Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]

[s2insider]

Funny how all the communist managers are now nowhere to be found. Paxis and Kara Melone, who by now would fight the shit out of them to damage control and silent people who complain in Steam community. Hiding in a hole somewhere begging for free money. And it's been over a week and a half right now for their 24 hours maintenance with no update or announcement of a deadline but more of a 24/7 maintenance.

 

[okeynice123]

Funny how all the communist managers are now nowhere to be found. Paxis and Kara Melone, who by now would fight the shit out of them to damage control and silent people who complain in Steam community. Hiding in a hole somewhere begging for free money. And it's been over a week and a half right now for their 24 hours maintenance with no update or announcement of a deadline but more of a 24/7 maintenance.

Not even worth mentioning these ignorants Kara and Pasix

 

[s2insider]

Not even worth mentioning these ignorants Kara and Pasix

But it's gonna be worth it to see them got burn by their own words that they are actually wrong.

 

[eva-unit01]

and yet another deadline set for this weekend that will also be missed for whatever excuse they will come up with.

i'm seriously starting to have way more fun looking at the absolute shitshow this project is than i got playing it last year

 

[chinpoppo]

at this point i don't even bother trying to launch this game, i just check thread for shit and gigles, kek. They spend a year to implement more DRM and then shit the bed with shoe-box servers.
I , frankly, don't get the drm idea, piracy only improves popularity of the title, this site alone has fuck ton of devs posting their games or at least being active in the threads of their games.

 

[eva-unit01]

at this point i don't even bother trying to launch this game, i just check thread for shit and gigles, kek. They spend a year to implement more DRM and then shit the bed with shoe-box servers.
I , frankly, don't get the drm idea, piracy only improves popularity of the title, this site alone has fuck ton of devs posting their games or at least being active in the threads of their games.

Nah they didn't spent a year working on it, if you do some research, you'll quickly see what happened.
If you go through Helius' history on the discord server, you'll see him talk (around july~october)about stuff like AI, skillset......stuff that cleary doesn't fit in the multiplayer thing they're selling.

IMO, this is what happened last year :
They release the multiplayer game mid/late january which is a buggy mess and barely "playable"
They started working on their "rebuild" late february and stopped around june.
Then radio silence about this rebuild (no news, no gameplay footage, screenshots) until late december when people started to get mad at Helius who resumed the developpement (and looking at the state this rebuild was at release 13 months after its announcement, yeah this was totally rushed)

What happened during those 6 months is that Helius, instead of working on the damn update, put everything on standby to start developping the "solo rogue-lite deck building tactical rpg" he's been talking about 2 years ago. Some proof of that is the flood of concept art stuff + news about skillsets/skill icon we got instead of rebuild footage.

Unlike what their moderators say, the issue isn't about Helius' perfectionnism or anything like that
The issue is that the guy just doesn't care about what he's making and people seem ok with that because he still have 15k+ subs on Patreon

 

[okeynice123]

But it's gonna be worth it to see them got burn by their own words that they are actually wrong.

for sure

 

[benisfug]

Funny how all the communist managers are now nowhere to be found. Paxis and Kara Melone, who by now would fight the shit out of them to damage control and silent people who complain in Steam community. Hiding in a hole somewhere begging for free money. And it's been over a week and a half right now for their 24 hours maintenance with no update or announcement of a deadline but more of a 24/7 maintenance.

I'm sure in a few months they'll come back to the Steam community to nuke the entire thing again.

 

[MaestreOfChaos]

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What happened during those 6 months is that Helius, instead of working on the damn update, put everything on standby to start developping the "solo rogue-lite deck building tactical rpg" -

Bold of you to assume he's worked in anything at all.
They have always dished random concept art, proof that they're still a group of shady chinese modders/translators at their core.

I've also spent more time straight up laffin' in this thread than fapping to alet... just when you think we're beating a dead horse, something even more outrageous happens, look at their week long downtime lol. It's almost like F95 is the endgame for FD/Paralogue/Op Lovecraft.

 

[Nihil5320]

Nah they didn't spent a year working on it, if you do some research, you'll quickly see what happened.
If you go through Helius' history on the discord server, you'll see him talk (around july~october)about stuff like AI, skillset......stuff that cleary doesn't fit in the multiplayer thing they're selling.

IMO, this is what happened last year :
They release the multiplayer game mid/late january which is a buggy mess and barely "playable"
They started working on their "rebuild" late february and stopped around june.
Then radio silence about this rebuild (no news, no gameplay footage, screenshots) until late december when people started to get mad at Helius who resumed the developpement (and looking at the state this rebuild was at release 13 months after its announcement, yeah this was totally rushed)

What happened during those 6 months is that Helius, instead of working on the damn update, put everything on standby to start developping the "solo rogue-lite deck building tactical rpg" he's been talking about 2 years ago. Some proof of that is the flood of concept art stuff + news about skillsets/skill icon we got instead of rebuild footage.

Unlike what their moderators say, the issue isn't about Helius' perfectionnism or anything like that
The issue is that the guy just doesn't care about what he's making and people seem ok with that because he still have 15k+ subs on Patreon

Would you happen to have those quotes about skills/AI to hand?

I'd be shocked if Helius really has been working on single player of any kind given how they've started removing tags like

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from the store, they've also been quoted saying the SFW spin off is dead as no one wanted it. The below is from Pasix but there are other quotes from Helius on this:

Helius has - a while back, already - redecided on splitting a SFW campaign from harem mode, in favour of your apprehension to it. We've been shown some concept videos, and we're looking at a NSFW campaign again, possibly integrated with harem mode.

I believe they also originally made some claims about outsourcing this? It's hard to keep track though.

