VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.7.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[throwme]

I just started playing this game yesterday and love most of the aspects of the game (the unique premise, renders, comedy etc.), but I am starting to hate the useless MC who is getting stupider as the game progresses. I feel like the the story is rushed without giving enough time for character building and progression! Who in their right mind goes to a pvp server without any weapons or armor at lvl 0 and expects to keep a legendary item that he stupidly carries. For the sake of story and exposition the MC keeps doing stupid things and asking dumb questions. I guess this would be a way for the dev to add more tags as the brainless MC keeps getting into these situations where he can just spout bullsh*t but can't do sh*t.

It would have been nice to unravel the world of Eternum slowly as the MC learns about it, but noooo! lets skip that and we'll go straight to collecting the stones with 0 lvl, 0 weapon, 0 armor and hope that the brainless excuse for an MC can protect the stones, his friends and family. I wouldn't have minded this if he atleast learnt from this and decided to do something about it, but ofc not our MC has to always go dick first into these situations and forget about them after getting royally fcked, so lets rinse and repeat them till all the tags are included in the game. At this point I am rooting more for Thanatos.

Also, the amount of nonsense he spouts/thinks is also absurd and frustrating, the major plot points are ignored in favor of bs* comedy which feels cheap after the initial few times. What happened to the 1st phonebooth call? whats the point of the dreams if there are no followups? ofc who cares about them! lets forget that and instead see where the dick leads me. This also leads to inconsistency in characters as they keep doing out of character things to accommodate the lame comedy and rushed story. Which would be ok if it had lots of sex. But, it tries to do all and fulfill nothing.

I don't expect much from games on this site and I don't play them for great story, but I had enjoyed the beginning of the game and was expecting more from it, so it's frustrating to see it go downhill so fast. Maybe I am in a minority who feels this way. But, I do hope the 2nd half(which I am about to play) gets better.

 

[Dylan741]

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I would suggest you to play Once in a Lifetime the first Caribdis's game.
The MC there looked really goofy as well at first then... I don't want to spoil nothing to you, but if you really want to understand how Carbdis work, play OIAL and then re-think what happened in Eternum so far, Orion is less stupid than you think.

 

[Son of Durin]

I just started playing this game yesterday and love most of the aspects of the game (the unique premise, renders, comedy etc.), but I am starting to hate the useless MC who is getting stupider as the game progresses. I feel like the the story is rushed without giving enough time for character building and progression! Who in their right mind goes to a pvp server without any weapons or armor at lvl 0 and expects to keep a legendary item that he stupidly carries. For the sake of story and exposition the MC keeps doing stupid things and asking dumb questions. I guess this would be a way for the dev to add more tags as the brainless MC keeps getting into these situations where he can just spout bullsh*t but can't do sh*t.

It would have been nice to unravel the world of Eternum slowly as the MC learns about it, but noooo! lets skip that and we'll go straight to collecting the stones with 0 lvl, 0 weapon, 0 armor and hope that the brainless excuse for an MC can protect the stones, his friends and family. I wouldn't have minded this if he atleast learnt from this and decided to do something about it, but ofc not our MC has to always go dick first into these situations and forget about them after getting royally fcked, so lets rinse and repeat them till all the tags are included in the game. At this point I am rooting more for Thanatos.

Also, the amount of nonsense he spouts/thinks is also absurd and frustrating, the major plot points are ignored in favor of bs* comedy which feels cheap after the initial few times. What happened to the 1st phonebooth call? whats the point of the dreams if there are no followups? ofc who cares about them! lets forget that and instead see where the dick leads me. This also leads to inconsistency in characters as they keep doing out of character things to accommodate the lame comedy and rushed story. Which would be ok if it had lots of sex. But, it tries to do all and fulfill nothing.

I don't expect much from games on this site and I don't play them for great story, but I had enjoyed the beginning of the game and was expecting more from it, so it's frustrating to see it go downhill so fast. Maybe I am in a minority who feels this way. But, I do hope the 2nd half(which I am about to play) gets better.

