't feel like her style. Her style was to watch porn with Ashe and eat her out. And hang out and fuck her another day. It's so 'go with the flow' compared to the manipulation and effort of the blackmail plot.

Agreed on Kate and Zoey. Neither feel like good suspects.
Yeah, I think Fiona is a fairly weak possibility, but it's also one I have a hard time letting go of completely with all the media I've seen/read that involved a best friend blackmailing someone. But yeah it is basically the weakest out of all the 'possible' ones, but given that the blackmail started after Fiona potentially got a handjob, there's always a small possibility that it triggered something with Fiona.


Moira has the means, but I think circling back to the nature of the blackmail being almost a soft sexual bootcamp, it doesn't match her cutthroat potential. I'd expect something more definitive, rather than this cat playing with its food style of things. And pushing for her to sleep with Vanessa and the tone around it...I'd expect more snark or a patronising tone to have snuck in. It all seems too small fry for her, in my book. As you say, she has many more efficient ways of pushing Ashe out of her daughter's life, if that was the goal.

And I agree, I think all the clues pointing towards Delilah means there's more to the story than it just being Delilah (though if that had been revealed in Chapter 5, I would have been very happy). And the logical conclusion of it being someone we haven't seen yet is why Victoria jumped out at me as a candidate.

If it turns out to be Rachel, then yes, that's about as evil and conniving as a character can get. I can't see how it wouldn't destroy Ashe and blow up the family, especially with the incongruity of that kind of betrayal with the asks of the blackmail. That'd be so brutal, and I hope it's anyone else.
Oh yeah, Moira has the means but that's about it, you pretty much perfectly pointed out why it's not feasible.
If it turns out to be Victoria then hot damn that situation will be complicated going forward.. you're potentially banging her wife, and her daughter is into you to an unhealthy degree and now you're getting blackmailed by that person. That's a LOT of potential drama and potential to blow up several peoples lives.

Rachel would be the worst case scenario, fully DEFCON 1 status and would probably cause me to drop the game.
 
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Oh yeah no worries, I enjoy bouncing ideas around.

Yeah I wouldn't dismiss it, I just don't think we've uncovered a good enough reason for Victoria to do what she's doing, hence why I also noted that there's a chance the blackmail is hinging on information that we don't have access to, perhaps a shared past event between Ashe and whomever the blackmailer is that lies as an unseen trigger for that character.
And yeah as you said, it's more like a game than conventional blackmail which makes it a bit difficult to pinpoint whom the blackmailer is and why they are blackmailing to begin with.

I did ponder the idea of Victoria potentially doing it to show that Ashe isn't a good fit for Delilah, I think out of all the reasons for Victoria to blackmail, that one makes the most kind of sense in a twisted way. Mainly because we don't really know Victoria or what she's like, so it's absolutely a possibility and gives an adequate reason for Delilah to be involved other than Victoria being a sociopath.


I think a character as wired and apparently into Ashe is a bit of a coinflip in terms of how they would react or do things in that they either take WAY too long to mentally build themselves up and think of plans, or they do things WAY too quickly and rashly. The current blackmail and Delilah's behaviour would fit into the latter where she might have jumped the gun and she isn't really sure where to go with things or what she's doing, and only really thinking that she wants Ashe to turn to her.

I think it's the strongest theory involving Delilah atleast since it would explain her erratic and almost unhinged behaviour a bit better than most I've seen thus far, and it would also fit in with how much she seemingly romanticizes Ashe.



Yeah, I think Fiona is a fairly weak possibility, but it's also one I have a hard time letting go of completely with all the media I've seen/read that involved a best friend blackmailing someone. But yeah it is basically the weakest out of all the 'possible' ones, but given that the blackmail started after Fiona potentially got a handjob, there's always a small possibility that it triggered something with Fiona.



Oh yeah, Moira has the means but that's about it, you pretty much perfectly pointed out why it's not feasible.
If it turns out to be Victoria then hot damn that situation will be complicated going forward.. you're potentially banging her wife, and her daughter is into you to an unhealthy degree and now you're getting blackmailed by that person. That's a LOT of potential drama and potential to blow up several peoples lives.

