Thread title should be changed to Fallen Doll: Operation Whale. $40 indie game, $1000's of dollars of individual DLC, an inevitable monthly (Patreon) subscription fee, and consumable paid boosters.
And this is complex to achieve nothing what they do is complex and mostly all of it done by EPIC themselves.In fact, this game caused a "Wow effect" literally in the first month or two after I saw it. The main distinguishing feature was the high-quality study of models and animations, as well as the presence of monsters / tentacles. But all this gets boring very quickly and is leveled by the complete absence of any customization. A silly set of looped animations. Starting somewhere from update 0.28 - 0.30, I went into the game 1-2 times (from update to update).
There is a great example of the game: True Facials [v0.4 Pro] [HenryTaiwan]. 2 locations, 3 female models and one male, but!!! Costomization of the growth of perosnazh, breast / penis size, depth of penetration, speed, sharpness, and most importantly-complete freedom in setting the position of body parts. Put it in any position that you can think of yourself. 500+ mb and made by one person. These are not fairy tales from Helius and his "team". He is an empty talker
Their piracy "concerns" are a simple excuse to justify their shady practices.
At no point throughout the whole of gaming history, spanning now some 50 years, has anyone been able to definitely prove that piracy causes any actual financial harm to a company. People that weren't going to buy the game aren't going to do so just because said game is not obtainable illegally - they'll just move on and find something else to pirate.
As many others have stated, my main concern is that the developers expect us to buy a game where the majority of the content is server-side, and when they permanently shut the servers down you don't have access to all the content you've paid for (and trust me, you'll be paying a lot for new characters, sets, costumes, animations etc.).
And these guys are no EA or Ubisoft that have the cash and infrastructure to keep servers up and running for years to come, they're a minuscule studio that struggles to even release looping animations in a timely manner (reminder, the last official release is now 7 months old).
If their MTX scheme doesn't work out, how long are they going to be able to keep paying for the servers to stay on? And what happens when they decide to pull the plug?
It is all about total control and make no mistake it will get even worse, you will never get greed of some under control it takes them apart and they not going to care of their actions and what they create out of it, the way the anime/hentai freaks are getting unclothed here because of their addiction and how it is used against them i never have seen that before.And nor do I understand what the purpose of a Patreon account would be other than for subscription.
If it were just to tally the contributions an individual user has made towards the project, that could be handled differently or just be a one-off when booting the game to have Patreon and Steam share that information.
Also, there's the simple fact that Steam especially, and the Ubisoft store to a lesser degree, is that they offer additional services and benefits (mod database, automated patching, access to walkthrough and guides, forums etc.), while Patreon offers absolutely nothing at all that is useful for the end-user.
The only purpose of the site is to facilitate the sharing of paywalled content with subscribers.
And this game WILL have pay2win (or to be more precise, pay-not-to-grind) purchases (the timer shown in one of the recent videos all but guarantees this), on top of having to buy new costumes, poses, characters, having to pay for the game itself on Steam, and likely for any additional expansions they come up with.
And when they decide to shut down the game you'll lose all of the money invested and there will not be any way to access this content anymore.
Every negative thought you had about those hamster-wheel mobile games you ever had, you can safely direct at this game, because it will live up to them, and likely exceed them.
If you go back all the way to the original Fallen Doll, it was supposed to be a single player porn game, like a brothel management game. Then came Paralogue, which is this bestiality game that I don't think many actually wanted that started as side project if I recall correctly. Before becoming this current monstrosity, with the original game put on indefinite hold. I'm upset that I have stayed as a patron for as long as I have being caught in this bait-and-switch, hoping for more of the original Fallen Doll updates that never came.As soon as the monetization started I really lost interest in this game, first it was a Steam release, then they decided on this online mode, then loot boxes then some investor shows up out of nowhere the whole thing just seems its going to be riddled with scummy tactics to get people to buy cosmetics and stuff like that, I think at some point they lost the vision of what the game was going to be which they stated multiple times a single player RPG, that is the fundamental issue with why games fail is they lose the original vision for the game once the dollars start rolling in and am willing to bet that this game will be a massive flop.
I was gonna contradict you by saying that the game looks so good that just wouldn't happen...but you're actually right...I haven't played it in a while and rather did it to other stuff like harem hotel and true facials...shitI imagine the vast majority of people will boot up the game, rub one out, and then promptly quit, and repeat this as many times as it takes them to look through all the animations and grow bored with them - and then realize there's really nothing else to do but grind like an idiot.