Bless your heart!

 

[throwme]

I would suggest you to play Once in a Lifetime the first Caribdis's game.
The MC there looked really goofy as well at first then... I don't want to spoil nothing to you, but if you really want to understand how Carbdis work, play OIAL and then re-think what happened in Eternum so far, Orion is less stupid than you think.

You might be right and maybe I just jumped the gun, I'll add that OIAL to my list and push forward with this one to see where it leads. I hope it gets better from here. To be honest I was really loosing interest in it and was just going to unren it to check the later half.

 

[Dylan741]

You might be right and maybe I just jumped the gun, I'll add that OIAL to my list and push forward with this one to see where it leads. I hope it gets better from here. To be honest I was really loosing interest in it and was just going to unren it to check the later half.

It's understandable don't you worry, Caribdis is a careful planner OIAL started in a similar fashion with the MC looking like no more than a doofus, but as soon as the plot thickened well everything changed, and while he kept the humor, he grew as a character.
The same thing is happening with Orion, Caribdis is great on making the growth of their characters flow steadily as the story goes on, instead of making them looks like invincible gods from the start everything happen naturally, and that is way more believable imho.
It's one of his (many) forte.

 

[ArDZer]

I believe a warning should be given to players that haven't played Once in a Lifetime before they try Eternum. Maybe that'll help them understand how the developer creates the story around and the events that will follow after. And they better use the walkthrough in order to not miss any content and can enjoy the game at its full potential (in regards to the canon ending).

Edit: It'll also be helpful to those players who are faint of heart to get accustomed to the horror, given that both games have it.

 

[throwme]

It's understandable don't you worry, Caribdis is a careful planner OIAL started in a similar fashion with the MC looking like no more than a doofus, but as soon as the plot thickened well everything changed, and while he kept the humor, he grew as a character.
The same thing is happening with Orion, Caribdis is great on making the growth of their characters flow steadily as the story goes on, instead of making them looks like invincible gods from the start everything happen naturally, and that is way more believable imho.
It's one of his (many) forte.

I was not expecting an overpowered invincible god mc, but atleast a competent MC who can do something or learn from his mistakes and grow. The way I see it right now (till the mission with Nova and Alex) he is incompetent, inexperienced and overconfident (despite previous missions). He is very eager to pick fights in his real world and within game despite not having anything to backup against the overwhelming odds of the enemies. I believe you when you say that Caribdis would handle the character growth properly as I play along, but right now MC is already gunning for the end game when he has not even learnt to walk yet. Maybe it would have been more believable if the difference in strength wasn't this absurd in the beginning, I just hope there are not many as*pulls later to bridge the gap.

 

[throwme]

I believe a warning should be given to players that haven't played Once in a Lifetime before they try Eternum. Maybe that'll help them understand how the developer creates the story around and the events that will follow after. And they better use the walkthrough in order to not miss any content and can enjoy the game at its full potential (in regards to the canon ending).

So you think I should play that game before continuing with this? Is that game connected/prequel to this or just to understand the devs method of storytelling?

 

[jocoyo]

So most of the girls have at least one lewd scene already except Luna. Do you guys think it will happen anytime soon? Maybe at the day of the dead?
I know technically there is no lewd scene with Penelope either, but we did get to see her naked irl but with Luna only an illusion.

Since next update should include Luna's Day of the Dead party and Penelope's costume party, I think we're guaranteed a scene with both of them.

 

[sageproduct]

I believe a warning should be given to players that haven't played Once in a Lifetime before they try Eternum. Maybe that'll help them understand how the developer creates the story around and the events that will follow after. And they better use the walkthrough in order to not miss any content and can enjoy the game at its full potential (in regards to the canon ending).

Edit: It'll also be helpful to those players who are faint of heart given the horror that both games have.

Interesting, kind of like the idea, although I did play Eternum first, absolutely loved it, and then played Once in a Lifetime.