Rachel would be the worst case scenario, fully DEFCON 1 status and would probably cause me to drop the game.
You two brought up some really good points.

And honestly the more I read them I think from a writers perspective it would make the most sense that it`s Rachel with Delilahs weird acting being a red herring and completely unrelated to the blackmail thing.

That would be pretty dark indeed but a pretty strong plot twist imho.

I very much appreciate the writing of this VN and think it`s extraordinary that a porn game (with actually really good porn in it) is able to evoke these discussions.

Btw: Who is Kendra? When was she mentioned?
 
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You two brought up some really good points.

And honestly the more I read them I think from a writers perspective it would make the most sense that it`s Rachel with Delilahs weird acting being a red herring and completely unrelated to the blackmail thing.

That would be pretty dark indeed but a pretty strong plot twist imho.

I very much appreciate the writing of this VN and think it`s extraordinary that a porn game (with actually really good porn in it) is able to evoke these discussions.
I didn't really delve into Rachel as a possibility mainly because I'm kind of scared that it actually would be her.. but for the sake of argument, let's dig into it a bit.
As previously noted, the blackmail seem to be more like a game for the blackmailer, and is geared towards both making Ashe more sexual and to mentally corner her and isolate her, which usually points towards someone wanting to take advantage of that cornered mentality whether it's to create an emotional and physical bond, or to physically take advantage of the person getting blackmailed, or to make sure that they can be controlled to the fullest extent etc.
By those metrics, we then need to look into what Rachel could possibly gain from doing so and her motives, there are a few possibilities that spring to mind;
-Rachel wants Ashe to get involved with someone so that the way Rachel treated Ashe with her whole blowup and ignoring Ashe will be swept under the rug and partially forgotten about.
-Rachel wants to tie Ashe up in her own sexual stuff so that Rachel can mess around with whomever she wants without Ashe interfering somehow.
-Rachel wants to somehow groom Ashe to fit her own personal kinks.
-Rachel, given that she seems extremely disrespectful and selfish, might want to get back at Ashe for what happened between them.

Honestly it's a bit difficult to find a convincing motive for Rachel if we assume that she's not interested in anything romantic or physical with Ashe at this point (which she doesn't seem to be), the only other plausible scenarios would then be fueled by either greed or malice.
Though then again, there's always the possibility of Rachel potentially acting on information that we haven't got access to. I might also be completely missing something, it's been a while since I've played the game and I am also sleep deprived at the moment.

It's always kind of fun to analyse and try to dissect narratives so I'm always down for some of that.

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Btw: Who is Kendra? When was she mentioned?

You can find Kendra being mentioned in this poster that outlines characters;
Here you can see which characters have a vagina and which ones have a penis.
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Truthfully, I cannot recall where and if she's referred to in the game itself, but she's apparently tangentially linked to Evelyn somehow.
 

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I didn't really delve into Rachel as a possibility mainly because I'm kind of scared that it actually would be her.. but for the sake of argument, let's dig into it a bit.
As previously noted, the blackmail seem to be more like a game for the blackmailer, and is geared towards both making Ashe more sexual and to mentally corner her and isolate her, which usually points towards someone wanting to take advantage of that cornered mentality whether it's to create an emotional and physical bond, or to physically take advantage of the person getting blackmailed, or to make sure that they can be controlled to the fullest extent etc.
By those metrics, we then need to look into what Rachel could possibly gain from doing so and her motives, there are a few possibilities that spring to mind;
-Rachel wants Ashe to get involved with someone so that the way Rachel treated Ashe with her whole blowup and ignoring Ashe will be swept under the rug and partially forgotten about.
-Rachel wants to tie Ashe up in her own sexual stuff so that Rachel can mess around with whomever she wants without Ashe interfering somehow.
-Rachel wants to somehow groom Ashe to fit her own personal kinks.
-Rachel, given that she seems extremely disrespectful and selfish, might want to get back at Ashe for what happened between them.

