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i think on hold might be more closer to the truthYes you're so right! Mods please add an "abandoned" tag to the title of this game - it will help with the unnecessary discussion
i think on hold might be more closer to the truthYes you're so right! Mods please add an "abandoned" tag to the title of this game - it will help with the unnecessary discussion
The amount of whining and misplaced entitlement in this post is staggering.The amount of whining and misplaced entitlement in this thread is staggering.
Like? Pay.
Don't like anymore? Stop paying.
Effective. Simple.
Anything else is noise.
it hasn't been 2 years its only been like a year and half i believeWell I actually do hope that it's not dead because I really like it. However at what point a game should be considered as abandoned? After 2 years of no updates and proof of work in progress? Not untill dev declare he abandon the project?
Making a game takes a lot of work and time, belive me as I'm talking out of experience. But why not communicate your progress with community that supports you(patreon)?
It shouldn't matter if this website marks the game as abandoned or not. If you don't believe it'll get updated again and have given up on it at this point, then just walk away, but all the trolling about how long it's been since the last update, if it's abandoned, as well as the ridiculing the patreons still donating is just getting old. I could go on, but I've already fed the trolls too much by now. Other threads on this site have had mods come down quite harshly on posters for far less than what's been going on here. At this point, they're overdue for a ruling.Well I actually do hope that it's not dead because I really like it. However at what point a game should be considered as abandoned? After 2 years of no updates and proof of work in progress? Not untill dev declare he abandon the project?
Making a game takes a lot of work and time, belive me as I'm talking out of experience. But why not communicate your progress with community that supports you(patreon)?
Acctualy it does - for the users of this site at least:It shouldn't matter if this website marks the game as abandoned or not. If you don't believe it'll get updated again and have given up on it at this point, then just walk away, but all the trolling about how long it's been since the last update, if it's abandoned, as well as the ridiculing the patreons still donating is just getting old. I could go on, but I've already fed the trolls too much by now. Other threads on this site have had mods come down quite harshly on posters for far less than what's been going on here. At this point, they're overdue for a ruling.
Thanks for sharing the rant, it's just about the only worthwhile post in the whole thread since the last release links.News (it's rather funny I think):
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Hi everyone,
I stopped reading most of your messages and comments a while ago because some of the crap I've been receiving can be quite distracting. Sorry if you wrote me something normal and I haven't replied.
Today, however, I had to skim through everything I missed in order to extract the wallpaper ideas (thank you for those) and I'm now angry enough to blurt shit out from the top of my head. I'll do it in bullet points in no particular order:
- If you want to send me personal insults, don't bother. I couldn't care less if you like me or not
- I'm very happy to receive constructive criticism like how to improve writing or images
- It's not constructive criticism to tell me things like 'no one gives a shit about your stupid wallpapers'
- I'm sorry if you're disappointed in me and I hope I can turn that around in the future
- It's fine to tell other people to not become a Patron/Subscriber or to talk shit about me in general. No need to tell me though, I can't act on that info myself
- The game is alive, in active development and will be finished
- You're right that I have gone back and forth on all sorts of predictions in the past; sometimes giving approximate release dates, sometimes saying 'when it's ready'. Shouldn't have done that and won't in the future.
- I have no plans to ever again talk about release dates. Anything I create will come out when it comes out without rhyme or reason and I will leave you completely in the dark about 'progress' in the meantime
- Patreon is a way to voluntarily support creators. Keyword is 'voluntary'. If a creator isn't creating like you want, the place to cancel your Patreon membership is here:
- I've spent a lot of time being responsive in the past, like writing everyone a personal message when they pledged or replying to just about any question about the game, development or even personal stuff. I'm done with that for good
- I'm very grateful for the amazing support you've given me. Sorry that this rant doesn't reflect that
- I'm not depressed anymore
- I'm writing this from the top of my head because I'm pissed off at the moment, but I do mean it. Please take particular note of bullet point 8 and, if you find it unacceptable, bullet point 9.