Also, starting Eternum, I thought Orion looked REALLY weird, but now it all just feels normal.

 

[BiggestDickest]

It's understandable don't you worry, Caribdis is a careful planner OIAL started in a similar fashion with the MC looking like no more than a doofus, but as soon as the plot thickened well everything changed, and while he kept the humor, he grew as a character.

The same thing is happening with Orion, Caribdis is great on making the growth of their characters flow steadily as the story goes on, instead of making them looks like invincible gods from the start everything happen naturally, and that is way more believable imho.

It's one of his (many) forte.

I actually think OIAL isn't very representative of what can be expected from Eternum. OIAL was a lot more traditional in terms of settings in that the MC had a dysfunctional father, sisters, mother, classmates that drool for him. The MC also, well, didn't grow that much over the course of the game. I mean, the only time he showed any supernatural powers was at the end.

Eternum is a lot closer to anime. You could see elements from Sword Art Online, Evangelion, Dragon Ball and so on. Those probably can give you a better idea of what's to expect in Eternum.

 

[ArDZer]

So you think I should play that game before continuing with this? Is that game connected/prequel to this or just to understand the devs method of storytelling?

There's connection, yes. Some characters from Once in a Lifetime are mentioned in certain parts of the story, a certain dangerous organization is also mentioned. There's even the secret ending:

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[Dylan741]

I was not expecting an overpowered invincible god mc, but atleast a competent MC who can do something or learn from his mistakes and grow. The way I see it right now (till the mission with Nova and Alex) he is incompetent, inexperienced and overconfident (despite previous missions). He is very eager to pick fights in his real world and within game despite not having anything to backup against the overwhelming odds of the enemies. I believe you when you say that Caribdis would handle the character growth properly as I play along, but right now MC is already gunning for the end game when he has not even learnt to walk yet. Maybe it would have been more believable if the difference in strength wasn't this absurd in the beginning, I just hope there are not many as*pulls later to bridge the gap.

And he do, Orion is a young man not an experienced man with years of wisdom on his shoulders, that a common mistake that many players do, they project their knowledge of how thing goes in game forgetting that the MC can't honestly be at that level.
Orion answered pretty well for someone that was pushed into a game bigger than him.
Remember that, aside of wanting to be inside Eternum he didn't have any experience in the game and, in a matter of few times he was able to be at the same level of more experienced players like Dalia, Anne and even Nova and Alex.
You mustn't forget he's still a kid not grown up man, and this make all the difference, as the game will progress he will be up to the task at hand.
And yes there's a tie between OIAL and Eternum, they are inside the same universe and you will see once you will play it, i would suggest you to stop Eternum ( if you didn't already finished it) and complete OIAL first, you will understand Caribdis MO more after.

 

[Dylan741]

I actually think OIAL isn't very representative of what can be expected from Eternum. OIAL was a lot more traditional in terms of settings in that the MC had a dysfunctional father, sisters, mother, classmates that drool for him. The MC also, well, didn't grow that much over the course of the game. I mean, the only time he showed any supernatural powers was at the end.

Eternum is a lot closer to anime. You could see elements from Sword Art Online, Evangelion, Dragon Ball and so on. Those probably can give you a better idea of what's to expect in Eternum.

I beg to disagree, instead he showed a growth during all the game, but I said it mostly to make him understand how Caribdis make the characters grow as the game progress, that's the most important part of my reasoning.
Of course that's my personal opinion, not a statement nor a "fact" as too many try to impose on the other users.

 

[BiggestDickest]

I beg to disagree, instead he showed a growth during all the game, but I said it mostly to make him understand how Caribdis make the characters grow as the game progress, that's the most important part of my reasoning.
Of course that's my personal opinion, not a statement nor a "fact" as too many try to impose on the other users.

Yeah I understand you were explaining that to him. I don't know, I just don't think the MC grew that much in OIAL, and that's not a bad thing to me, because solving a mystery is also a good story.