Honestly it's a bit difficult to find a convincing motive for Rachel if we assume that she's not interested in anything romantic or physical with Ashe at this point (which she doesn't seem to be), the only other plausible scenarios would then be fueled by either greed or malice.
Though then again, there's always the possibility of Rachel potentially acting on information that we haven't got access to. I might also be completely missing something, it's been a while since I've played the game and I am also sleep deprived at the moment.

It's always kind of fun to analyse and try to dissect narratives so I'm always down for some of that.




You can find Kendra being mentioned in this poster that outlines characters;


Truthfully, I cannot recall where and if she's referred to in the game itself, but she's apparently tangentially linked to Evelyn somehow.
Have some sleep mate! :D

I understand that you are trying to make sense of this from a charcter`s perspective. Where i was coming from was more from the writers perspective. it would just be a good plot twist. The real motives of the character Rachel might just be that she still hates Rachel for what she has done to her or that she also thinks that she had killed her Mom like Ashe is told by "the other one". Or something else that is revealed later.

This very chart/poster is where I saw her name and was wondering whoever Kendra is. Especially when she is related to Evelyn and therefore should be in the inner family circle.
 
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Have some sleep mate! :D

I understand that you are trying to make sense of this from a charcter`s perspective. Where i was coming from was more from the writers perspective. it would just be a good plot twist. The real motives of the character Rachel might just be that she still hates Rachel for what she has done to her or that she also thinks that she had killed her Mom like Ashe is told by "the other one". Or something else that is revealed later.
Yeah I'll hopefully get some rest later tonight.

Ah, yeah I mean from an authors perspective I can definitely agree that it would be the most insane twist. It's not the first time I've seen blackmail being used by a familial person in a story, but given Rachel and Ashe's history, it would be a brutal reveal for sure.
And yeah I mean no matter how much I think about it, I think that Rachels motive would have to be in either malice or revenge, perhaps both. Would be hard to make sense of it if it was due to misguided love or something like that.

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This very chart/poster is where I saw her name and was wondering whoever Kendra is. Especially when she is related to Evelyn and therefore should be in the inner family circle.
I can't recall that name being mentioned in the game, but if I had to guess, then it's likely either a sister of Evelyn (as I don't think Evelyn has ever talked about her family either) or a very close friend perhaps.
It'll be interesting to see when that character pops up however.
 
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For the people who thinks that Victoria is the blackmailer, i have a question:

You have the choice to avoid Kate. If you do, the blackmail still happens, right? Then she's not a possibility for me, because she wouldn't have a reason for that, right?

This is a honest question because i didn't refuse Kate, so i don't know the possibilities here. The DEV can make an infinite list of blackmailers for each choice/path you make? yes, but i doubt it.
 
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Speaking of Kendra, Stella seems like the kind of woman (based on what we saw at the end of episode 4) that would enjoy watching Evelyn get railed by her sister. Also Victoria and Evelyn being a CQ route relationship would be interesting, especially if they work at the same place (I don't remember if it was stated where Victoria works). Another interesting CQ route event could be Victoria "taking" Kate back from Ashe.
 

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I didn't really delve into Rachel as a possibility mainly because I'm kind of scared that it actually would be her.. but for the sake of argument, let's dig into it a bit.
As previously noted, the blackmail seem to be more like a game for the blackmailer, and is geared towards both making Ashe more sexual and to mentally corner her and isolate her, which usually points towards someone wanting to take advantage of that cornered mentality whether it's to create an emotional and physical bond, or to physically take advantage of the person getting blackmailed, or to make sure that they can be controlled to the fullest extent etc.
By those metrics, we then need to look into what Rachel could possibly gain from doing so and her motives, there are a few possibilities that spring to mind;
-Rachel wants Ashe to get involved with someone so that the way Rachel treated Ashe with her whole blowup and ignoring Ashe will be swept under the rug and partially forgotten about.
-Rachel wants to tie Ashe up in her own sexual stuff so that Rachel can mess around with whomever she wants without Ashe interfering somehow.
-Rachel wants to somehow groom Ashe to fit her own personal kinks.
-Rachel, given that she seems extremely disrespectful and selfish, might want to get back at Ashe for what happened between them.