Sorry to say it mate but I think that Fallen Doll has been abandoned, there hasn't been any updates in years, it is safe to say that it won't be finished as the developer is looking to promote online mode and loot boxes in this current game, I would look to invest your money somewhere else, I feel bad for all the money that you lost, his subs are expensive. I only subbed once thank god it was 10 dollars.If you go back all the way to the original Fallen Doll, it was supposed to be a single player porn game, like a brothel management game. Then came Paralogue, which is this bestiality game that I don't think many actually wanted that started as side project if I recall correctly. Before becoming this current monstrosity, with the original game put on indefinite hold. I'm upset that I have stayed as a patron for as long as I have being caught in this bait-and-switch, hoping for more of the original Fallen Doll updates that never came.
Posts are being posted and everything is still being 'updated' no game links have been released for a while is what is happening.Sorry to say it mate but I think that Fallen Doll has been abandoned, there hasn't been any updates in years, it is safe to say that it won't be finished as the developer is looking to promote online mode and loot boxes in this current game, I would look to invest your money somewhere else, I feel bad for all the money that you lost, his subs are expensive. I only subbed once thank god it was 10 dollars.
Oh yeah, I am well aware of that. I think if Paralogue flops, then he will actually go back to work on it and god knows what he will do to it, and what kind of monetization he will do with it.Sorry to say it mate but I think that Fallen Doll has been abandoned, there hasn't been any updates in years, it is safe to say that it won't be finished as the developer is looking to promote online mode and loot boxes in this current game, I would look to invest your money somewhere else, I feel bad for all the money that you lost, his subs are expensive. I only subbed once thank god it was 10 dollars.
There would have to be a new version out for it to be pirated. Wondering if I'm just wasting my money being a patreon given the rumors that you will have to be a patreon to use the online mode. I feel like we're all being setup to be royally fucked as their game isn't good enough to be subscription based.No pirate version out yet? :I
Yes bro just wait it out and see in the future instead of putting money into uncertainty. Your money can be used for something better for sure.There would have to be a new version out for it to be pirated. Wondering if I'm just wasting my money being a patreon given the rumors that you will have to be a patreon to use the online mode. I feel like we're all being setup to be royally fucked as their game isn't good enough to be subscription based.
I mean, look at Wildlife... the animations and sheer volume of animations is far beyond what PH can do and they have zero plans of making people pay monthly for servers that once no longer bring profit will be shut down and we will lose a part of the game we paid for. Got some eromancer vibes from PH they're getting pretty fucking greedy.
For the record, sadly for you it is a big NO, because simple, the game follow online mode which most of the game data will be in the server, thus have almost no data to pirate/crack (like any MMORPG game you play now in the market), also they not even release actual new version yet for us to seeNo pirate version out yet? :I
he was referring to their original game not paraloguePosts are being posted and everything is still being 'updated' no game links have been released for a while is what is happening.
thing is, the wild life devs also charge like $10 a month or whatever just for a few new outfits..as I've heard on their f95 forum pageThere would have to be a new version out for it to be pirated. Wondering if I'm just wasting my money being a patreon given the rumors that you will have to be a patreon to use the online mode. I feel like we're all being setup to be royally fucked as their game isn't good enough to be subscription based.
I mean, look at Wildlife... the animations and sheer volume of animations is far beyond what PH can do and they have zero plans of making people pay monthly for servers that once no longer bring profit will be shut down and we will lose a part of the game we paid for. Got some eromancer vibes from PH they're getting pretty fucking greedy.
This one has me confused, they churn out dozens of animations/add existing animations to other characters each update. There is also currently no plan to require patreons to stay patrons after the game is released. Their animations are also superior to that of PH in terms of models, sound design and overall interaction.he was referring to their original game not paralogue
thing is, the wild life devs also charge like $10 a month or whatever just for a few new outfits..as I've heard on their f95 forum page
Thats the price you pay for getting animations with bestiality and such that arent allowed on any platform I guess.They're setting up to make us continue to pay for a game we've already paid for over months to a year+ of support for the promise of all the content
That's not why they're doing it though. Steam already accepted them after review from all the other patreons understanding based on what they posted. This is a decision they made because some unknown entity asked them to do so in exchange for stuff to make the animations, or so they say.Thats the price you pay for getting animations with bestiality and such that arent allowed on any platform I guess.
What he says does not mean that it is true. Then why do I need a Patreon account, if not for a monthly fee??many do not know it, but I asked them if we should continue to pay each month to play online and the answer is no.
I'll believe them when they deliver a finished product.many do not know it, but I asked them if we should continue to pay each month to play online and the answer is no.
so stop complaining.
Depending on more than 15k people who pay you to create an ambitious game is stressful enough for them than for us.
This right here. They can host their game via steam on their servers, there is zero reason we should need patreon and as it currently stands that is still a requirement until they state otherwise.What he says does not mean that it is true. Then why do I need a Patreon account, if not for a monthly fee??