 

[Son of Durin]

I was not expecting an overpowered invincible god mc, but atleast a competent MC who can do something or learn from his mistakes and grow. The way I see it right now (till the mission with Nova and Alex) he is incompetent, inexperienced and overconfident (despite previous missions). He is very eager to pick fights in his real world and within game despite not having anything to backup against the overwhelming odds of the enemies. I believe you when you say that Caribdis would handle the character growth properly as I play along, but right now MC is already gunning for the end game when he has not even learnt to walk yet. Maybe it would have been more believable if the difference in strength wasn't this absurd in the beginning, I just hope there are not many as*pulls later to bridge the gap.

He's 18 and we're only a few weeks into things FFS! Were you all together and not a bit of a doofus at 18 and still in HS?

No need to answer - we know.

 

[throwme]

And he do, Orion is a young man not an experienced man with years of wisdom on his shoulders, that a common mistake that many players do, they project their knowledge of how thing goes in game forgetting that the MC can't honestly be at that level.
Orion answered pretty well for someone that was pushed into a game bigger than him.
Remember that, aside of wanting to be inside Eternum he didn't have any experience in the game and, in a matter of few times he was able to be at the same level of more experienced players like Dalia, Anne and even Nova and Alex.
You mustn't forget he's still a kid not grown up man, and this make all the difference, as the game will progress he will be up to the task at hand.
And yes there's a tie between OIAL and Eternum, they are inside the same universe and you will see once you will play it, i would suggest you to stop Eternum ( if you didn't already finished it) and complete OIAL first, you will understand Caribdis MO more after.

He's 18 and we're only a few weeks into things FFS! Were you all together and not a bit of a doofus at 18 and still in HS?

No need to answer - we know.

That's the thing, I just feel that the story is way too rushed where not enough time is put in char growth and just rushing towards end game. I just finished the part where they(the kids) are now planning for a

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without taking any time to gain any experience. I would agree with you both if they were not gunning for world changing events. But, then keeping that age in mind this would tell me that I should not take the story seriously as it would either go swimmingly (the mega corp is incompetent), fail badly(MC didn't learn anything) or it would be just comic with as*pulls. I would be glad to be proven wrong though.

In any case I don't hate the game, the production quality, renders and music everything is great which kind of raised my expectation for the story as well. Otherwise I would have just played it as multiple other harem academy stories on this site.

 

[lewd_boy]

Holy Shit!

I came for the fap and stayed for the story. For anyone who is downloading this game. Give it the time it deserves, go through the story. It has the fun stuff: animations models music everything about this game is legendary. The best part of the game is it's story, i'm truely intrigued.

I'm a fan now, honestly the story is soo good and there are some goofy bits but i enjoyed them. The horror sequence was so well crafter, you guys should be getting big budget. Loved the detective server story, top notch.

I started playing from v.04, where it ended is super interesting. Will be greatly anticipating future updates, keep rocking you guys.

 

[An known]

I was not expecting an overpowered invincible god mc, but atleast a competent MC who can do something or learn from his mistakes and grow. The way I see it right now (till the mission with Nova and Alex) he is incompetent, inexperienced and overconfident (despite previous missions). He is very eager to pick fights in his real world and within game despite not having anything to backup against the overwhelming odds of the enemies. I believe you when you say that Caribdis would handle the character growth properly as I play along, but right now MC is already gunning for the end game when he has not even learnt to walk yet. Maybe it would have been more believable if the difference in strength wasn't this absurd in the beginning, I just hope there are not many as*pulls later to bridge the gap.