Honestly it's a bit difficult to find a convincing motive for Rachel if we assume that she's not interested in anything romantic or physical with Ashe at this point (which she doesn't seem to be), the only other plausible scenarios would then be fueled by either greed or malice.
Though then again, there's always the possibility of Rachel potentially acting on information that we haven't got access to. I might also be completely missing something, it's been a while since I've played the game and I am also sleep deprived at the moment.

It's always kind of fun to analyse and try to dissect narratives so I'm always down for some of that.




You can find Kendra being mentioned in this poster that outlines characters;


Truthfully, I cannot recall where and if she's referred to in the game itself, but she's apparently tangentially linked to Evelyn somehow.
She's Evelyn's sister. Evelyn says something about them not having a good relationship or something like that
 

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I use Renpy Plugin version 8.0.3_7.5.3_009
and Joiplay version 1.20.540
I cant get it to run. It only seems to allow other versions to run it on this version of Joiplay. And the ones I tried and don't want to use anymore I don't know how to uninstall from it. Man why is this so complicated sometimes or I'am I dumb?
 

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I don't think there's crazy enough sex should could do to make up for it, if that's what she did. It makes a sick kind of sense, but would just be so entirely reprehensible that I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire, if I were Ashe. Playing the support role for your own Machiavellian scheme is just disgusting. But it would be napalm quality drama, I suppose.

Edit: I think that might kill the game for me, if that's the reveal. Kinda nauseous just thinking about it.
It's potentially inline with her cuck-route personality. It would be a terrible (for Ashe) reveal, but it's definitely within the realm of possibilities. Would explain some of her fucked up behaviour.

It would be quite diabolical for the dev to use Rachel like that. So.. probably it's her? :Kappa:
 

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honestly if Rachael ends up being the blackmailer which I hope isn't the case. I'm gonna have to pull out my simp card. Cause I will still want to like her as my 2nd favorite LI. Tho that isn't hard to do in this game , as only a handful of characters in this game I consider someone id romance a main LI rest is content

For me Content = Fiona , Natasha , Isabella , Kate , Mc's mother, Cleo any other random girl I forgot about

LI for me = Vanessa , Rachael , Zoey

Unsure about = Spike , Lexi , Delilah
 
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honestly if Rachael ends up being the blackmailer which I hope isn't the case. I'm gonna have to pull out my simp card. Cause I will still want to like her as my 2nd favorite LI. Tho that isn't hard to do in this game , as only a handful of characters in this game I consider someone id romance a main LI rest is content

For me Content = Fiona , Natasha , Isabella , Kate , Mc's mother, Cleo any other random girl I forgot about

LI for me = Vanessa , Rachael , Zoey

Unsure about = Spike , Lexi , Delilah
Come on Mate, Delilah is also pretty hot :D

The outfit she is wearing for the big party looks pretty sexy and her business Dress suits her also very well. I was just as surprised as Ashe how good she looks in it.
 
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RapeCop spoils everything. Can't support a project with RapeCop
Ha! I bet Natasha will get nice redeeming arc in latter parts of the story and she's gonna catch and lock up the blackmailer, anyway, if situation goes out of hand. :D

blackmail = coercion
Nah, you are wrong here. Blackmail isn't really coercion, especially when it comes to reputational blackmail.

If blackmailer doesn't act like terrorist (ie. threatens your life or life of members of your family in order to push you into becoming his tool of destruction or demanding evil doing from you) and whole blackmail is based just on knowledge of true information you would prefer to stay private, it isn't really coercive. Because unlike your life or health you don't own exclusive rights on what other people should know or not know about you. You can stop people telling lies about you, which damage your reputation, but not the truth.

