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Colour me impressed

I dodged this till yesterday because of the thumbnails and description. Let's be serious: college, mom and two sisters combined with HoneySelect thumbnails screems "your usual VN with same content over and over".

And now I got to seriously admit "don't judge a book by it's cover" - interesting characters, awesome storytelling and simply fun to play. The game atmosphere is at least up to vis if not even better and the thematic surroundings astonishing.

Chapeau to the developer and thanks for this masterpiece (y)
You should give his other game a shot as well, ironically same "school, mom and two sisters" archetype but completely different story (tho thats not entirely true given the plot reveal at the end) Honeyselect used to be cringe to me until I discovered Caribdis
 
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did by any chance King Slayer100 android port get updated to fix the transitions between scenes? i got the 0.4 version a few days ago, but when there is a hearth transition or something like that, the game throws an error.
 

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That's the mystery, innit? How is a person from 1979 able to dream of a monster that exists in Eternum (which in turn inspired said person to create the "Aliens" film) when the game hasn't been invented yet? One possible theory is that the audio log is implying that Eternum is a dimension that can be accessed through dreams, and that Ulysses has been lying about what it really is -and by extension what the neural implant technology actually does- this whole time. Hell, even the mysterious person in the Ulysses party (the guy who started monologuing about the statues) is implying that the entire thing isn't just "a video game," and that it could be something else entirely.

Or you could argue that the Founder stole the concept of Eternum from the "Aliens" creator and turned it into a VRMMO and that the mysterious person from the party is off his rocker. That...works too I guess?
Oh, I must have missed some details while listening to the tape. I didn't see the part where it says the xenomorph in Eternum inspired the creation of Aliens. I thought it was the other way around, which would be normal. When and where did Isaac Clarke meet the person from 1979? I completely missed that.
 
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Oh, I must have missed some details while listening to the tape. I didn't see the part where it says the xenomorph in Eternum inspired the creation of Aliens. I thought it was the other way around, which would be normal. When and where did Isaac Clarke meet the person from 1979? I completely missed that.
I think what was said by Isaac, if I remember right, is that he started looking up things about what he saw and what was happening, it reminded him of the movie and then he read that the creator of Aliens said he had a dream that inspired them. He never met anyone from 1979, that was just when the interview he was reading happened.
 
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I think what was said by Isaac, if I remember right, is that he started looking up things about what he saw and what was happening, it reminded him of the movie and then he read that the creator of Aliens said he had a dream that inspired them. He never met anyone from 1979, that was just when the interview he was reading happened.
Oh ok. That makes sense now. Oh, I get it now. Orion keeps having different dreams. Orion waking up in a morgue. Orion keeps coming back from near-death experiences. Eternum is Requiem.
 

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The connection of Eternum and OIALT bothers me so much, I mean in OIALT the chaos started when the MC opened a basement with files and computers on it, this also makes me wonder, WHY ARE THEY USING COMPUTER IF THEY WANTED TO REVIVE SOMEONE OR OBTAIN IMMORTALITY!! I mean they should be using sacrifices, rituals, and chants to obtain something like that. Is there a chance that the sons of astaroth where creating or trying to connect with Eternum to obtain power to If yes how?? And also most of the sons of astaroth has no magical ability, I mean Lilith could be experimented herself or she could be a real monster. Also there is a chance that the creator won't show up because they all get killed by the OIALT MC. And from what I've known eternum is just released in the almost end part of the story in OIALT I don't really remember so correct me if I'm wrong. I mean this is just a theory this could be wrong.
 
