VN Ren'Py Exciting Games [Ep. 16 Part 2] [Guter Reiter]

[slightchance]

Doesn't have to end in cheating but one of the hallmarks of human interactions are communication errors. Steve could signal one thing and she could misinterpret it differently which leads to something naughtier than anticipated. Then they talk about it afterwards and everything is back to 'normal' again.

 

[defd©™]

That's from the dev.

Nicole will never cheat on her husband.

I never said she will cheat on her husband ...
i just said she's having sex without her husband being present
that is already happened.

however the difference between cheating and ntr is really tenuous for me in the part already developed.

I don't think this is going to be a super long story but I deff don't think any cheating will happen.

I don't like to make predictions about the evolution of the story because it could be an unwitting spoiler
I prefer to leave what will happen to the writer's skill and wait for the next releases
.... if your spoiler is right will be a pity because the story has just begun after 13 chapter is going to end?

you're basically admitting that if the story evolves in the direction it's taken ... Nicole will start cheating on him?!
it would be like saying that the writer was wrong and made a mistake in writing this story.

I do not want want spoiler but. your post seems to be a SPOILER. it seems you are asking for an early end of the story

Personally I hope that the story will be super long and maybe with a sequel. and why not also a prequel because for sure Nicole characters is very very interesting.

 

[defd©™]

There is a difference between self inserting in a character and roleplaying.

Roleplaying is between the couple in the story and has noting to do with the player (me)

Maybe I'm wrong but for me what differentiates a story written for a game from a similar written for a book or a movie is interactivity!
books and movies are not interactive.
This means that in a game the real protagonist is the player ... ME (or you)!
The skill of a game developer must be to allow the player to find the story that comes closest to his or her personal taste. aand the more paths in the game the better

This is why I love games starring a woman
it is true that in real life females break my balls so much that I often prefer to be alone (except for the initial love story)

at least with a well done interactive game, I can have their destiny in my hand and I can make her do things that if we were in real life I would definitely be arrested...

The purpose of interactive games is just that ... if you feel like shooting someone buy a war or crime game ...
this is very healthy and avoid getting divorced and paying alimony to my wife or going to jail for taking her out...
if I just wanted a story of NTR or sex ... there are thousands of tv series and even porn movies written by professional writers.

 

[defd©™]

If the dev has said there will be no cheating then there will be no cheating.

Changing mind demonstrates creativity and foresight ... the best change their minds
whoever stands still will always be limited by himself.

 

[Puma1978]

Changing mind demonstrates creativity and foresight ... the best change their minds
whoever stands still will always be limited by himself.

Yes and ntr also where at the end by olayers choice nicole will end up with her ex and the husband with his hot colleague.....

 

[defd©™]

This is not a netorare game. This is netorase.

netorase is NTR without cheating?
I really don't care about the genre because dividing an artistic expression by genre is a limiting factor.

But she had already sex without the husband presence just because I have select that "warning" choice!
I am the one who moves the strings of the events

That is why after waiting for years I love this game

 

[NewTricks]

netorase is NTR without cheating?
I really don't care about the genre because dividing an artistic expression by genre is a limiting factor.

But she had already sex without the husband presence just because I have select that "warning" choice!
I am the one who moves the strings of the events

That is why after waiting for years I love this game

Yeah, they are both NTR. They are just subgenres. The former is where the husband gets off on the jealousy, humiliation, and the thought that he is going to lose his love more than he does being with his wife. Often the wife will be reluctant or even unwilling in these scenarios. I don't think that this game is that. Games that focus on swinging and voyeurism are always vulnerable to this comparison, but this game is more geared toward demonstrating that their relationship is strong and their activities are to their mutual benefit.

 

[Puma1978]

netorase is NTR without cheating?
I really don't care about the genre because dividing an artistic expression by genre is a limiting factor.

But she had already sex without the husband presence just because I have select that "warning" choice!
I am the one who moves the strings of the events

That is why after waiting for years I love this game
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U mean the scene with the yung boys when the husband dont stay inside right?
Just to make sure i didnt missed something...;-)

 

[defd©™]

Often the wife will be reluctant or even unwilling in these scenarios. I don't think that this game is that. Games that focus on swinging and voyeurism are always vulnerable to this comparison, but this game is more geared toward demonstrating that their relationship is strong and their activities are to their mutual benefit.

I agree with you
demonstrating the strong of their relationship is just what I'm looking for and if cheating is a word that can destroy the couple this mean their relationship is not so strong as it was supposed to be

and here the wife is the opposite of reluctant.. she loves teasing Steve, other men and strangers
she as the willpower and she is also protagonist on her own scenes.. that's perfect

I really don't care about NTR .. I'm just focus to a good story with a progression that will not be limited by the cheating word..
I think she just cheated on Steve in some scene like the one in the pics i uploaded


maybe is not cheating because she does not allow her to fuck the delivery guy?
For sure she has the willpower to allow that guy to jerk on her body by showing him her breast and as protagonist was she to decide to stop or go further. (allow to jerk on her body is not cheating?)
She also does not even mention to Steve that scene.

I'm really interested in Nicole as MC and I hope she will be no limited by stupid promises or genre words like NTR cheating or whatever.

