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But the sorta reveal in 0.4 is that the NPCs are actually mind-controlled people.
Yep, and that reveal was a big one. I need to replay it but did it mention how or why everyone has the implants to begin with? From what I remember the mind-control is basically just rewriting their brain via the implant system, which is a dangerous slope to start down because with the proper adjustments it could be used on player characters too.

Anyone who developed that tech and didn't realize the logcal end point, i.e. mind-controlled players which could include themselves, is pretty naive.
 

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Yep, and that reveal was a big one. I need to replay it but did it mention how or why everyone has the implants to begin with? From what I remember the mind-control is basically just rewriting their brain via the implant system, which is a dangerous slope to start down because with the proper adjustments it could be used on player characters too.

Anyone who developed that tech and didn't realize the logcal end point, i.e. mind-controlled players which could include themselves, is pretty naive.
Well, any weapons can be used against yourself. That doesn't stop people from inventing new weapons in the real world, so I wouldn't call it naive.

It isn't explicitly stated in the dialogues why the NPCs have the implants, but one of the posts here have pointed out that a black NPC in 0.4 is the same as the black classmate that was killed in Eternum and then died in the real world in 0.1, so it is implied that getting killed by a Praetorian will get you mind-controlled.
 

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Well, any weapons can be used against yourself. That doesn't stop people from inventing new weapons in the real world, so I wouldn't call it naive.

It isn't explicitly stated in the dialogues why the NPCs have the implants, but one of the posts here have pointed out that a black NPC in 0.4 is the same as the black classmate that was killed in Eternum and then died in the real world in 0.1, so it is implied that getting killed by a Praetorian will get you mind-controlled.
I remember Axel was losing his marbles at the party. He thought Benjamin (the friend/bully/attempted rapist) was in witness protection or something like that, just before his father silenced him.
 

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I remember Axel was losing his marbles at the party. He thought Benjamin (the friend/bully/attempted rapist) was in witness protection or something like that, just before his father silenced him.
Oh really, I was too eager to see the Alex sex scene, I must have missed it.
 

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Oh really, I was too eager to see the Alex sex scene, I must have missed it.
The interaction between them takes place just before Alex's BJ scene. Alex's father was close by too smoking. Man would've gone savage if he had crossed paths with them.
 

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The interaction between them takes place just before Alex's BJ scene. Alex's father was close by too smoking. Man would've gone savage if he had crossed paths with them.
I know. I mean by the time the conversation started, I already knew there was an Alex sex scene coming, so I kinda glossed over the conversation xd.
 
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Lol. Willy Wonka almost killed some of his successor candidates, so the founder definitely could be pullying a Willy Wonka all along.

BTW if you re-read Willy Wonka as an adult it's pretty fucked up. I loved the book as a kid, but now it bothers me that Willy was a psuedo-slave owner...
I never read the book, is it interesting?

By the way all this obsession with slavery is a rather modern bias. The phenomenon should be undestood better and i'm positive some would be disappointed that there have been slavery right upon just anyone regardless skin color, original social position, supposed innate privilege and so on. And also that under some culture slavery was more of a temporary condition with a social role.
 

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Spectacular game, I had a lot of fun with the story, the whole plot is excellent, the characters with their backgrounds seem interesting to me. I'm going to tell some friends to play this play. 4.5/5
 
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I never read the book, is it interesting?

By the way all this obsession with slavery is a rather modern bias. The phenomenon should be undestood better and i'm positive some would be disappointed that there have been slavery right upon just anyone regardless skin color, original social position, supposed innate privilege and so on. And also that under some culture slavery was more of a temporary condition with a social role.
It's pretty funny. I've always been a fan of Roald Dhal, though that's probably due to childhood nostalgia. I mean, it's a children's novel, so it should be a real quick read.
 
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I never read the book, is it interesting?

By the way all this obsession with slavery is a rather modern bias. The phenomenon should be undestood better and i'm positive some would be disappointed that there have been slavery right upon just anyone regardless skin color, original social position, supposed innate privilege and so on. And also that under some culture slavery was more of a temporary condition with a social role.
Obsession with slavery is a modern bias??? Are you familiar with something called the civil war lol
 
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Obsession with slavery is a modern bias??? Are you familiar with something called the civil war lol
In the history of the world, that's modern. It was an accepted and frequently used social norm for millennia - there's a whole race of people that were enslaved so often, we get the term "slave" from them (the Slavs, in case you didn't make the connection).