Truth-based kind of reputational blackmail isn't really coercive and is based on your choice. If blackmailer knows the truth, he or she can go public with it anyway, and if you agree to pay for silence, you're just paying for prefered postponement of getting it leaked. So, you can pay to buy some time and prepare your damage control, you wouldn't have chance to set up, if not that warning. If blackmailing person wouldn't be greedy and go public for free straight on, you couldn't control even that time shit hits the fan.

Nobody is obliged to help you keeping up your appearances. And it's your problem, if you're not open about yourself and need to mask up in order to function in society. When you aren't, your potentially giving much power over yourself to other people, which is dumb thing to do.

Duplos should get out of the closet! :D
 
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Nah, you are wrong here. Blackmail isn't really coercion, especially when it comes to reputational blackmail.

If blackmailer doesn't act like terrorist (ie. threatens your life or life of members of your family in order to push you into becoming his tool of destruction or demanding evil doing from you) and whole blackmail is based just on knowledge of true information you would prefer to stay private, it isn't really coercive. Because unlike your life or health you don't own exclusive rights on what other people should know or not know about you. You can stop people telling lies about you, which damage your reputation, but not the truth.

Truth-based kind of reputational blackmail isn't really coercive and is based on your choice. If blackmailer knows the truth, he or she can go public with it anyway, and if you agree to pay for silence, you're just paying for prefered postponement of getting it leaked. So, you can pay to buy some time and prepare your damage control, you wouldn't have chance to set up, if not that warning. If blackmailing person wouldn't be greedy and go public for free straight on, you couldn't control even that time shit hits the fan.
This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read, holy christ.

According to Merriam-Webster:

blackmail
noun
black·mail ˈblak-ˌmāl
Synonyms of blackmail
1: a tribute anciently exacted on the Scottish border by plundering chiefs in exchange for immunity from pillage
2
a: extortion or coercion by threats especially of public exposure or criminal prosecution
b: the payment that is extorted

Blackmail IS coercion, regardless of the circumstance. There is no distinction for "truth-based blackmail" or whatever the fuck you're on about.

Nobody is obliged to help you keeping up your appearances. And it's your problem, if you're not open about yourself and need to mask up in order to function in society. When you aren't, your potentially giving much power over yourself to other people, which is dumb thing to do.

Duplos should get out of the closet! :D
People have a myriad reasons for wanting privacy. Wanting to hide aspects of a person's life is their right, and it's definitely not "giving power over them" to some random shithead who breached their privacy.
 
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This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read, holy christ.

According to Merriam-Webster:

blackmail
noun
black·mail ˈblak-ˌmāl
Synonyms of blackmail
1: a tribute anciently exacted on the Scottish border by plundering chiefs in exchange for immunity from pillage
2
a: extortion or coercion by threats especially of public exposure or criminal prosecution
b: the payment that is extorted

Blackmail IS coercion, regardless of the circumstance. There is no distinction for "truth-based blackmail" or whatever the fuck you're on about.



People have a myriad reasons for wanting privacy. Wanting to hide aspects of a person's life is their right, and it's definitely not "giving power over them" to some random shithead who breached their privacy.
Yeah, privacy...
How much of your friends, family members, our wife or mom, etc... know about your membership on this site or even of interest of this kind of games.
Privacy is one of most important things in live...
 
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This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read, holy christ.

According to Merriam-Webster:

blackmail
noun
black·mail ˈblak-ˌmāl
Synonyms of blackmail
1: a tribute anciently exacted on the Scottish border by plundering chiefs in exchange for immunity from pillage
2
a: extortion or coercion by threats especially of public exposure or criminal prosecution
b: the payment that is extorted

Blackmail IS coercion, regardless of the circumstance. There is no distinction for "truth-based blackmail" or whatever the fuck you're on about.