Actually if he/she doesnt make any post for 3 month then it get abandoned tag but since then dev have been posting wallpaper it get reset.so if he doesn't post progress updates for three months, the game gets "abandoned" tag?
well the dev has come out and said that they would not post any more status updates, so just wallpapers technically shouldnt qualify as an evidence for the game still being in development right?Actually if he/she doesnt make any post for 3 month then it get abandoned tag but since then dev have been posting wallpaper it get reset.
I dont recall that but in my opinion it should be that way. Sometimes long delay to add abandoned tag why? I have no clues. Think about Milfy City...well the dev has come out and said that they would not post any more status updates, so just wallpapers technically shouldnt qualify as an evidence for the game still being in development right?
News (it's rather funny I think):
___________
Hi everyone,
I stopped reading most of your messages and comments a while ago because some of the crap I've been receiving can be quite distracting. Sorry if you wrote me something normal and I haven't replied.
Today, however, I had to skim through everything I missed in order to extract the wallpaper ideas (thank you for those) and I'm now angry enough to blurt shit out from the top of my head. I'll do it in bullet points in no particular order:
- If you want to send me personal insults, don't bother. I couldn't care less if you like me or not
- I'm very happy to receive constructive criticism like how to improve writing or images
- It's not constructive criticism to tell me things like 'no one gives a shit about your stupid wallpapers'
- I'm sorry if you're disappointed in me and I hope I can turn that around in the future
- It's fine to tell other people to not become a Patron/Subscriber or to talk shit about me in general. No need to tell me though, I can't act on that info myself
- The game is alive, in active development and will be finished
- You're right that I have gone back and forth on all sorts of predictions in the past; sometimes giving approximate release dates, sometimes saying 'when it's ready'. Shouldn't have done that and won't in the future.
- I have no plans to ever again talk about release dates. Anything I create will come out when it comes out without rhyme or reason and I will leave you completely in the dark about 'progress' in the meantime
- Patreon is a way to voluntarily support creators. Keyword is 'voluntary'. If a creator isn't creating like you want, the place to cancel your Patreon membership is here:
- I've spent a lot of time being responsive in the past, like writing everyone a personal message when they pledged or replying to just about any question about the game, development or even personal stuff. I'm done with that for good
- I'm very grateful for the amazing support you've given me. Sorry that this rant doesn't reflect that
- I'm not depressed anymore
- I'm writing this from the top of my head because I'm pissed off at the moment, but I do mean it. Please take particular note of bullet point 8 and, if you find it unacceptable, bullet point 9.
I completely agree. When I am not satisfied with a service, I will look elsewhere. There are enough great DEVs that develop great VNs (or games) that I don't have to focus (unnecessarily) on a DEV or VN that is dragging on and I can't see the flow or the end. I am on a pirate forum so I am not milked. No need to complain, let's drop the VNs into dead ends and look elsewhere.F95 has become toxic. I know a few devs and they all are concerned about the blatant attacks on them. I know of two devs now that has decided to leave F95. I totally get why he posted below.
EDIT: Looking at why he wrote it and where, wasn't really right attitude from the dev to say that to his supporters. Hopefully things will work out in the end for all.
I completely agree. When I am not satisfied with a service, I will look elsewhere. There are enough great DEVs that develop great VNs (or games) that I don't have to focus (unnecessarily) on a DEV or VN that is dragging on and I can't see the flow or the end. I am on a pirate forum so I am not milked. No need to complain, let's drop the VNs into dead ends and look elsewhere.
F95 has always been toxic. Even when the standard delivery from the Authors was monthly updates releases.F95 has become toxic. I know a few devs and they all are concerned about the blatant attacks on them. I know of two devs now that has decided to leave F95. I totally get why he posted below.
EDIT: Looking at why he wrote it and where, wasn't really right attitude from the dev to say that to his supporters. Hopefully things will work out in the end for all.
It's not that easy.I completely agree. When I am not satisfied with a service, I will look elsewhere. There are enough great DEVs that develop great VNs (or games) that I don't have to focus (unnecessarily) on a DEV or VN that is dragging on and I can't see the flow or the end. I am on a pirate forum so I am not milked. No need to complain, let's drop the VNs into dead ends and look elsewhere.
This. However, some people just go way and beyond in their compaints and would do some good to keep a cool head and recognize how little their opinion matters if they're not a paying customer.Complaining expresses to still care about the game.