In some parts of the world, it is still engaged in on a large scale. And, while there have always been people opposed (other than the slaves), it really has only been in the last few hundred years that there has been widespread and organized opposition. So, yeah, in the grand scheme of things: modern.
 

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In the history of the world, that's modern. It was an accepted and frequently used social norm for millennia - there's a whole race of people that were enslaved so often, we get the term "slave" from them (the Slavs, in case you didn't make the connection).

In some parts of the world, it is still engaged in on a large scale. And, while there have always been people opposed (other than the slaves), it really has only been in the last few hundred years that there has been widespread and organized opposition. So, yeah, in the grand scheme of things: modern.
Interesting point. And some nations abolished slavery between the 60s and early 70s. One specific country criminalized owning slaves in 2007, only after receiving intense international pressure. Not to mention certain terrorist organizations still engage in the "practice" in some parts of the world today.
 
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Interesting point. And some nations abolished slavery between the 60s and early 70s. One specific country criminalized owning slaves in 2007, only after receiving intense international pressure. Not to mention certain terrorist organizations still engage in the "practice" in some parts of the world today.
Middle East, China, some of the more lawless parts of Africa, it's still and "open secret". Even the "civilized" nations in Europe and the Americas have it, it's just underground. Yes, it's illegal, but it isn't gone - anywhere.
 

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They just gave it a more fancy, palatable name for the modern information era.

Human trafficking.


As for the people being kept as NPC's - it likely relates to the whole 'save us' plot-line, Syndicate may very well be people who were once alive, became trapped as NPC's, and then broke free 'Matrix Style' and are looking to stop being recaptured or somehow escape the system.

It was mentioned in a previous update that dead bodies remain in the 'game' until the user logs in again. If the user dies in real life too, or dies in game and never logs in again, what happens to that body?

Get your recycle on.
 

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I'm going to unapologetically go wildly off topic here for just a brief second, because I have read none of this thread (and possibly place some blame on my intoxication). Anyways, I just started up the game, and want to shout out my main fucking man Chang and his instant infatuation with Micaela. My man Chang is a gods damned MAN OF CULTURE, and I am suddenly deeply regretful of choosing Annie as my best friend in the bullshit first choice of the game solely in the name of tapping that ass.

Chang, you beautiful bastard, even if MC isn't jealous of your newfound living arrangements, I am.
 

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Obsession with slavery is a modern bias??? Are you familiar with something called the civil war lol
My point exactly.

When someone say 'slavery' (and no, it didn't occour to me the connection with the slav etnicity, though i well know that the rus traders used to enslave slavs among others, because when i think about slavery the word in my mind is 'schiavitù', i'm italian. It also has the slav root in it, but not so evident) they immediately restrict it to that nasty business with strong racial bases that happened in united states of america in the 19th century. Oh, and by the way, american civil war had a lot less to do with slavery and much more to do with the preferred model of economic development of the nation than school history wants people to think.

Slavery in general is a way broader phenomenon, which, in general, is by no mean connected with racism. Consider the medieval instituition of servitude, which was a de facto form of slavery, since a farmer in servitude condition had no liberty to leave the territory he was obliged to farm for his lord nor he could refuse to farm it and to perform other side jobs on request. It had no racial foundation at all. Serves where of the same people of lords and they might well have been former free men who fell in an economic crash. Like, for exemple, it happened in mesopotamian societies, where you could have been sold as slave as a mean of compensation for a debt you weren't able to repay. And since, by then, you had no mean to substain yourself and your owner was compelled and interested into taking some degree of care or you, that form of slavery had also a social value.

My point, by the way, is that slavery was not just something evil white men did to black people, the case because of it is a taboo word in modern culture. It has been there from the down of time and still happens today, since it's been estimated that today there are about 40 million slaves in the world, all in very non white countries, datas available upon browsing.
 

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This game shows how little things matter.

The girls switching between one telling the story of how you fought the samurai guy, while the other one nods is such a nice touch.

Such a little thing, but it somehow sold me on the game.
"-How much the little things matter"

What you typed makes it sound like the first part of your post is a cry for help lol.
 
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