People have a myriad reasons for wanting privacy. Wanting to hide aspects of a person's life is their right, and it's definitely not "giving power over them" to some random shithead who breached their privacy.
Yeah, the dictionary is blind to intricacies of moral theory and usually is reflection of dumbed-down lowest denominator mainstream outlook, so I wouldn't treat its definitions as ultimate truth. Not all threats have coercive qualities and not all coercion is unlawful. Check it out:

At first glance it is not hard to answer the question, “Is blackmail really illegitimate?” The only problem it​
would seem to pose is, “Why is it being asked at all?” Do not blackmailers, well . . . blackmail people? And what could be worse? Blackmailers prey on people’s dark hidden secrets. They threaten to expose and publicize them. They bleed their victims, and often drive them to suicide.​
We will find, however, that the case against the blackmailer cannot stand serious analysis; that it is based upon a tissue of unexamined shibboleths and deep philosophical misunderstandings.​
What, exactly, is blackmail? Blackmail is the offer of trade. It is the offer to trade something, usually silence, for some other good, usually money. If the offer of the trade is accepted, the blackmailer then maintains his silence and the blackmailee pays the agreed-upon price. If the blackmail offer is rejected, the blackmailer may exercise his rights of free speech and publicize the secret. There is nothing amiss here. All that is happening is that an offer to maintain silence is being made. If the offer is rejected, the blackmailer does no more than exercise his right of free speech.​
The sole difference between a gossip and a blackmailer is that the blackmailer will refrain from speaking—for a price. In a sense, the gossip is much worse than the blackmailer, for the blackmailer has given the blackmailee a chance to silence him. The gossip exposes the secret without warning. Is not the person with a secret better off at the hands of a blackmailer than a gossip? With the gossip, all is lost; with the blackmailer, one can only gain, or at least be no worse off. If the price requested by the blackmailer is lower than the secret is worth, the secretholder will pay the blackmailer—this being the lesser of the two evils.​
He thus gains the difference to him between the value of the secret and the price of the blackmail. When the blackmailer demands more than the secret is worth, his demand will not be met and the information will become public. However, in this case the person is no worse off with the blackmailer than he would have been with the inveterate gossip. It is indeed difficult, then, to account for the vilification suffered by the blackmailer, at least compared to the gossip, who is usually dismissed with slight contempt and smugness.​
Blackmail need not entail the offer of silence in return for money. This is only the best known form. But blackmail may be defined without reference to either. Defined in general terms, blackmail is the threat to do something—anything which is not in itself illegal—unless certain demands are met.​
Many actions in the public arena qualify as acts of blackmail, but, instead of being vilified, they have often attained a status of respectability! For example, the recent lettuce boycott is a form of blackmail. Through the lettuce boycott (or any boycott) threats are made to retailers and wholesalers of fruits and vegetables. If they handle nonunion lettuce, the boycotters assert, people will be asked not to patronize their establishments. This conforms perfectly to the definition: a threat that something, not in itself illegal, will take place unless certain demands are met.​
But what about the threats involved in blackmail? This perhaps more than anything else, is the aspect of blackmail that is most misunderstood and feared. At first glance, one is inclined to agree that threats are immoral. The usual dictum against aggression, for example, warns not only against aggression per se but also against the threat of aggression. If a highwayman accosts a traveler, it is usually the threat of aggression alone that will compel obedience.​
Consider the nature of threats. When what is threatened is aggressive violence, the threat is condemnable. No individual has the right to initiate aggressive violence against another. In blackmail, however, what is being “threatened” is something that the blackmailer does have a right to do!—whether it be exercising the right of free speech, or refusing to patronize certain stores, or persuading others to do likewise. What is being threatened is not in itself illegitimate; it is, therefore, not possible to call the “threat” an illegitimate threat.​
Blackmail can only be illegitimate when there is a special foresworn relationship between the blackmailer and the blackmailee. A secret-keeper may take a lawyer or a private investigator into his confidence on the condition that the confidence be maintained in secrecy. If the lawyer or private investigator attempts to blackmail the secret-keeper, that would be in violation of the contract and, therefore, illegitimate. However, if a stranger holds the secret without contractual obligations, then it is legitimate to offer to “sell” his silence.​