I don't think the MC is incompetent I would say that the MC is unluckily lucky with his encounters, he occasionally witness absurd things for a Newbie that make him do aggressive approach to the game. I mean The first time he played the game he saw his classmate get exterminated, Second time he saw Thanatos, Third time he got a doom stone from a random mission an so on so forth . From this encounters a beginner like him would have died (And if you think "He doesn't learn from his mistakes" I think you're quite right I mean he is not IRON MAN and "Iron Man always learn from his mistakes"). He made some mistakes from the game like losing the gems and almost died but somehow he successfully pull off things like stealing in the Mansion (all thanks to Chang he should be given more credit) And he is learning from the people around if I were you I wouldn't jump on conclusions and I wouldn't say he is incompetent by the progress of the story the Game is just in version 0.4 and the story is not at the CLIMAX part it is just in the RISING part (because most of the is game it is just RISING and less Climaxing) ok all jokes aside Caribdis is good story maker and story teller I'm pretty sure it's just looks you're not liking the story but if wait a bit more you should expect something you wouldn't expect.
Give Caribdis sometime he is just a one man team (which I just learned earlier) and game is not at its peak yet and I'm sure you would enjoy it as the story keeps going.

 

[Dorfnutter]

No tutorial? Wasn't Penelope doing extensive research about the game and its play before logging in for the first time? Of course, yeah, that isn't an "in-game", but, still...

Yeah, I meant in-game. IRL manuals are cool and all, but I argue that immersive sims/VRMMOs should teach players by letting them do shit in a closed environment while teaching them the ropes instead of making them read before playing. Gives them time to get used to the system and all, while keeping them from potentially getting killed on the first day.

Of course, this is a VN and this also adds fuel to the "Eternum isn't actually a videogame" theory, but from a videogame design standpoint, the entire thing just feels archaic to me, NGL.

I just started playing this game yesterday and love most of the aspects of the game (the unique premise, renders, comedy etc.), but I am starting to hate the useless MC who is getting stupider as the game progresses. I feel like the the story is rushed without giving enough time for character building and progression! Who in their right mind goes to a pvp server without any weapons or armor at lvl 0 and expects to keep a legendary item that he stupidly carries.

If this is about him losing the Gem of Doom to Ol' Thanny, it was mentioned that they had no idea if it was a genuine Gem of Doom so they probably didn't think much about protecting it or keeping it safe. It was only after it was stolen did Orion (MC) realize that it was the real deal, so there's that.

Also it was explained that levels don't do squat in this game. They act more like the faction/PvP rep system in World of Warcraft where if you level it you gain access to certain items and spells...but stat-wise your IRL skills and physical attributes are the ones that will determine if you get an edge early on or not because your stats stay the same regardless of your level.

It would have been nice to unravel the world of Eternum slowly as the MC learns about it, but noooo! lets skip that and we'll go straight to collecting the stones with 0 lvl, 0 weapon, 0 armor and hope that the brainless excuse for an MC can protect the stones, his friends and family. I wouldn't have minded this if he atleast learnt from this and decided to do something about it, but ofc not our MC has to always go dick first into these situations and forget about them after getting royally fcked, so lets rinse and repeat them till all the tags are included in the game. At this point I am rooting more for Thanatos.

...But collecting the stones IS the plot (along with solving Benjie's mysterious death). It's basically Eternum's MSQ (with a Ready Player One-esque reward attached to it). We get to learn about the world as time goes on, but at the moment the MC's main focus around 0.1-0.2 is...well, to play the game and hopefully that will let him gain access to more prestigious locales/events that will help him get to the bottom of Benjie's mysterious death (the plan being provided to him by Nova in 0.2, where she mentioned about the prestigious party with the Ulysses top brass and the holders of the gems of doom...get a gem, get access to the party, start snooping).

the major plot points are ignored in favor of bs* comedy which feels cheap after the initial few times. What happened to the 1st phonebooth call? whats the point of the dreams if there are no followups? ofc who cares about them! lets forget that and instead see where the dick leads me.

Friendly reminder that MC's overall motivation is to basically date and get laid while he's in Kredon (or are we forgetting the train convo with Chang at the very start of the game?). Everything else beyond that is him willing to try out new experiences and sating his curiosity about shit.

Also, the dreams come back...eventually.