VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.7.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[T1NKYW1NKY]

In the story it might make sense, but in the game universe how do you farm stuff if you don't play on the same server each time? Stuff is not cross server afaik, with exception for the legendary weapons

there may be other exceptions. If I remember correctly, Annie's floating swords were introduced in Ion and when you went to Red Herring she also had them equipped right? Same with the Pendant of Destiny. If that was what you bought from Chop2x it reappears during the Space Station sequence. At the end of the day, it will vary from server to server as to what items are limited

 

[MagnusTempestus6]

So when that time with Calypso comes, it'll happen. But now I wonder if there's a remote possibility that those two might have offspring. Could that happen? Just curiosity (iirc Calypso did found the idea of a love story between an elf and a human forbidden yet hot).

Well, we have seen Caribdis' take on pregnant LIs that are not part of the main harem.

Spoiler: for OiaL

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[Elhemeer]

If Eva still works at Aphrodite's that is. I do wish the game goes back to Ion. That was a sick cyberpunk place and the only reason we went there was because Annie wanted to gift us a sword. Also, it'd probably be funny if Eva was like "hey there MC" and the internal panic that ensues when MC tries to explain how him and Eva met hahaha

I thought it was implied in the scene at Aphrodite's that they might be on multiple servers as well, so (if correct) a reunion with Eva wouldn't even have to be back in Ion. But yea, that's exactly what I meant by story-driven. I can't imagine he'd go back by himself ... there's no point for it at juncture of the story. There would have to be a reason, and it would be unlikely for him to go back without one of the girls there with him.

 

[someyoungguy]

In the story it might make sense, but in the game universe how do you farm stuff if you don't play on the same server each time? Stuff is not cross server afaik, with exception for the legendary weapons

The only stuff that hasn't been cross server so far have been items or abilities that are specifically forbidden in a server, and the usual explanation so far has been that the player still has the items or abilities, at least in some sense, but they are either inaccessible or unusable on a server where forbidden. For items, so far, it has varied a bit whether a disabled item was inaccessible in a player's inventory or just unusable in a server where it was forbidden. For the most part, though, it seems that the game primarily leans toward a player still having everything but is just unable to use forbidden items or abilities

 

[Dorfnutter]

The only stuff that hasn't been cross server so far have been items or abilities that are specifically forbidden in a server, and the usual explanation so far has been that the player still has the items or abilities, at least in some sense, but they are either inaccessible or unusable on a server where forbidden.

Spoiler: There are exceptions though...

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Sometimes I wonder though if it's the system placed by Ulysses that prevents cross-server use of stuff like items and/or magic...or it's the nature of the servers themselves (this is assuming one subscribes to the theory that Eternum is the Astral Plane/Nexus to various realities/worlds). Like in "Re: Creators" where it's explained (though not really put into play until the end of the anime) that the logic of the "world of the creators/real world" tends to correct anything that it perceives as illogical, hence magic users or anyone with superhuman abilities that cross over into the "world of the creators" eventually lose their ability to use magic as long as they stay there. Only in the case of the servers/worlds of Eternum, the effect is instantaneous and you can't go against the logic of the world so long as you're in that world...unless you're a being or an item or an ability that defies/bypasses said logic.

 

[T1NKYW1NKY]

Spoiler: There are exceptions though...

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Sometimes I wonder though if it's the system placed by Ulysses that prevents cross-server use of stuff like items and/or magic...or it's the nature of the servers themselves (this is assuming one subscribes to the theory that Eternum is the Astral Plane/Nexus to various realities/worlds). Like in "Re: Creators" where it's explained (though not really put into play until the end of the anime) that the logic of the "world of the creators/real world" tends to correct anything that it perceives as illogical, hence magic users or anyone with superhuman abilities that cross over into the "world of the creators" eventually lose their ability to use magic as long as they stay there. Only in the case of the servers/worlds of Eternum, the effect is instantaneous and you can't go against the logic of the world so long as you're in that world...unless you're a being or an item or an ability that defies/bypasses said logic.

Another thing that bugs me is if there are thousands of servers, are all of them made by Ulysses or are there other servers made by users.


Dalia's private server for example. It needs a password and probably a direct invite for those that have none. Did she set-up the password herself? Did the server come with its own security measures already? If Dalia set up the password, it also makes sense for her to make other security measures to make sure it's safe. Then again if you did tell Chang the password which leads to the beach party, the intruders just seem fine to me. And she got real mad about it like it was the end of the world which leads me to think that the password cannot be changed. The training server during the college party section as well was interesting. Dying inside it does not penalize the player since it was set-up to test stuff. I honestly believe that the players that have private servers have all authority (maybe right next to Ulysses and the praetorians) to do whatever they want with it.

 

[quorkboy]

Cross-Server Inventory

I am confident that you can take items from one server to another. The only restrictions I recall are on specific items (not necessarily legendary items) and abilities that are not supposed to be accessible or usable on certain servers. Whether is is explicitly programmed in or a consequence of the type of world represented by that server is unclear.