In addition to being a legitimate activity, blackmail has some good effects, litanies to the contrary notwithstanding. Apart from some innocent victims who are caught in the net, whom does the blackmailer usually prey upon? In the main, there are two groups. One group is composed of criminals: murderers, thieves, swindlers, embezzlers, cheaters, rapists, etc. The other group consists of people who engage in activities, not illegitimate in themselves, but which are contrary to the mores and habits of the majority: homosexuals, sado-masochists, sexual perverts, communists, adulterers, etc. The institution of blackmail has beneficial, but different, effects upon each of these groups.​
In the case of criminals, blackmail and the threat of blackmail serves as a deterrent. They add to the risks involved in criminal activity. How many of the anonymous “tips” received by the police—the value of which cannot be overestimated— can be traced, directly or indirectly, to blackmail? How many criminals are led to pursue crime on their own, eschewing the aid of fellow criminals in “jobs” that call for cooperation, out of the fear of possible blackmail? Finally, there are those individuals who are on the verge of committing crimes, or at the “margin of criminality” (as the economist would say), where the least factor will propel them one way or another. The additional fear of blackmail may be enough, in some cases, to dissuade them from crime.​
If blackmail itself were legalized, it would undoubtedly be an even more effective deterrent. Legalization would undoubtedly result in an increase in blackmail, with attendant depredations upon the criminal class.​
It is sometimes said that what diminishes crime is not the penalty attached to the crime but the certainty of being caught. Although this controversy rages with great relevance in current debates on capital punishment, it will suffice to point out that the institution of blackmail does both. It increases the penalty associated with crime, as it forces criminals to share part of their loot with the blackmailer. It also raises the probability of being apprehended, as blackmailers are added to police forces, private citizen and vigilante groups, and other anticrime units. Blackmailers, who are often members in good standing in the criminal world, are in an advantageous position to foil crimes. Their “inside” status surpasses even that of the spy or infiltrator, who is forced to play a role. Legalizing blackmail would thus allow anticrime units to take advantage of two basic crime fighting adages at the same time: “divide and conquer,” and “lack of honor among thieves.” It is quite clear that one important effect of legalizing blackmail would be to diminish crime, real crime, that is.​
The legalization of blackmail would also have a beneficial effect upon actions which do not involve aggression, but are at variance with the mores of society as a whole. On these actions, the legalization of blackmail would have a liberating effect.​
Even with blackmail still illegal, we are witnessing some of its beneficial effects. Homosexuality, for instance, is technically illegal in some instances, but not really criminal, since it involves no aggression. For individual homosexuals, blackmail very often causes considerable harm and can hardly be considered beneficial. But for the group as a whole, that is, for each individual as a member of the group, blackmail has helped by making the public more aware and accustomed to homosexuality. Forcing individual members of a socially oppressed group into the open, or “out of the closet,” cannot, of course, be considered a service. The use of force is a violation of an individual’s rights. But still, it does engender an awareness on the part of members of a group of one another’s existence. In forcing this perception, blackmail can legitimately take some small share of the credit in liberating people whose only crime is a deviation from the norm in a noncriminal way.​
In reflecting on the old aphorism, “the truth shall make you free,” the only “weapon” at the disposal of the blackmailer is the truth. In using the truth to back up his threats (as on occasion he must), he sets the truth free, very often without intent, to do whatever good or bad it is capable of doing.​
from Block's "Defending the Undefendable"
Duplos fit in with paragraph on closet homosexuality quite nicely, I think.

When it comes to me, I agree with that viewpoint with one exception. Truth-based blackmail stops being passable in one condition. When society is going into ethnic cleansing/extermination mode, when state creates laws that allow to lawfully kill whole groups or demographics.

But since I don't see foreboding duplo-Holocaust in futa-world presented by the game on the horizon and Ashe is threatened only by loss of position on marital market and risk of deemed unworthy of serious relationship by bigoted, I'm ok with that.
 
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