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The connection of Eternum and OIALT bothers me so much, I mean in OIALT the chaos started when the MC opened a basement with files and computers on it, this also makes me wonder, WHY ARE THEY USING COMPUTER IF THEY WANTED TO REVIVE SOMEONE OR OBTAIN IMMORTALITY!! I mean they should be using sacrifices, rituals, and chants to obtain something like that. Is there a chance that the sons of astaroth where creating or trying to connect with Eternum to obtain power to If yes how?? And also most of the sons of astaroth has no magical ability, I mean Lilith could be experimented herself or she could be a real monster. Also there is a chance that the creator won't show up because they all get killed by the OIALT MC. And from what I've known eternum is just released in the almost end part of the story in OIALT I don't really remember so correct me if I'm wrong. I mean this is just a theory this could be wrong.
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Oh, I must have missed some details while listening to the tape. I didn't see the part where it says the xenomorph in Eternum inspired the creation of Aliens. I thought it was the other way around, which would be normal. When and where did Isaac Clarke meet the person from 1979? I completely missed that.
No, no. You have it backwards and upside-down bud.
  • First time Isaac mentions in Log#43: "... if this is some kind of twisted reference to that old Alien movie it's not funny at all" (Note he mentions "old Alien movie").
  • Second time Isaac mentions in Log#48: "...my first though was to see if maybe the Alien movie could provide more context, turns out the creators only made it after having a dream about the concept so no luck there."
  • In Log#48 he goes on to say he looked to see if there was some Eternum in-game tie-in with the Alien franchise to promote the series "...but no. No sort of collaboration between the two at all."
  • Logs #55 & #67 contain a bit more context and Isaac mentions having to kill an "infected" girl who had been attacked along with her friend and that he noticed a ID card for a company they may have worked for, possibly a dating service.
 
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No, no. You have it backwards and upside-down bud.
  • First time Isaac mentions in Log#43: "... if this is some kind of twisted reference to that old Alien movie it's not funny at all" (Note he mentions "old Alien movie").
  • Second time Isaac mentions in Log#48: "...my first though was to see if maybe the Alien movie could provide more context, turns out the creators only made it after having a dream about the concept so no luck there."
  • In Log#48 he goes on to say he looked to see if there was some Eternum in-game tie-in with the Alien franchise to promote the series "...but no. No sort of collaboration between the two at all."
  • Logs #55 & #67 contain a bit more context and Isaac mentions having to kill an "infected" girl who had been attacked along with her friend and that he noticed a ID card for a company they may have worked for, possibly a dating service.
Thanks for going through the trouble of listing them out. Yeah I got the sequence of the events wrong the first time. I understand the 50 years part now. Basically Isaac or Orion deduced the dream that inspired the Alien movie was this Andromeda server. Luckily, it wasn't inspired by Mass Effect: Andromeda.
 
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Thanks for going through the trouble of listing them out. Yeah I got the sequence of the events wrong the first time. I understand the 50 years part now. Basically Isaac or Orion deduced the dream that inspired the Alien movie was this Andromeda server. Luckily, it wasn't inspired by Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Mass Effect: Andromeda...

I actually enjoyed Mass Effect: Andromeda. I mean, it was nowhere near as good as the other three, but it had its moments. A few characters were great, and some were terrible, it was a decent mid-tier game. Once they fixed the bugs especially. Probably the weirdest thing about the human facial bug was that the Asari used the same basic face models, but all looked fine. It was only human faces (usually human female) that gave off the weird uncanny valley affect.

Now ME:A has nothing on Eternum, this game is great. A better story and characters just all around, and without all the random side quests and grind. One of the things I like most about Eternum and other AVNs in general is you *can* (though unfortunately don't always) get all the romance, story, and choices that games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, the Witcher and such RPGs give you. But without all the grind and... well, frankly, without all the gameplay that gets in the way.
 
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Now ME:A has nothing on Eternum, this game is great. A better story and characters just all around, and without all the random side quests and grind. One of the things I like most about Eternum and other AVNs in general is you *can* (though unfortunately don't always) get all the romance, story, and choices that games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, the Witcher and such RPGs give you. But without all the grind and... well, frankly, without all the gameplay that gets in the way.
There is a story mode in ME (at least in the OG, didn't played andromeda). I never tested it but I think it makes it somewhat a sandbox VN with 3D moving in real time
 

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There is a story mode in ME (at least in the OG, didn't played andromeda). I never tested it but I think it makes it somewhat a sandbox VN with 3D moving in real time
Story mode basically just makes combat ridiculously easy and Sheperd basically immortal in those sections. Your powers regen faster and there are even less enemies, but you still have to do the fights and all the side quests that don't matter other than leveling you up between main quests.