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The concept of Eternum wouldn't work if you couldn't take things to a different server. Eternum appears designed to explore wherever you want. Preventing carrying over inventory goes against that. People would gravitate to specific servers which appeal most to their tastes, and stay there once they've achieved any decent level of success.

Eva

I would love to see Eva again. But if it happens I don't expect it would be at Aphrodite's. From what she said, that wasn't a regular gig for her, and she didn't know how long she would play that part.

Where I'd really like the meeting to happen is in the non-Eternum world. That's tricky, you have to think of how could it be possible that they recognise each other. But Eternum is huge, from what I've seen it's bigger than outside Eternum, making it even more a coincidence (unless there is a story reason) for them to be in the same location on the same server. What I like about the real world meeting is that it would be nice to see who Eva is outside Eternum, and also it's a good setup for the 'Remember how we met at Aphrodite's? What a fun time that was!' revelation.

Who Made The Servers?

One of the central mysteries of Eternum. It's feasible that Ulysses created everything. But it's been at least hinted that users can create servers. I don't remember specifics, but something was said about it being expensive, requiring specialised hardware, and extensive programming knowledge, so only a select few are in a position to do it. A small server like Dalia's might be easier and cheaper, and more likely to be made by a regular user (one who is financially comfortable, no doubt, but not necessarily wealthy). But why? Didn't she win the server? Why would a user make a server like that, then give it away? But Ulysses making and giving away small private servers as incentives for people to play, that makes sense.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Another thing that bugs me is if there are thousands of servers, are all of them made by Ulysses or are there other servers made by users.


Dalia's private server for example. It needs a password and probably a direct invite for those that have none. Did she set-up the password herself? Did the server come with its own security measures already? If Dalia set up the password, it also makes sense for her to make other security measures to make sure it's safe. Then again if you did tell Chang the password which leads to the beach party, the intruders just seem fine to me. And she got real mad about it like it was the end of the world which leads me to think that the password cannot be changed. The training server during the college party section as well was interesting. Dying inside it does not penalize the player since it was set-up to test stuff. I honestly believe that the players that have private servers have all authority (maybe right next to Ulysses and the praetorians) to do whatever they want with it.

Who Made The Servers?

One of the central mysteries of Eternum. It's feasible that Ulysses created everything. But it's been at least hinted that users can create servers. I don't remember specifics, but something was said about it being expensive, requiring specialised hardware, and extensive programming knowledge, so only a select few are in a position to do it. A small server like Dalia's might be easier and cheaper, and more likely to be made by a regular user (one who is financially comfortable, no doubt, but not necessarily wealthy). But why? Didn't she win the server? Why would a user make a server like that, then give it away? But Ulysses making and giving away small private servers as incentives for people to play, that makes sense.

Story at Warthogs heavily imply that private servers are just sold/given to users and they pretty much do anything they want with it (likely comes with stuff like server access and being able to set up the password for entry). This likely is not the case with public servers like Ion or Andromeda, where you can likely buy land/property/equipment/vehicles/mounts and set-up your business and shit but nothing more beyond that.

And even if you do own a server, you can't "change" it beyond what's logically allowable. Like, you could probably build a settlement and/or locations and set rules for players to follow. But if you plan to go full dev mode and change it completely (like, warp the environment or turn it into a different kind of server (like, if it was sold to you as a sci-fi server but now you want it to be revamped as a full-on fantasy server)), then that's likely not possible.

Spoiler: At least, that's what this guy seems to be implying when we talked to him at the party.

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[quorkboy]

Dalia's private server for example. It needs a password and probably a direct invite for those that have none. Did she set-up the password herself? Did the server come with its own security measures already? If Dalia set up the password, it also makes sense for her to make other security measures to make sure it's safe. Then again if you did tell Chang the password which leads to the beach party, the intruders just seem fine to me. And she got real mad about it like it was the end of the world which leads me to think that the password cannot be changed. The training server during the college party section as well was interesting. Dying inside it does not penalize the player since it was set-up to test stuff. I honestly believe that the players that have private servers have all authority (maybe right next to Ulysses and the praetorians) to do whatever they want with it.

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[An known]

Another thing that bugs me is if there are thousands of servers, are all of them made by Ulysses or are there other servers made by users.


Dalia's private server for example. It needs a password and probably a direct invite for those that have none. Did she set-up the password herself? Did the server come with its own security measures already? If Dalia set up the password, it also makes sense for her to make other security measures to make sure it's safe. Then again if you did tell Chang the password which leads to the beach party, the intruders just seem fine to me. And she got real mad about it like it was the end of the world which leads me to think that the password cannot be changed. The training server during the college party section as well was interesting. Dying inside it does not penalize the player since it was set-up to test stuff. I honestly believe that the players that have private servers have all authority (maybe right next to Ulysses and the praetorians) to do whatever they want with it.

As for Dalia's private server, I'm pretty sure she didn't set-up the password. As it was said here:

She got it as a reward, and the password is the only to way have access to it, that means it isn't changeable.(and if she can change it she would change the original password, I mean if you got a reward like an account the first thing I'll do is change it, so it makes sense that she can't change it) She also say that it was just an island and she is the only one who have access to it so security measures is really unnecessary.

As for the Server at the Party.
Nova said that it was "one of the Private servers".

