The lack of transparency is in the fact that ProjectH gave no distinction between a Closed Beta Test and Early Access through public announcement channels. Generally the words "Early Access" indicate an Alpha/Beta of the final product.
Or people simply don't like the direction the game is going. I liked the original concept, an always online MMO sex game on the other hand doesn't interest me at all. I'd love to hear what og Fallen Doll backers think about what it turned into.
Except "og" backers matter very little in the greater scheme of things. This is a business and not a charity. Project H need to appeal to what ever makes their business grow and their current direction is doing that well. Their point is to generate content to make money. They have attracted talent from from Ubisoft, Activision, and others from all over the world. Money is the point; not pleasing their original backers. 20 "og" people are not valued compared to 20,000 current people bringing in an income so they can work on their dream.
People that fund this are patrons, not buyers of a product. You should go in expecting to get nothing in return. There have been many scams from Kickstarter, IndieGoGo, and Patreon. In my eyes, this has been a very successful campaign.Google's definition of a Patron said:
What dream? You just said the only point of the game is to generate as much money as possible.
That is the point of any company. Again, they are not a charity.
Because they make a nice product in a very niche market.
No, you didn't read my words. If the 20 "og" wanted something and they other 300 didn't, then the originals shouldn't get their way. It doesn't make economical sense to push away the other 300. A company should go in the direction that the majority want the product to go in. The majority are very content with harem mode. That is validated due to their patron count going up. Basically their opinion is "fuck the few who don't care." Honestly, this will convert a few pirates that really want this and the others didnt want it enough are left out. Oh well.
They are indie devs, not EA. If they suddenly loose 5k patrons then they are suddenly letting staff go. EA has deep pockets and can survive. They have not made any shady decisions that I can recall. projectheliu is very up front and gives updates every few days and nearly every patron is content with the direction that the game is going in. Most of the complaints are on this forum and I'm willing to bet almost everyone here isn't a patron and is just upset that they lost their free game.
That's kinda my impression. For the record, I haven't subbed to their patreon for most of the hiatus, just 2 subs for the skins I wanted, the rest was my sub for the key a while ago. It's not like I'm a huge PH supporter, but the amount of bickering here is insane.
Sure. How about the freaking FAQ.The lack of transparency is in the fact that ProjectH gave no distinction between a Closed Beta Test and Early Access through public announcement channels. Generally the words "Early Access" indicate an Alpha/Beta of the final product.
The only time ProjectH has mentioned this distinction is in random posts on the Discord server.
If they have mentioned this distinction in a public announcement, please link it and I will gladly admit I was wrong.
It's like every single possible criticism of PH is met with canned responses of "money is always right", "you're probably a mad pirate", or "even if you aren't a pirate your opinion doesn't matter anyway". You've created this scenario where PH is always right and anyone who disagrees with anything they do is always wrong regardless of who they are or their specific grievance. Like if I lived somewhere with spotty internet and losing connectivity is my specific problem with the direction they took the game "Patreon is going up so clearly nobody who pays has that problem, if you're not paying you're probably a pirate, and either way your opinion doesn't matter because the majority don't share it".
I'm all for criticizing PH, but the point is: what is there to criticize?
Yes, that is correct; capitalism. You want them to operate a different way and that doesn't benefit the projectheliu team. They are out to make money and if wasn't that way then it most likely would be an open source github project, if they even had interest in still developing it. But that isn't how it is because they are in it for their enjoyment and money.
You're delusional if you think that the existence of an auto cracker specifically is the reason they went down the route of online only content.
You're delusional if you think it's not part of the reason. He didn't say it was the ONLY reason, but it's a great one.
Now careful with this way of thinking there, it could doom you. More money doesn't mean they are obliged to make more for you. And to you, you can cancel your patronage and doesn't care anymore, but to other it is an insult, and they have right to feel insult. So you can stop forced your way of view on other people, cuz no one totally right, no one totally wrong
It's a major reason and it's been discussed in their Discord. Do you really think they want to let people have their product for free? They develop this for money and people take it for nothing. Come on now.
And........some outfits.......i know this but again, this is not a new version with something actually new for other to play, some will complain, and they are not wrong either.
They are not obligated to provide a new version every single month. The only obligation they have, per Patreon, is to show that some progress has been attempted/made. They are fulfilling that obligation frequently via Patreon and every few days on Discord. And almost no one is complaining about not having a new version to play. Nearly every complaint is coming from this forum.
Actually no, they have no obligation to show you anything, cuz you just donate your money to them, they are not selling anything actually