Anyway given that they were working on single player in various forms for so long without ever really showing anything I genuinely just think it's beyond them. Which seems like a fair bet given what their battlepass design looks like. I imagine any gameplay loop designed by these guys would be a Kafkaesque monstrosity, if they could even get it working in the first place.

Unless it comes hand in hand with rock solid and tangible evidence I'd personally assume anything Helius shows off or talks about is complete bullshit designed to try and keep the Patreon going.

 

[eva-unit01]

Would you happen to have those quotes about skills/AI to hand?

I'd be shocked if Helius really has been working on single player of any kind given how they've started removing tags like

You must be registered to see the links

or

You must be registered to see the links

from the store, they've also been quoted saying the SFW spin off is dead as no one wanted it. The below is from Pasix but there are other quotes from Helius on this:



I believe they also originally made some claims about outsourcing this? It's hard to keep track though.

Anyway given that they were working on single player in various forms for so long without ever really showing anything I genuinely just think it's beyond them. Which seems like a fair bet given what their battlepass design looks like. I imagine any gameplay loop designed by these guys would be a Kafkaesque monstrosity, if they could even get it working in the first place.

Unless it comes hand in hand with rock solid and tangible evidence I'd personally assume anything Helius shows off or talks about is complete bullshit designed to try and keep the Patreon going.

Sure, here you go, and there more of it




There's even freakin' GDocs explaining them

 

[grunt_pepper]

That's literally nothing. I could come up with all those word salads in an afternoon.

Where's actual, tangible proof of them working on the singleplayer portion?

And by tangible, I mean actual footage of the gameplay.

 

[s2insider]

That's just useless Microsoft Word file that you could write in 5 minutes or copy and paste from some other games. It's still a bullshit until some in game image or combat pose to see.

 

[MaestreOfChaos]

Sure, here you go, and there more of it
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I remember those, but considering Scamlius record, I remained skeptical until actual footage would be shown (none was).

Those lists are more like the stuff planned to work on. Sure, thats part of the work, but just the starting point.

 

[pinosante]

There was an update? What is updated? Can anyone fill me in?

 

[Nyxcro]

There was an update? What is updated? Can anyone fill me in?

Harem mode is updated, now you cant play it at all.

 

[VengefulKron]

Nah they didn't spent a year working on it, if you do some research, you'll quickly see what happened.
If you go through Helius' history on the discord server, you'll see him talk (around july~october)about stuff like AI, skillset......stuff that cleary doesn't fit in the multiplayer thing they're selling.

IMO, this is what happened last year :
They release the multiplayer game mid/late january which is a buggy mess and barely "playable"
They started working on their "rebuild" late february and stopped around june.
Then radio silence about this rebuild (no news, no gameplay footage, screenshots) until late december when people started to get mad at Helius who resumed the developpement (and looking at the state this rebuild was at release 13 months after its announcement, yeah this was totally rushed)

What happened during those 6 months is that Helius, instead of working on the damn update, put everything on standby to start developping the "solo rogue-lite deck building tactical rpg" he's been talking about 2 years ago. Some proof of that is the flood of concept art stuff + news about skillsets/skill icon we got instead of rebuild footage.

Unlike what their moderators say, the issue isn't about Helius' perfectionnism or anything like that
The issue is that the guy just doesn't care about what he's making and people seem ok with that because he still have 15k+ subs on Patreon

I think by "perfectionism", they mean that Helius legit has an aversion to optimization. I remember a while back Helius said that he wasn't going to add any LOD meshes, because they look bad. Like... bruh, there's a reason LOD meshes are needed, you can't just not include them because they "look bad". I knew the moment he said that, harem mode was going to run like shit.

That same line of thinking is probably why the harem mode manages texture memory so poorly. Helius probably has every single character model using 8k textures no matter how far they are from the camera.

I have the game on Steam, but I haven't even bothered trying the update, considering they're apparently still having server issues (with less than 500 players), haven't improved performance by any meaningful amount, and implemented invasive new DRM. I don't have a problem with Denuvo on AAA titles, but considering how shady Helius is, that new Denuvo protection could be hiding something malicious in the executable. I ain't risking that.

 

[jackhammer320]

But why is this game multiplayer? Why make it weird? Is this a personal information theft scam?

 

[eva-unit01]

But why is this game multiplayer? Why make it weird? Is this a personal information theft scam?

It's multiplayer because they don't want filthy pirates playing their game for free

Yes it is weird knowing that there will be some guys fapping to the game while looking what you're doing

And it is probably already a patreon scam to milk money anyways, info theft would be the cherry on the cake

 

[Nihil5320]

And it is probably already a patreon scam to milk money anyways, info theft would be the cherry on the cake

I assumed it was an outright scam for a while but Helius paying for Denuvo suggests otherwise, that is not cheap (or popular with gamers) so he really seems to think he has something worth dumping $10-25k per month into protecting. Similarly the online only requirement doesn't seem like the sort of thing you'd do if it was a pure Patreon scam where they conduct the bare minimum work and pander to subscribers to keep the money coming in.

I suppose the one caveat to that is that he may have convinced Denuvo not to charge until the game is "released," which would be in line with their standard terms:

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If he never actually plans on releasing the game on Steam then perhaps it's all just a charade, but I think that explanation is hellishly convoluted.

The simpler explanation by far is that he's just an idiot that lied about his experience when starting the project and is essentially trying to put a full game together with a team of modders with no chain of command and nobody with any project management experience to take the reins. That would explain why they flip flop all over the place in terms of scope and direction, do alright with assets and animations but can't implement any even moderately complicated gameplay system or design ux worth a damn etc.

Hilarious project either way though. Almost worth the $36 just to watch it unravel in slow motion over the years.