The Mass Effect games are the only games I ever got 100% achievements on. I played them on the hardest mode, they are the only games I do that with, other games I tend to turn the difficulty way down if I can. I still play them from time to time. I actually played Andromeda again about three weeks ago for a lark and was reminded that the game isn't as bad as the hype around made it sound. It's kind of like New Coke back in the 80's. New Coke wasn't "bad," it basically tasted like Pepsi or store-brand cola but compared to original Coke it was garbage.

Funny thing, if you live in Texas or other Sothern USA state with an HEB, their HEB brand cola is New Coke, they bought the recipe and used it for their cola... I don't know why I shared that, maybe someone found it interesting. Maybe Caribdis can use that in the game, make a joke about New Coke or something... :ROFLMAO:

Edit: He could say that the New Coke recipe was from a dream about a horror server with bad foods...
 

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I actually enjoyed Mass Effect: Andromeda. I mean, it was nowhere near as good as the other three, but it had its moments. A few characters were great, and some were terrible, it was a decent mid-tier game. Once they fixed the bugs especially. Probably the weirdest thing about the human facial bug was that the Asari used the same basic face models, but all looked fine. It was only human faces (usually human female) that gave off the weird uncanny valley affect.

Now ME:A has nothing on Eternum, this game is great. A better story and characters just all around, and without all the random side quests and grind. One of the things I like most about Eternum and other AVNs in general is you *can* (though unfortunately don't always) get all the romance, story, and choices that games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, the Witcher and such RPGs give you. But without all the grind and... well, frankly, without all the gameplay that gets in the way.
For me, the biggest disappointment is actually the lore of Andromeda (that means the background, the settings, rather than the story of that particular game. Like, ME 1,2,3 share the same lore but not the same story, if I'm not using the word "lore" correctly.) In the original trilogy, every race had their own homeworld whose environments drive their physique, behaviour and agenda. In Andromeda, the same races are present, but all of them are basically in the same situation, homeless.

They did kinda try to re-create similar environments for some races, such as a barren planet for the Krogans, but that doesn't make sense. The Krogan in the original trilogy didn't choose to live on a barren planet because it suited them. They did so unwittingly because of a civil war that turned the planet into that. The ones that remained because they weren't willing to leave their homeland. All the races from the original trilogy just feel like bland humanoid races without their home planets. You could argue that they were already established in the original trilogy and so they don't need to do it again, but the thing is, it's not just the background, it's their agenda. You could see how every race in the original trilogy had their own agenda, like Krogans trying to solve their low birth rate, Quarians trying to reclaim their homeworld, while main event, which is the Reapers trying to return, happened. These loose ends were all tied up in Mass Effect 3, which is what made it so good. But the races are not the same without their unique struggles.

There was like 1 new race in Andromeda, Angara, 2 if you count Kett as a separate race. But honestly, it feels just like another humanoid race. Maybe it's just me, but I really expected something much more different if we are going to another galaxy. Like, you could explain why all the races in the original trilogy are humanoid, because they are still in the same galaxy. But even compared to the original races, Angara isn't that interesting. They don't have the same kind of struggles the original races had. They have males and females. They have an enemy. That's all. I mean, they are probably closer to Humans than Asari or Geth.

I guess you could argue that not everything was established right from the beginning in the original trilogy as well, and given time, Andromeda could become just as good, but it's not off to a good start in my view. Every installment in the original trilogy had something unique. The first one was establishing all the alien races and give you an idea of what a single Reaper can do. The second one let you see from the perspectives of Cerberus and a Geth, who were both hostile and considered baddies in the first game. It didn't turn them straight-up good guys either. They just explained to you what their agenda are and so why the mainstream forces don't approve them. The third one was all about fighting the Reapers, the threat that had been building up in the first 2 games. It totally lived up to the expectations.

I'm sorry that I ranted so much but, this is exactly why I like Caribdis' games. His flow is pretty much what the Mass Effect trilogy did, as it seems. Establish what Eternum is, and what the goal is. Then offer hints that it might not be what it was established to be. Then comes the conclusion that everybody had been guessing about based on the previous stories. It doesn't even have to be conclusion that most people expect. In fact it's even better if it manages to tie up all the loose ends while surprising everyone.
 
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