So there is a lot of private servers and we know they can be only accessed by a few players, but it was never mentioned that they created it.

And as for the private servers, there's a slight chance that every private servers has different functions and rules, The server that Akira had has a function or rules that dying won't affect you and as for Dalia it's just a beach.

 

[quorkboy]

Story at Warthogs seems to heavily imply that private servers are just sold/given to users and they pretty much do anything they want with it (likely comes with stuff like server access and being able to set up the password for entry). This likely is not the case with public servers like Ion or Andromeda, where you can likely buy land/property/equipment/vehicles/mounts and set-up your business and shit but nothing more beyond that.

And even if you do own a server, you can't "change" it beyond what's logically allowable. Like, you could probably build a settlement and/or locations and set rules for players to follow. But if you plan to go full dev mode and change it completely (like, warp the environment or turn it into a different kind of server (like, if it was sold to you as a sci-fi server but now you want it to be revamped as a full-on fantasy server)), then that's likely not possible.

It would make sense that a server owner cannot do whatever they want, such as making themselves immortal, or creating challenges that players could never win. That would be unfair. Even if they were building their own servers on top of base code (so they could make whatever world type they want, fantasy, sci-fi, cyberpunk, …), rather than being given/sold one with a predefined world type by Ulysses, the base code would not be theirs to modify, and would contain restrictions on what they could do in their own code.

A good hacker might be able to decompile the code and modify it, and get the modified code installed on their server, but Ulysses would have systems in place to detect servers running with base code modifications. The server would be swiftly shut down and the player banned from Eternum.

 

[Deleted member 5730975]

Who Made The Servers?

One of the central mysteries of Eternum. It's feasible that Ulysses created everything. But it's been at least hinted that users can create servers. I don't remember specifics, but something was said about it being expensive, requiring specialised hardware, and extensive programming knowledge, so only a select few are in a position to do it. A small server like Dalia's might be easier and cheaper, and more likely to be made by a regular user (one who is financially comfortable, no doubt, but not necessarily wealthy). But why? Didn't she win the server? Why would a user make a server like that, then give it away? But Ulysses making and giving away small private servers as incentives for people to play, that makes sense.

Annie had mentioned in the very first server that creating a server is expensive etc. However I dont think Annie really knew what she was talking about and these may just be rumors she has heard. I am far more inclined to believe the strange guy we met at the party so I do not think regular users can create servers. Additionally the game seems to be leaning more towards fantasy as of the last couple of updates - we had that stargazing scene with Alex, the scene with the strange guy in the party and the reveal with Thanatos at the end of the last update. All of this makes me think there is a bit more to it.

 

[quorkboy]

Annie had mentioned in the very first server that creating a server is expensive etc. However I dont think Annie really knew what she was talking about and these may just be rumors she has heard. I am far more inclined to believe the strange guy we met at the party so I do not think regular users can create servers. Additionally the game seems to be leaning more towards fantasy as of the last couple of updates - we had that stargazing scene with Alex, the scene with the strange guy in the party and the reveal with Thanatos at the end of the last update. All of this makes me think there is a bit more to it.

I am certain there is a lot we don't know, and more to Eternum than has been revealed. But I wouldn't pin my conclusions on cryptic statements by a guy we met at a party. He clearly knows something, but we never had the chance to find out what.

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I don't know that we can say the story is going in any clear direction, re: fantasy vs cyberspace. So far, everything happening could be explained by either.

 

[T1NKYW1NKY]

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Yeah I do get that as well. That was a very personal matter to her. Something she'd do only to people who she trusts enough as well.

 

[Saladassasin]

Just finish the game or update, Man what a ride, this game is massive improvement of their previous game OIALT, the joke are less but much more funny and get a laugh out of me more(I love tachos super spicy scene, and Michel Darksoul reference, that shit was hilarious), and the 3d model are awesome, I know that the DEV are pushing it hard to get this result, the only game before I play this that I consider good looking game are Being A DIK, The_DeLuca_Family, The_Office, Treasure of Nadia, but this game is something else. lately I play game just to relax are not just fab and be done with it, So this is the few games that actually make me feel something whatever it's a joke or fear (Get a picture of girl mom). all and all 9.5/10 GG

 

[Son of Durin]

Who Made The Servers?

Isn't it obvious?

Spoiler: They were all made by the same world creator:

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[jocoyo]

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Btw it's not Chang who throws the party, I'm pretty sure it's Dalia's boxing opponent who overhears the password and throws the party. Just want people to know that even in these alternate universes, my boy Chang would never betray us.

 

[quorkboy]

Btw it's not Chang who throws the party, I'm pretty sure it's Dalia's boxing opponent who overhears the password and throws the party. Just want people to know that even in these alternate universes, my boy Chang would never betray us.

I inferred, obviously incorrectly, from what I knew. I never checked that path because I had no interest in knowing what would happen if I betrayed Dalia's trust. I should have known better than to think Chang would do something like that.

 

[Deleted member 3596310]

Interdimensional cousins born of the universes of literature, cinema and video-games...

 

[shucia]

I personally think she's hot so hopefully there is another encounter/scene with her later