A great character must have free wings to attract more and more people and for sure Nicole is a super attractive model

I really hope to see the chapter 20 of this great story

The game is still in starting phase for me!

 

[Puma1978]

I agree with you
demonstrating the strong of their relationship is just what I'm looking for and if cheating is a word that can destroy the couple this mean their relationship is not so strong as it was supposed to be

and here the wife is the opposite of reluctant.. she loves teasing Steve, other men and strangers
she as the willpower and she is also protagonist on her own scenes.. that's perfect

I really don't care about NTR .. I'm just focus to a good story with a progression that will not be limited by the cheating word..
I think she just cheated on Steve in some scene like the one in the pics i uploaded
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maybe is not cheating because she does not allow her to fuck the delivery guy?
For sure she has the willpower to allow that guy to jerk on her body by showing him her breast and as protagonist was she to decide to stop or go further. (allow to jerk on her body is not cheating?)
She also does not even mention to Steve that scene.

I'm really interested in Nicole as MC and I hope she will be no limited by stupid promises or genre words like NTR cheating or whatever.

A great character must have free wings to attract more and more people and for sure Nicole is a super attractive model

I really hope to see the chapter 20 of this great story

The game is still in starting phase for me!

I agree...i think its complex to create a character and let him develope the way how the player sets choices. But mostly these are the best games if you see that characters start to change behaviors and my a choice in the future gets locked or unlocked because of this. And of course this could lead to cheating or maybe also that character suddenly feels more attracted to other persons or anything else..some games are really close to that already but they dont set the trigger for future behavior development on a logic way..

 

[uniformless]

Again and again and again the same topic about including cheating.

Did I really read "changing mind is creativity"? So, if the dev suddenly change his mind and decide to include cheating like the hundred of already existing games with the same theme instead of doing something original like he's doing actually, it would be called "creativity"? Really?!

Can't you think outside the box for this theme instead of wanting to repeat the same pattern we've already seen a hundred of time?

Can't you see how going to this path would in fact limit the number of possibility by throwing away all the original story the dev actually set? A story with trust, faithful without betrayal.

 

[Adviar5050]

The developer just posted today a poll today which I found interesting. He asked if we want the story told more from Steve’s perspective or the wife’s perspective or both. Right now the leader is both which I think is the best way to tell the story. You not only hear what they say but you know what they think which in this type of story is mandatory. What does everyone think?

 

[packard1928]

both

 

[rlduck]

The developer just posted today a poll today which I found interesting. He asked if we want the story told more from Steve’s perspective or the wife’s perspective or both. Right now the leader is both which I think is the best way to tell the story. You not only hear what they say but you know what they think which in this type of story is mandatory. What does everyone think?

Both for sure

 

[Puma1978]

The developer just posted today a poll today which I found interesting. He asked if we want the story told more from Steve’s perspective or the wife’s perspective or both. Right now the leader is both which I think is the best way to tell the story. You not only hear what they say but you know what they think which in this type of story is mandatory. What does everyone think?

Ii think both makes it more interesting....i think its immersive if u also show what thinks the wife and what thinks the husband during an exciting game...or like other devs are also doing it ...u can choose at beginning experience the game from wifes or husbands perspective...but this would make it maybe complicated but if good made it can be very interesting to try more than one playthrough..

 

[OllisNews]

I know "The Neverending Story". It's always a fine line and you can fall deep. I voted for togetherness (see Patreon). The story still has so much potential, I think it will stay with us for a long time.

 

[defd©™]

The developer just posted today a poll today which I found interesting. He asked if we want the story told more from Steve’s perspective or the wife’s perspective or both. Right now the leader is both which I think is the best way to tell the story. You not only hear what they say but you know what they think which in this type of story is mandatory. What does everyone think?

Unfortunately when a developer starts a poll to ask people how to his own story should continue, that's a bad sign because it highlights that they'd like to please everyone.
Pleasing everyone is impossible!
In this case I really suggest voting for "dev must continue with his original plot inspiration!"

so if in the poll there is this third option it is certainly the best for the sense of the story that must reflect and excite the writer. (a Writer can't develops a story that he don' like)

I have seen many beautiful stories abandoned and they have been abandoned precisely because if an artist follows too much the advices of players, he should lose interest and no longer recognizes the story he wanted to write as his own.

My suggestion to avoid this is just split in 2 different Main paths the storyline creating a real interective story where the player can be in command about the destiny of this couple.

if well developed "Exiting Game" could become a masterpiece.
PS: I hope that developer will replay that poll also in F95.

 

[defd©™]

The developer just posted today a poll today which I found interesting. He asked if we want the story told more from Steve’s perspective or the wife’s perspective or both. Right now the leader is both which I think is the best way to tell the story. You not only hear what they say but you know what they think which in this type of story is mandatory. What does everyone think?

there is way to see all the options avaiable in that poll?

 

[Adviar5050]

Its only three choices. Steve's perspective, Nicole's perspective or both

 

[Adviar5050]

The developer has stated numerous times that he is really new to this and he wants feedback from his patreons on how things are going. I understand your statement but I find it refreshing to see a developer who wants to interact with the people who support him. Just remember just because people may vote one way or another it doesn't mean he has to go that way.